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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 00:46:08 Reply

At 1/18/13 12:32 AM, Xenomit wrote:
At 1/18/13 12:27 AM, captainlolz wrote: a example of notation,you have no idea what your talking about
Yes, those are all notes. Each note sounds unique. A C sounds like a C, no matter what, and an A flat sounds like an A flat,

you moron there are are multiple Abs aka A#s you have no idea what your talking about


if it is a gigantic horrible typo mah bad

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 00:47:29 Reply

At 1/18/13 12:46 AM, captainlolz wrote:
At 1/18/13 12:32 AM, Xenomit wrote:
At 1/18/13 12:27 AM, captainlolz wrote: a example of notation,you have no idea what your talking about
Yes, those are all notes. Each note sounds unique. A C sounds like a C, no matter what, and an A flat sounds like an A flat,

meant B#s


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 00:50:08 Reply

At 1/18/13 12:47 AM, captainlolz wrote:
At 1/18/13 12:46 AM, captainlolz wrote:
a example of notation,you have no idea what your talking about
Yes, those are all notes. Each note sounds unique. A C sounds like a C, no matter what, and an A flat sounds like an A flat,
meant B#s

So what exactly is the problem here? You can't enjoy electronic music?

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 00:54:58 Reply

So, it's not music because they don't write it down on sheets.

brilliant.


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 01:00:16 Reply

At 1/18/13 12:53 AM, Xenomit wrote:
Yes, those are all notes. Each note sounds unique. A C sounds like a C, no matter what, and an A flat sounds like an A flat,

those are your words not mine i was simpily refuting that moron


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 01:04:18 Reply

At 1/17/13 02:26 PM, ZyklonB wrote: If you even knew a small amount about music or bothered to pick up an instrument you would realize that electronic music is only similar in the way that its a frequency...I listen to everything and literally every fucking type of music that stimulates my brain which music is supposed to do BUT electronic music is heavily borrowed from everything and it doesn't have much creativity or "soul" in it. For someone that claims to stand for your music, I'm surprised you haven't found or realized that electronic music does follow a strict set of frequencies and beats.

Shame the fuck on you mod, do your research, and not ones that support your illogical opinion, which is what this is...opinion

I see what you are saying...but

>2013
>implying all music isn't/wasn't heavily borrowed.
>what you define/interpret as "soul" is subjective
>implying electronic musicians never use MIDI instruments
>not realizing electronic music and acoustic music "borrows" in different ways

If an artist creates the exact same painting twice, first using a paintbrush and watercolors, then second time using mouse clicks and photoshop, does one painting have more soul than the other?

At 1/17/13 11:52 PM, captainlolz wrote:
At 1/17/13 11:47 PM, hiddeninthecrowd wrote:
At 1/17/13 11:41 PM, captainlolz wrote: butthurt electronic "music" "producer"
teach me to be good at debating like you!! is it the scare quotes or the ad hominem that'll make me the best?
this isn't a debate,this thread topic is opinion based "electronic music sounds the same". but electronics music really doesn't use notation ergo music theory

I'm 99% chance you are trolling, but in the %1 chance you really are that ignorant, and just for the sake of taking the bait, what you say is wrong on several levels.

Notation =/= music, sound is music. Notation is not sound, it is a way of visually dictating sound.

saying you need to use traditional sheet music to explain/communicate music theory is about as intelligent as saying you need to know japanese to explain/communicate mathematics. Two different languages that are equally capable of communicating the same ideas. Piano rolls have been in use since the late 19th century, they can communicate anything sheet music can do, I dare you to prove me wrong.

"bleeps and bloops" have frequency, volume, and occur in a certain time and therefore they can be successfully dictated through both sheet music and piano roll/midi notation. Please, feel free to state otherwise though.

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 01:05:45 Reply

Confirmation bias is the tendency for people to only seek out information that conforms to their pre-existing view points, and subsequently ignore information that goes against them.

i am done with this crappy little thread


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 01:08:23 Reply

At 1/18/13 12:56 AM, Xenomit wrote:
At 1/18/13 12:54 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: So, it's not music because they don't write it down on sheets.

brilliant.
That's his logic as of right now

seriously. Following that logic, lots of great music doesn't qualify as real music.


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 02:17:16 Reply

My favorite is when people say "any one can make a beat like Skrillex" (or any big electronic producer for that matter.) "It's just a bunch of robot noises." The have no fucking idea how complex the production is on his song and how hard it is to get those "robot" sounds just perfect and hyphy.

in no way do I like Skrillex or dubstep, but the amount of work that goes into producing it is waaaay overlooked.
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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 02:46:11 Reply

At 1/18/13 01:04 AM, S3C wrote:
At 1/17/13 02:26 PM, ZyklonB wrote:
Snip

I'm making a group called "I love S3C," anyone wanna join?


taking the internet seriously is the biggest sin one could commit on a forum.

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 03:08:39 Reply

Being honest, and much of what I love IS Electronic, the idea that it's not music is understandable. When you look back to Musique Concrete, it was pretty much challenging what can or can't be construed as music, pretty much like Duchamp's readymades. Looking at the work of the Russolos, we see this too, literally Noise music.

Of course, now we can take the principles of Musique Concrete and make much more melodic pieces with them. Hoccicio blurred the line quite well, with that album made by their sounds of, uh, togetherness.


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 09:53:57 Reply

POST 100! I AM THE MASTER COMMANDER!

Also, electronic music is awesome, people who say it sounds the same should listen more closely, and if they still don't like it, then don't hate it just because other people like it. Also don't hate those people either.

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 09:56:22 Reply

At 1/18/13 09:53 AM, SeekerFang17 wrote: POST 100! I AM THE MASTER COMMANDER!

Also, electronic music is awesome, people who say it sounds the same should listen more closely, and if they still don't like it, then don't hate it just because other people like it. Also don't hate those people either.

Forgot to switch accounts?

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 11:19:53 Reply

At 1/18/13 09:56 AM, TheColourAwesome wrote:
Forgot to switch accounts?

What? No, I just wanted to be the 100th post on this thread. Also I do enjoy electronic music, I don't see why you would think I would be trolling/not being serious and would need to switch accounts. Why do you ask that? Is it because you have two accounts?

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 11:21:58 Reply

At 1/18/13 11:19 AM, SeekerFang17 wrote:
At 1/18/13 09:56 AM, TheColourAwesome wrote:
Forgot to switch accounts?
What? No, I just wanted to be the 100th post on this thread. Also I do enjoy electronic music, I don't see why you would think I would be trolling/not being serious and would need to switch accounts. Why do you ask that? Is it because you have two accounts?

lol. I thought you had 99 posts do your other account. Stop assuming the worst.

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 11:22:47 Reply

At 1/18/13 12:22 AM, captainlolz wrote:
i have never a electronic "music" "producer" use notation

this is not notation

But it still bases on musical rules. How idiotic are you?

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 11:23:04 Reply

At 1/18/13 11:21 AM, TheColourAwesome wrote:
lol. I thought you had 99 posts do your other account. Stop assuming the worst.

Oh, sorry, just a bit paranoid.

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 11:33:10 Reply

At 1/18/13 11:23 AM, SeekerFang17 wrote:
At 1/18/13 11:21 AM, TheColourAwesome wrote:
lol. I thought you had 99 posts do your other account. Stop assuming the worst.
Oh, sorry, just a bit paranoid.

Yeah, you never really catch on to sarcasm until around the 1,000 post mark.

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 11:56:22 Reply

At 1/18/13 11:22 AM, Elitistinen wrote: But it still bases on musical rules. How idiotic are you?

which came first, music or music rules?

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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 18:47:32 Reply

At 1/18/13 11:56 AM, amplefied wrote: which came first, music or music rules?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnwOE_44D9M


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 18:52:13 Reply

Thats bull. Devo and Suicide sound entirely different.


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Response to "electronic music sounds the same" 2013-01-18 19:52:35 Reply

At 1/18/13 11:56 AM, amplefied wrote:
At 1/18/13 11:22 AM, Elitistinen wrote: But it still bases on musical rules. How idiotic are you?
which came first, music or music rules?

Yeah obviously music. Common sense would help you in this case.