At 1/18/13 12:45 PM, Fim wrote:
The majority of kids are not at risk at all. 77 million kids went to school on that day at Sandy Hooky. Quit trying to sound like you're a struggling martyr here who's being oppressed by government. It's not about being hypocritical here, it's about who is logically more at risk than somebody else, it's pretty obvious.
I smell a zombie.. that you? I never mentioned anything about being a martyr. I also never mentioned anything about Obama or his children not needing protection.
What is bullshit about what he's proposing? All that Obama is trying to implement is a very sensible set of measures for a real problem people face. Please tell me what you've got a problem with.
so... kids are safe in school and there's no problem, but we gotta ban 'assault weapons' to protect kids in school because they're not safe, which is a problem. got it.
his 'measures' don't do a lick of good to protect anyone. his 'measures' are feel good in nature, intended to boost his approval rating and make it look like he actually did something.
Gun control isn't going to stop deranged nuts from killing people. the kids at sandy hook were LUCKY he used a gun and not, say, pipe bombs. a fist full of pipe bombs could leave several rooms full of dead children in a very short amount of time.
once we ban guns, we may very well find nuts making and using bombs to attack others. easy to make too. I've constructed a couple myself, just to get an idea on how powerful they can be. a pipe bomb could easily render a classroom full of students dead and dying within moments. wouldn't even have to aim it. just light the bomb, open the door, toss it towards the center of the room, shut the door and duck. boom. dead people.
then what? you gonna ban metal pipe?
Are you saying you DON'T want proper checks done on people buying firearms? What grounds to you have to oppose that? It's completely reasonable so you don't sell guns to people with criminal records. The other proposals are perfecting reasonable to, people who sell guns illegal should be brought to justice, and nobody can justify owning an assault weapon for self defense.
the more pressing question is, what grounds does the government have TO do background checks? regardless, i do support background checks on people buying guns. Of course, I also support people's mental health being part of that background check. but that wouldn't have stopped the sandy hook incident either, given his mother didn't have mental disorders.
also, you say no one can justify.. whatever. i don't HAVE to justify anything to anyone. the government's insistence on banning 'assault weapons' as been stated multiple times, if is a blindfold they pull over the eyes of the mindless sheep to conceal the REAL problem, which is the breakdown of society. things that were once virtues are being demonized, things like self control, temperance, and honesty. these things are being replaced with things like hedonism arrogance and the insatiable need for drama. there is no impetus for being a hard worker, or to apply yourself in order to better yourself. drug addiction runs rampant and the media glorifies everything wrong with the country, like teen pregnancy, drug addiction and various other vices, as well as criminal activities.
you can ban anything you want, won't help. look at how well the government's ban on narcotics is going. you think criminals can't get weapons? think again. long as society remains the way it is, the school killings will continue.
You mean that just because there are people who disagree with your personal views, that they are automatically buying propaganda? I guess your alternative is that you just do nothing and ignore the homicides and school shootings.
but schools are safe, remember? you said it yourself. there is no risk. you said it yourself.
buying propaganda is when someone tells you a half truth or a blatant lie for political reasons and you buy in to it. Kinda like the way you're doing now. banning assault weapons won't stop homicides. banning all weapons won't stop homicides. the only way to stop homicide is to change society. problem is, government likes society the way it is. blind, stupid, and violent.
Oh boo hoo. You massive twat.
personal attack eh? that's ok, keep the blindfold on. it suits you. Sometimes fiction is indeed better than reality.