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Response to Nude models Jan. 13th, 2013 @ 05:46 PM Reply

At 1/13/13 04:30 PM, Sekhem wrote: i'll pose nude 4 you

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Response to Nude models Jan. 13th, 2013 @ 05:49 PM Reply

2 hours is more than enough. Try doing more 2 minute sketches to lay out the form! Don't worry, the more you do it, the more confidant you'll feel. 6 hours is overkill to be honest, unless you were doing some sort of photorealistic attempt but that wouldn't be worth the time.

I say this as someone who's been doing life drawing for 3 hours a week since last September.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 13th, 2013 @ 05:49 PM Reply

At 1/13/13 05:46 PM, selena wrote:
At 1/13/13 04:30 PM, Sekhem wrote: i'll pose nude 4 you
this

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Response to Nude models Jan. 13th, 2013 @ 05:54 PM Reply

At 1/13/13 05:49 PM, Otto wrote: 2 hours is more than enough. Try doing more 2 minute sketches to lay out the form! Don't worry, the more you do it, the more confidant you'll feel. 6 hours is overkill to be honest, unless you were doing some sort of photorealistic attempt but that wouldn't be worth the time.

I say this as someone who's been doing life drawing for 3 hours a week since last September.

This is also completely true. Ancient Greece used to have 6 hour sessions but they were the only known country to do such things, no one else ever does them for that long.

Also a small note here. Something which the OP seems blissfully unaware of. Live modeling hurts. 2-3 hours is as long as you should really go, 6 hours will hurt the model this is less evident in simple poses but dynamic poses where they need to hold ropes to have their arms in the air or similar HURT after so long. You do not live model for extended periods of time. Doing such with a dynamic pose is one of the most physically difficult jobs to endure as strange as it might sound. The human body isn't built for such things.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 13th, 2013 @ 05:55 PM Reply

Also as someone who's been building a portfolio for so long to apply for an animation course, they won't want to see desperately long finished pieces that often. They will want to see a breadth, not just one mega detailed piece. One mega detailed piece only really proves that you have lots of time, and not a great ability as a draughtsman. Collate like 10 lots of 20 minute sketches, then 3 or 4 lots of 2-4 hour life drawings. Do lots, then choose the best out of it.

Also it's good to hear you want to draw from life. Drawing from a screen is fine but learning to draw from life is so incredibly important because it helps you think 3 dimensionally. You have two eyes and can see depth, unlike a camera. You will improve your ability to make choices, as opposed to just copying directly. Your ability to make tiny choices and translate that into pencil movement is what drawing is all about.

Hope this helps!


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Response to Nude models Jan. 13th, 2013 @ 08:59 PM Reply

At 1/13/13 05:55 PM, Otto wrote:
At 1/13/13 05:54 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: At 1/13/13 05:49 PM, Otto wrote: 2 hours is more than enough. Try doing more 2 minute sketches to lay out the form! Don't worry, the more you do it, the more confidant you'll feel. 6 hours is overkill to be honest, unless you were doing some sort of photorealistic attempt but that wouldn't be worth the time.

I say this as someone who's been doing life drawing for 3 hours a week since last September.
This is also completely true. Ancient Greece used to have 6 hour sessions but they were the only known country to do such things, no one else ever does them for that long.

ouch im a model

Well you guys know I didn't mean at one time LOL I would want the same model to pose over a long period in different sessions
Also some models my class had did 3 hours with small breaks (lol) So I figured 3 or 2 sessions. Which would only take me a day of time.
Okay but you did all succeed in making loses all interest in creating this piece so yeah....forget it.. ¯\_(ãf")_/¯
I'll just try and take more classes or something I guess
Uh thanks for your portfolio advice...

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 01:34 AM Reply

At 1/13/13 03:57 PM, 372 wrote: awh poor baby, they didn't like your "oh so obscure" drawings cause it wasn't in style :'(

Anyone whose job it is to critique and examine art should be capable of distinguishing good from bad regardless of what is currently trendy. My former art teachers and examiners were not capable of this. Furthermore, at the age of 16 I didn't have the money to travel to Russia as part of my "research" as they told me I was expected to.

(OR BECAUSE IT LOOKS FUCKING STUPID AS SHIT AND YOU CAN'T DRAW)

I have never claimed otherwise.

Just because you suck doesn't mean it's everyone elses fault lmfao

How I wish I shared your talent:

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:03 AM Reply

Porn. Its free, it doesn't get tired or complain, its there for you.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:04 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 01:34 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/13/13 03:57 PM, 372 wrote:
How I wish I shared your talent:

lol look an unfinished piece by me....(ran out of paint 0.o)
heres another
Go cry you faggot you fucking suck.

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:12 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:04 AM, 372 wrote: lol look an unfinished piece by me....(ran out of paint 0.o)
heres another

I bet you never get tired of people telling you how great you are.

Go cry you faggot you fucking suck.

oh my

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:17 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:12 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/14/13 02:04 AM, 372 wrote:

lol atleast use the things I worked on for more then 5 minutes to insult me faggot, i won't even post your art because...well...it's embarrassing

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:18 AM Reply

At 1/13/13 03:40 PM, 372 wrote:
At 1/13/13 03:33 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: Just get a photograph of someone. Good god. The desperation.
lol how am i desperate you fucking idiot.
YOUR UN-TALENTED ASS OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T KNOW but art colleges look for portfolios that aren't using PICTURES as a reference, but are using REAL LIFE. Not to mention using "PICTURES DUHH" off the internet is something called "Violating Copyright"
You fucking moron. This is fucking art time you lame ass fucker. Go back to third grade.

Wow. What a disproportionately hostile response.

With a temper like that, you're going to wind yourself into a depression thats going to lock up any and all of your artistic ambitions if you maintain that kind of shit in public. These posts you've been making to yurgenbergen make you look like a despicable piece of shit.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:20 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:18 AM, Phobotech wrote:

:oportionately hostile response.


With a temper like that, you're going to wind yourself into a depression thats going to lock up any and all of your artistic ambitions if you maintain that kind of shit in public. These posts you've been making to yurgenbergen make you look like a despicable piece of shit.

he called me desperate for wanting to use a real life reference insted of a photo LOL
all I said is true

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:23 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:17 AM, 372 wrote: lol atleast use the things I worked on for more then 5 minutes to insult me faggot

are you calling me a faggot

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:30 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:23 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/14/13 02:17 AM, 372 wrote: lol atleast use the things I worked on for more then 5 minutes to insult me faggot
are you calling me a faggot

ut rite i wish i was u :((( i shoulda drew elmo and hitler!

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:31 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:30 AM, 372 wrote: ut rite i wish i was u :((( i shoulda drew elmo and hitler!

do you want to have sex with me or something?

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:34 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:31 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/14/13 02:30 AM, 372 wrote: ut rite i wish i was u :((( i shoulda drew elmo and hitler!
do you want to have sex with me or something?

ya ur such a good artist teach me ur ways ur too undergound 4 me art college didnt know what IT WAS TALKING ABOUT

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:35 AM Reply

Go on to chat-roulette, then you're bound to see some partial nudity.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:35 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:20 AM, 372 wrote:
he called me desperate for wanting to use a real life reference insted of a photo LOL

Well what do you expect? You're 17, which means you're likely fap-happy and probably awkward around chicks; most everybody is at that age, and especially reclusive creative types. You could have easily laughed it off and be like, "Yep yep, I love titties up close" and kept it relevant to the topic from there. Instead, you essentially assaulted him with a steaming wetload of shit and douchebaggery.

Disproportionate. Uncalled for. Tactless. It's quite repelling.

all I said is true

You typed an opinion with "Un-talented ass"
You called him a "lame ass fucker" and a "fucking moron/idiot" ...at best, also opinions.
And we both know he ain't a third grader.

and this is all in just one of those posts.

Don't justify it...just own up to it, and acknowledge that it makes you seem like an insufferable asshole. If you're unlikable, it's going to make it more difficult to get us invested into your artwork. So just apologize, blame it on unstable teenaged hormones or something, and smile.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:36 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:34 AM, 372 wrote: ya ur such a good artist teach me ur ways ur too undergound 4 me art college didnt know what IT WAS TALKING ABOUT

this guy
is hilarious

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:38 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:36 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
this guy
is hilarious

Hey man, he's plugging your artwork for free! Any publicity is good publicity.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 03:01 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 02:38 AM, Phobotech wrote: Hey man, he's plugging your artwork for free! Any publicity is good publicity.

possibly the angriest delivery of publicity I've ever witnessed

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 05:44 AM Reply

At 1/13/13 03:56 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/13/13 03:52 PM, Xenomit wrote:
At 1/13/13 03:50 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: this kind of elitism is the exact reason I dropped art when I was in sixth form
You stopped doing something you liked because of how other people were acting?
I dropped art when it became apparent that my teachers and examiners expected me to create drawings/paintings that prove my knowledge of art history while spending as much money as possible on research excursions, instead of actually creating something unique and interesting.

Just because I like drawing/painting/whatever, doesn't mean I like striving to impress a bunch of elderly neckbeards who wouldn't know a good work of art if it smacked them in the face.

What i read was your teachers thought you were a shitty artist so you dropped out before your teachers could fail you.

Sucky artists always hide behind this excuse of elitism and being "too hip for the room" or "avant garde" or "unique"

So before i jump to conclusions, what classes were you taking and what were you trying to accomplish specifically...?


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 06:11 AM Reply

Buy a really cheap hooker.

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 10:41 AM Reply

At 1/14/13 05:44 AM, BizzarroPMP wrote:
What i read was your teachers thought you were a shitty artist so you dropped out before your teachers could fail you.

Sucky artists always hide behind this excuse of elitism and being "too hip for the room" or "avant garde" or "unique"

So before i jump to conclusions, what classes were you taking and what were you trying to accomplish specifically...?

My sister switched majors from Art to linguistics for pretty much the same reason. For what it's worth, her work was and still is constantly praised by almost everyone around her and she had nothing but support from my parents and her teachers. However, when she got there and started taking classes she felt as if it was restricting her. She thought that all the teachers were doing were criticizing her because they either didn't like what she was doing or they had gotten criticized for doing something similar before. She'll be fine because she's pretty much capable of doing anything she puts her mind to, but it was a pretty disheartening experience for her. (The picture below is an example of what she can do)

OP, if you're that susceptible to criticism (especially over the internet) you're going to get eaten alive. You need to relax a little.

Also, I really like a lot of yurgen's work. Not that my opinion on art matters because I'm absolutely shit at it but still.

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 12:45 PM Reply

At 1/13/13 08:59 PM, 372 wrote: Okay but you did all succeed in making loses all interest in creating this piece so yeah....forget it.. Ã'¯\_(ãf")_/Ã'¯
I'll just try and take more classes or something I guess
Uh thanks for your portfolio advice...

Well that's a shame I thought hard and typed out good advice that is totally wasted on someone who acts like such a little gimp. Please continue to know what's best.

Literally can't believe you pulled out your art to try and one-up somebody elses art. That's really embarrassing.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 01:00 PM Reply

At 1/14/13 12:45 PM, Otto wrote:
Literally can't believe you pulled out your art to try and one-up somebody elses art. That's really embarrassing.

I wanted to use "embarrassing" in my post too. Its shit like this that sullies the BBS and reflects on all of us for being regulars.

He has yet to publicly apologize.


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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:18 PM Reply

At 1/14/13 05:44 AM, BizzarroPMP wrote: What i read was your teachers thought you were a shitty artist

I didn't say that. You are putting words in my mouth.
My teachers thought I was technically capable, but they didn't like the stuff I was producing. There is a difference.

so you dropped out before your teachers could fail you.

I dropped the subject, and remained in Sixth Form. This is not "dropping out."

Sucky artists always hide behind this excuse of elitism and being "too hip for the room" or "avant garde"

I've never claimed to be any of those. Again, you are putting words in my mouth.
There were a number of other students in the same class who experienced the same thing as I did. I'm not claiming to be some beautiful snowflake.

So before i jump to conclusions

I think you're past that point.

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:40 PM Reply

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Response to Nude models Jan. 14th, 2013 @ 02:41 PM Reply

At 1/14/13 12:45 PM, Otto wrote:
At 1/13/13 08:59 PM, 372 wrote: Okay but you did all succeed in making loses all interest in creating this piece so yeah....forget it.. Ãf'Ã'¯\_(Ãf£f")_/Ãf'Ã'¯
I'll just try and take more classes or something I guess
Uh thanks for your portfolio advice...
Well that's a shame I thought hard and typed out good advice that is totally wasted on someone who acts like such a little gimp. Please continue to know what's best.

Literally can't believe you pulled out your art to try and one-up somebody elses art. That's really embarrassing.

I really didn't ask lol
Yeah because when someones insulting my doodles I should post someone else's art work...? Look yeah sorry I made fun of that guy for calling me desperate for no reason, I'm sure he's over it.