Be a Supporter!

Why I Raise My Children Without God

  • 3,647 Views
  • 80 Replies
New Topic Respond to this Topic
Chdonga
Chdonga
  • Member since: Mar. 24, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 55
Game Developer
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 18:23:17 Reply

At 1/19/13 03:13 PM, Jmayer20 wrote: Did you even read my opening post? Because if you did then you should know that this is not about my children. In fact I don't even have children...

I was more replying to to everyone ITT who mentioned how they will raise their children.

Nor
Nor
  • Member since: Mar. 4, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 11
Reader
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 18:26:18 Reply

At 1/17/13 07:56 PM, HikarutheHedgehog wrote: Gotta love all the assholes in this thread who think that their opinion of whether God exists or not is fact instead of an opinion like it really is.

This.
You should not state anything as fact, because their will be arguments.
Also this lady just wants attention.


私のちんちん

BBS Signature
BumFodder
BumFodder
  • Member since: Jan. 14, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 40
Melancholy
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 18:26:49 Reply

At 1/19/13 12:03 AM, abbiegale wrote: Actually, it is a matter of religious consciousness; whether at some point in your life you seriously questioned all you have been taught and have believed about your religion (or lack of it), regardless of what conclusion you have come to. Being religious doesn't automatically mean that you swallow everything you're told undisputedly, and being an atheist isn't immediately equal to having a critical mind.

Thats pretty much what I typed, what was the point of replying to me saying the same thing?

Kwing
Kwing
  • Member since: Jul. 24, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 47
Game Developer
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 20:27:32 Reply

My mom, despite having a very strange and motley patchwork of beliefs (Spiritualist, Buddhist, Christian Science) and working as a singer in churches and temples of all sects, decided to send me to a Lutheran school until I was in 6th grade, when I transferred to a public education system.

Her logic was that many people brought up without religion are oftentimes susceptible to being the most dogmatic religious people if the idea of religion is introduced to them at a later age. So rather than planning for me to be Christian my whole life, I was sent to a private school in order to be desensitized to biblical teachings (although my mother never said anything cynical about Christianity until I was much older).

In some ways I see her logic. It's important for people to know about religion and different influences, so that they have some understanding of how communities, religious, social, or political, function before they're old enough to make their own choices. Helping children perceive the world around them, including the biased information thrown at us, is important to building good judgment.

Certainly there's nothing wrong with raising children to be atheists or agnostic. Certainly there should be no uprising against this woman for having decided not to pass down religion to her children.


If I offer to help you in a post, PM me to get it. I often forget to revisit threads.
Want 180+ free PSP games? Try these links! - Flash - Homebrew (OFW)

JBK
JBK
  • Member since: Jun. 15, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 24
Gamer
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 20:30:44 Reply

At 1/19/13 06:42 PM, abbiegale wrote:
At 1/19/13 06:26 PM, BumFodder wrote:
This gives me the impression that you think atheists tend to be smarter. I just don't agree with this.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you meant.

You're not very atheist are you.


"you hate gays, believe in god, and dislike my posts, I still think you're cool"-FurryFox
"TarahlovesJBKscawk"-Tarah, "Those (under)pants are just adorable"-Gagsy
Last.fm

BBS Signature
Suprememessage
Suprememessage
  • Member since: Dec. 29, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 22
Gamer
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 21:51:47 Reply

At 1/19/13 04:24 AM, zmatt007 wrote:
Nano technology is supposed to be futuristic, yet he easily figured out how to do it. To be honest I knew most of these things as a child to. Everytime he discovered something, as soon as he explained it no one could understand it not even the teacher. Though to me it seemed simple to.

I'm not implying that religious people are stupid, in my early years I was religious. I'm merely saying that religion would take time away from my children studying or doing other productive things.


Ecchi first, ask questions never.

BBS Signature
Jmayer20
Jmayer20
  • Member since: Jul. 3, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 01
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-19 21:57:53 Reply

At 1/19/13 03:24 PM, Thecrazyman wrote: One thing I'll say about this, people choose paths and have the right to choose for good or for ill, my personal side to this is that I hope they grow for good but if any decide to lead any ill path should there be no way to persuade them away from it then so be it for if they refuse to learn the lesson the easy way they'll learn the lesson the hard way.

Are you saying that if you had a son and you caught him trying to rape a girl, you would just let him because it was his choice and he will burn in hell later? You wouldn't try to stop him? You would just wait until he was done and then punish him.

Jewelz123
Jewelz123
  • Member since: Apr. 20, 2007
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 16
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-21 13:51:37 Reply

Tbh, other than the Earth, I don't see why people would pray to something or some sort of out of the world creator. Even if there is some shit like that out there, the obvious, more important one is planet Earth and your parents / ancestors. They created us right? So why pray to some hebbee jeebie guy high up in no mans land :S

Ononymous
Ononymous
  • Member since: Nov. 4, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-21 14:05:50 Reply

As an atheist, I will raise my children to think for themselves and explore all the evidence for and against religion.

It's not my job to tell them what they should or should not believe in.

PrincessLuna
PrincessLuna
  • Member since: Oct. 7, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 08
Reader
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 08:20:47 Reply

I plan to educate my children and not brainwash them with mythology.

chiefindomer
chiefindomer
  • Member since: Sep. 1, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 33
Gamer
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 09:56:41 Reply

At 1/22/13 08:33 AM, spiderman006 wrote:
At 1/22/13 08:20 AM, PrincessLuna wrote: I plan to educate my children and not brainwash them with mythology.
By brainwashing them with another form of 'mythology.'

What's this other form of mythology?


.

BBS Signature
KatMaestro
KatMaestro
  • Member since: Dec. 9, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 10:00:07 Reply

At 1/22/13 08:33 AM, spiderman006 wrote:
At 1/22/13 08:20 AM, PrincessLuna wrote: I plan to educate my children and not brainwash them with mythology.
By brainwashing them with another form of 'mythology.'

Either way, the mind will be conditioned.

Let's say, this 'mythology' is full of proven facts. Therefore it's no long mythology.

chiefindomer
chiefindomer
  • Member since: Sep. 1, 2004
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 33
Gamer
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 10:07:04 Reply

At 1/22/13 09:57 AM, spiderman006 wrote: Oh God, anyone but you.

Wow, good explanation.


.

BBS Signature
KatMaestro
KatMaestro
  • Member since: Dec. 9, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 10:15:09 Reply

At 1/22/13 10:05 AM, spiderman006 wrote:

That's the mistake you atheists make, you're blindly believing a theory just like the Christians. There are no proven facts at all. There is nothing scientific about it.

I would like to do an experiment, since you are so blindly believing in your cartoony deity:

Let's me push you off 10 floors buildingâEUTMs roof to redefine gravity. If you will be alive, I take the blame. If you are gonna dead, science wins.

Shall we begin?

KatMaestro
KatMaestro
  • Member since: Dec. 9, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 10:35:29 Reply

At 1/22/13 10:20 AM, spiderman006 wrote:
Really, you guys should just quit while you're ahead. Your google pasta just don't cut it anymore. Take the time to study what you are actually trying to debate, before doing it instead of just googling a tutorial on how to win an athiest debate.

They both require faith.

Your Engrish is even worse than mine, God-fag-lover. That's complete came from my mind. Did you even try to google to verify it? No you didn't. See, try to debate facts to defend flaws is always a failure.

I don't need to study how a 10 floor's rooftop jump look like because anyone has common sense will know how shit is gonna turn out. Faith won't protect you in this case.

Again, shall you demonstrate your faith?

XwaynecoltX
XwaynecoltX
  • Member since: Jan. 17, 2001
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 54
Movie Buff
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 10:44:38 Reply

Ohboy another one of these crazies

@ the Crazy lady
As long as you dont do the research and study it yourself you will never really understand, now if you chose not to believe thats your own right, but do the research first beforegoing half cocked.

372
372
  • Member since: Jul. 29, 2009
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Artist
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 10:50:47 Reply

At 1/22/13 10:05 AM, spiderman006 wrote:
That's the mistake you atheists make, you're blindly believing a theory just like the Christians. There are no proven facts at all. There is nothing scientific about it.

Waho waho waho dubstep guy, atheism is usually cause by people using the scientific method. They observe the history of religion, observe it's ways, it's teachings, it's flaws, then then observe modern cosmology and modern biology then by themselves come to the conclusion that it is not in any way the word of an all knowing entity that created the universe.

Because he would know the earth isn't 6000 years old LOL
KatMaestro
KatMaestro
  • Member since: Dec. 9, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 11:06:42 Reply

At 1/22/13 11:01 AM, spiderman006 wrote:
Based on radio carbon dating which is not accurate, even if it is, doesn't prove life macro evolved.

Kill me if you know what is carbon dating. How idiotic are you? There is more than one radiometric dating way. Hell you don't even know how people verify facts in science.

KatMaestro
KatMaestro
  • Member since: Dec. 9, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 10
Blank Slate
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 11:24:00 Reply

At 1/22/13 11:11 AM, spiderman006 wrote:
stuff

Didn't I say there is more than a way to skin the cat? Still defending a fallen tower?

Viper
Viper
  • Member since: Jun. 18, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 46
Musician
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 11:47:01 Reply

Will the people above me PLEASE shut up?
I come on Newgrounds to have fun. Not to see fucking religious flame wars -_-


Formally known as Viper50
When you get into one of these groups theres only a couple of ways you can get out. One is death. The other is mental institution.
Last.fm Youtube

BBS Signature
PrincessLuna
PrincessLuna
  • Member since: Oct. 7, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 08
Reader
Response to Why I Raise My Children Without God 2013-01-22 13:34:26 Reply

At 1/22/13 10:05 AM, spiderman006 wrote: That's the mistake you atheists make, you're blindly believing a theory just like the Christians. There are no proven facts at all. There is nothing scientific about it.

The issue here is that you reduce the scientific method via relatism, and try to "balance" the scales to put your own insecurities at ease. The argument in itself is a fallacy as it simply argues from incredulity that the scientific method is on par with blind faith. Your philosophy is weak and pedantic my friend.