Re: Religious Folk Against Gay Marr

[Ononymous]

-iage being legal... if you guys believe gay marriage shouldn't be legal because your religion defines it as being wrong, would you also be okay with other religious groups in your faith exerting their own pressure to pass laws to restrict things that they find immoral?

Would you fundie Christians be okay with Catholics or Mormons having birth control or polygamy laws changed? Discuss.

[JRob]

I'm not going to state my opinion on the topic, but I would like to state that I personally know people who are Christian (no single denomination - some are Catholic, others are from varying protestant denominations) and support same-sex marriage. Even a person's political party doesn't necessarily determine his/her opinions on any individual issue - I know people who are conservative Republicans who support marriage equality (and as I already stated that party doesn't determine a person's opinions for every single issue, one of them is an Atheist). Some people just live in their own little world where all people who align themselves with a certain religion or political party can all be generalized and stereotyped as all having the exact same opinion on every single issue. Keep this in mind before all the name-calling and stereotyping begins on this post.

[laughatyourfuneral]

its up to the church to decide who marries in it not the state, you wouldnt go into a mosque and set up your grill and throw a pork party would you ?

[JRob]

At 1/3/13 06:34 PM, laughatyourfuneral wrote: its up to the church to decide who marries in it not the state, you wouldnt go into a mosque and set up your grill and throw a pork party would you ?

Correction - this post is about the legality of same-sex marriage, what you are thinking of is a wedding ceremony, which doesn't have to be held within a church (I have a cousin who had her wedding ceremony last year at a country club) - sure, a church has the right to deny holding a wedding ceremony on its property for whatever reason, but marriage is carried out by the state.

And the whole pork party thing would be something you don't do in a synagouge, not a mosque.

[Thecrazyman]

At 1/3/13 06:34 PM, laughatyourfuneral wrote: its up to the church to decide who marries in it not the state, you wouldnt go into a mosque and set up your grill and throw a pork party would you ?

This is without a doubt one of the big reasons why people need to see "Religion" as just a private club of devotion to someone or something, it shouldn't by any means be up to the state to decide who should marry and who shouldn't be married.

That said some people even forget why the Wall of Separation between State and Religion came to be, even then the Wall of Separation between State and Religion should state that all religions are nothing more and nothing less but private clubs of devotion. also enough said.

[LemonCrush]

At 1/3/13 11:34 PM, theJRob wrote: And the whole pork party thing would be something you don't do in a synagouge, not a mosque.

Credibility destroyed

[Sense-Offender]

It's annoying how some religious people think that their religion has a monopoly on marriage and that ame sex marriage should be outlawed just because a holy book says that it's wrong. Sure, a church or mosque or synagogue should be allowed to refuse to hold a gay wedding, but that's different from actually preventing that couple from ever vowing to spend the rest of their lives together and having the same benefits that a straight married couple has. Marriage existed well before the Abrahamic religions, and in some very old cultures, same sex couples actually did get married.

Also, it bugs me when Christians point to Leviticus when arguing against gay marriage or gay sex but also insist that the Old Testament doesn't matter when you bring up eating fish or getting tattoos.