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At 1/20/13 02:15 AM, DavidOrr wrote:

At 1/20/13 02:09 AM, Chemich wrote: Actually that's the way you're supposed to do it, I don't because I'm lazy as shit and know a million ways to get around my faults (mastering wise.)

According to who, exactly?

According to most industry standard professionals actually, but honestly the way they do things is already prepped for all of that. But honestly producers and composers have grown since of what I'm referring to, so honestly it doesn't -actually- matter as long as the finished product sounds to par.

Sad really, but it allows me more time to play Dark Souls at least?

Though it makes me miss the times when being a producer / composer was obscure and you'd have to go to college for it, nowadays you can go to college for it and still be out of a job. Good thing I never fell for that ridiculous scam...

At 1/20/13 02:49 AM, DavidOrr wrote:

At 1/20/13 02:22 AM, Chemich wrote:

According to most industry standard professionals actually, but honestly the way they do things is already prepped for all of that. But honestly producers and composers have grown since of what I'm referring to, so honestly it doesn't -actually- matter as long as the finished product sounds to par.

I've never heard or read that, but I'll take your word for it!

Well you won't really read anything about it, but if you go to most studio's you can basically just ask the guy in charge how things work. Sadly no one in charge of a studio does anything like I do, but I've heard similar things to as you do so I assume it'd be "industry standard etiquette."

Though it makes me miss the times when being a producer / composer was obscure and you'd have to go to college for it, nowadays you can go to college for it and still be out of a job. Good thing I never fell for that ridiculous scam...

There is some truth to this, but only if your dead-set on struggling to make it as a producer doing gigs and self-promoting. Of course, while you're doing this, you're most likely working a part-time/full-time low-wage hourly job somewhere that saps your time and energy, providing resistance as you pursue your dreams. It's definitely doable, but very difficult. Having a college degree (or higher) opens up MANY options for teaching and research, which is extremely helpful as you build your career (I know from experience). Not only that, but you're constantly growing as both a musician and teacher as you work. The pay is much better -- all the music schools I'm familiar with will pay at least $30/hr). That's not to even mention the knowledge, experience, and connections you gain during your years earning your degree.

I know it's popular to bash degrees, but college can be looked at as insurance -- if you don't make it as a performing artist, at least you have a decent option to fall back on that involves your skills in music. There are private music schools across the country who constantly have openings pop up (especially in voice and piano instruction), and ANY bachelors or associates will open doors to jobs outside the field that pay more than $8/hr if you're patient. Without a degree, you put yourself in a do-or-die situation, with high risks and not a whole lot of attractive options should you not make it.

Ack -- sorry for hijacking this thread!

To be honest I really dislike people so I'd never look at teaching as an option, nor would I ever -want- to teach. Personally I feel American education is EXTREMELY limiting and the curriculum is outdated and irrelevant to today's world. But being honest I learned all the skills of most college professionals, and by most I mean the things that matter (when it comes to making my own music.)

Also don't worry about hijacking threads here, I'm sure the mods appreciate any activity this forum gets. Unless if it's spam, or something that would relate to trolling.

At 1/20/13 07:34 AM, Buoy wrote:

At 1/20/13 02:53 AM, Chemich wrote: To be honest I really dislike people so

might want to work on that

Let me know when people stop being ignorant; or idiots in general, then maybe I'll consider doing so.

At 1/20/13 05:27 AM, Step wrote: Like Chemich I organise my project files like a madman with a bad case of OCD. I have a strict and consistent colour-coding scheme. Every instrument, their corresponding rows in the playlist, their volume automation clips and their FX channels are all colour-coded properly, and with a little symbol to go with it. The darker the colour, the larger the instrument is.

Here's a preview of one of my project files.

Pretty much mine are the same except I always have the automation run the full course (except during the drop / downlift of the song, for some reason I always end it on beat.)

I'll show an example when I'm less woken up, and more in the mood for printscreening.

At 1/20/13 09:19 AM, Buoy wrote:

At 1/20/13 09:00 AM, Chemich wrote:

At 1/20/13 07:34 AM, Buoy wrote:

At 1/20/13 02:53 AM, Chemich wrote: To be honest I really dislike people so

might want to work on that

Let me know when people stop being ignorant; or idiots in general, then maybe I'll consider doing so.

you just sound like a dick

You sound like the type of person I'm talking about, however thanks for your input.

At 1/20/13 10:46 AM, Chemich wrote:

At 1/20/13 09:19 AM, Buoy wrote:

At 1/20/13 09:00 AM, Chemich wrote:

At 1/20/13 07:34 AM, Buoy wrote:

At 1/20/13 02:53 AM, Chemich wrote: To be honest I really dislike people so

might want to work on that

Let me know when people stop being ignorant; or idiots in general, then maybe I'll consider doing so.

you just sound like a dick

You sound like the type of person I'm talking about, however thanks for your input.

Okay. I'm going to have to say here - Chemich, you *are* acting like one.

That said, a lot of people are ignorant of various things and/or are socially inept. However - not all of them are, and you can't know who is or isn't until you actually bother to communicate with them. Having a baseline of "I dislike you because you're a person" (as you appear to be saying by the "I really dislike people" comment) is being somewhat ignorant yourself, and quite a pretentious arsehole.

Back on the topic of the thread, I work for hours on transitions and rarely accept anything less than perfect... I also have named projects various random names such as "Flipith", "Goldberg", and "GO!". All of these had absolutely nothing to do with the title.

Well I flat out suck so I use LMMS. So therefore the tripleocellator is like my child .

I have this weird habit of cross tracking notes in tracker, perhaps just a habit left out after years squeezing on 3-4 channels mod tracking. One time a friend asked me to help him re master his song, I spent a whole day just to re arrange all the note and reduce 18 channels down to 10!

I like to backup strings with brass in orchestra music even a lot of time it's unnecessary.

At 1/19/13 10:27 PM, ChainsawPolice wrote:

At 1/19/13 10:14 PM, Quarl wrote: I don't actually write music anymore. I just delete all the midi from old projects then hit random buttons until I get dubstep.

Oh look, a dubstep-is-terrible joke. Newgrounds hasn't got enough of those.

dude it's quarl, it's not even a joke :v

UMM i dont really have weird workflow habits in FL (okay maybe i do)

cbf naming/colouring anything - not patterns, instruments, tracks, channels, effects etc.

i also don't group channels or name recordings (i think i was up to untitled_Insert 1_300.wav before my hdd failed)

i don't have many good modern sample packs so i spend ages making my own out of shitty/old samples

i still sidechain with the peak controller

the default fruity compressor is probably my most commonly used effect

until recently i fucking hated automation clips and always used automation events (still do for recorded automation and some other things)

when i do make an automation clip i just let it stay where it lands on the playlist unless i need to move it or dupe it

recently i tend to just use samples for almost everything and very rarely use vst instruments and when i do i end up making songs with just the one shitty plugin for all the sounds

I obsessively use harps in every single song.

At 1/19/13 10:31 PM, AJtheRipper wrote: |--
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I always play this when starting out a song and I have to force myself to not.

Is that guitar tab?

At 1/20/13 02:06 AM, DavidOrr wrote: I frequently transpose my entire tracks as I'm writing them. I don't know anyone else who does this, but I find it gives me a fresh perspective on the music and helps me pick out balance issues. It can sometimes cause issues with samples if I've carefully mapped various CC's, as well as push the natural ranges of instruments, but the trade off is worth it. In the end, sometimes I'll go back to the original key, and other times I'll stick with the new key!

I do that too! It always adds some cool flair to it, I find.

At 1/21/13 09:54 AM, midimachine wrote: until recently i fucking hated automation clips and always used automation events (still do for recorded automation and some other things)

UGH, events are so hard to keep track of. I always use events. Regardless. But that's just me.
The last time I used events was when I was 13 and making awful excuses for "dubstep".

At 1/21/13 11:43 AM, Buoy wrote:

At 1/21/13 11:35 AM, sweet21 wrote: I ask my cat 'Do you think this sounds good?'
It never answers.

just have a professional fix your cat and this shouldn't be a problem

Compress dat

At 1/19/13 02:41 PM, sorohanro wrote: To my wife despair, I put a glockenspiel or a celesta in almost all projects.

Glockenspiel is a fun word to say.

Sometimes I set my project tempo to 180bpm and insert a hardcore distorted gabber drum. Pretend im dutch for 10 seconds then exit without saving.

At 1/21/13 09:54 AM, midimachine wrote: until recently i fucking hated automation clips and always used automation events (still do for recorded automation and some other things)

UGH, events are so hard to keep track of. I always use events. Regardless. But that's just me.
The last time I used events was when I was 13 and making awful excuses for "dubstep".