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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-26 18:06:32 Reply

That would be Free Form Jazz.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-26 19:28:33 Reply

At 12/26/12 06:06 PM, MaskedGuardian wrote: That would be Free Form Jazz.

For jazz musicians, probably. But to the rest of us non-jazz producers, it looks pretty damn hard.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 01:01:56 Reply

As many people have said before me, it's all based on what you as a person think is the easiest. Personally, I think Hip Hop is easy as fuck. Find a sample, scrounge around for a break (cut-up or un-cut), add a bassline, maybe some hook vocals, rinse and repeat.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 08:25:16 Reply

Hip-Hop. It generally involves making an 80 BPM drum beat that you repeat throughout the song with maybe a few fills, and then throwing in some instrumental motifs here and there. Most of the time, there's little need for intricacy, dynamics, complicated mixing and a lot of other stuff that usually makes music hard to create.

At 12/26/12 06:06 PM, MaskedGuardian wrote: That would be Free Form Jazz.

That's debatable. To make Free Form Jazz that actually sounds good you need to have practically mastered your instrument, which takes years of daily practice and unwavering dedication.


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 08:57:23 Reply

At 12/27/12 08:25 AM, Step wrote: Hip-Hop. It generally involves making an 80 BPM drum beat that you repeat throughout the song with maybe a few fills, and then throwing in some instrumental motifs here and there. Most of the time, there's little need for intricacy, dynamics, complicated mixing and a lot of other stuff that usually makes music hard to create.

1. 80BPM
2. Steal, I mean "sample" some other person's audio / intellectual property.
3. Write "lyrics".
4. Mash everything together
5. ?
6. ?
7. Profit!

just kidding :P

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 12:41:47 Reply

Hardstyle.

1) Add a 4x4 synthesized drum kick
2) Add a simple melody break
3) Repeat 1) and 2)
4) ???
5) Profit

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 14:20:49 Reply

I'd have to agree with hip-hop as being the easiest genre to "make", simply because you don't need as much skill in mastering the more technical aspects of production in comparison.

...obviously, you'll have to spend a lot of time crafting your lyrics and making them have at least a somewhat fitting rhythm ("somewhat" because even now, some rap artists like to stagger very far off quantized rhythms quite a bit).

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 16:46:30 Reply

At 12/26/12 06:06 PM, MaskedGuardian wrote: That would be Free Form Jazz.

I don't really like Jazz, but drumming for Jazz is quite hard.

I think it would be rap, or country.


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 16:46:56 Reply

At 12/27/12 02:20 PM, debit13 wrote: ...obviously, you'll have to spend a lot of time crafting your lyrics and making them have at least a somewhat fitting rhythm

Not even. Just blather on about "bitches", "hoes" and "bling".

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 17:48:25 Reply

As mentioned before (by me) Lowercase, which is practically low volume recording of... nothing.
The album that define the style is actually recording of paper being handled, so, the process goes like this:
1 - get a microphone (or if your default laptop microphone is not very noisy, use that one)
2 - get some papers, a book or something
3 - hit "record" button and turn pages every 2-3 minutes.

As for rap or country being simple, come on, Miles Davis has a rap album, Snoop Dog recorded also with jazz legend Clark Terry, and I've heard pretty bad-ass country guitar players. Definitely, not easy.
Whatever you do good and you put a lot of passion in it, it will be not easy. Every style of music require to understand and master it's vocabulary, which is taking time and effort.
For that also pop music is hard to make, because you'll have to listen to a lot of it to "catch" the style, and that's an effort already.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 19:51:26 Reply

At 12/27/12 05:48 PM, sorohanro wrote: As mentioned before (by me) Lowercase, which is practically low volume recording of... nothing.

I agree with this. Lowercase is by far the easiest, but it's not well known, so it wouldn't be an obvious answer like hip-hop.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 19:54:19 Reply

At 12/27/12 04:46 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 12/27/12 02:20 PM, debit13 wrote: ...obviously, you'll have to spend a lot of time crafting your lyrics and making them have at least a somewhat fitting rhythm
Not even. Just blather on about "bitches", "hoes" and "bling".

Nah, sometime they do broken deck too


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 21:36:11 Reply

Is it weird that I'm great at making metal, but I can't make hip hop beats? :/


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 21:50:23 Reply

Just because something sucks doesn't mean it's easy to do.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-27 22:09:04 Reply

That one genre that I really dislike. You know the one? Man that shit's awful. I bet they don't even try.


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-28 05:05:03 Reply

All these "x genre is so easy to make, just do y and z and you're done" posts are missing the point.

You can make music in any genre you want in five minutes if you wanted to, but depending on your level of understanding of composition, mixing, mastering, and overall musical knowledge, the end result will vary drastically from person to person. You're also ignoring the fact that different types of music require different skills, not to mention that all major genres have music ranging from minimalist to complex pieces. It's not about which genre of music is the easiest to produce anyway (or at least I don't think it should be), it's about what you like listening to and would like to make yourself.

And if you stick to your comfort zone, then you're not really challenging yourself and growing as a musician. At the end of the day, it's not about learning how to make something decent, it's about mastering whatever you're focusing on, and it's a long way to accomplish that.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-28 10:11:55 Reply

I'd say Hardstyle. For the most part it all sounds the same, and just involves a grinding kick and a huge saw.


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-28 14:35:37 Reply

At 12/25/12 11:03 AM, ZipZipper wrote:
At 12/25/12 08:52 AM, Yoshiii343 wrote:
At 12/25/12 08:45 AM, sorohanro wrote: Lowercase probably.
To be fair, all form of minimalist music (extreme or not) is pretty easy.
I dunno...handling a piece of paper is about as easy as it gets. A lot of minimalist pieces are way more complex than that.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-28 14:38:53 Reply

At 12/25/12 11:03 AM, ZipZipper wrote:
At 12/25/12 08:52 AM, Yoshiii343 wrote:
At 12/25/12 08:45 AM, sorohanro wrote: Lowercase probably.
To be fair, all form of minimalist music (extreme or not) is pretty easy.
I dunno...handling a piece of paper is about as easy as it gets. A lot of minimalist pieces are way more complex than that.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-28 17:28:31 Reply

At 12/25/12 11:47 AM, DivoFST wrote:

Not complaining about that, actually most form of "Extreme art" are laughable before it can be appreciated and sometimes it cant even pass the funny phase, I had to hear The Mars Volta Cds 3 or 4 times before my stupid brain could grasp how awesome they are.

LOL. I wouldn't have survived highschool without Deloused In The Comatorium. I feel really bad for people that can't enjoy some good old mars volta but uhhhh, this forum isn't about discusing the apreciation of music sooooo....

Ambient. I LOVE to hate the genre. I just can't stand listening to music when it sounds like one fucking note. Sure, you can get complex with programming it but if it still just sounds like one note, what was the fucking point of all that patching? As for people saying that it "relaxes them" meh. Heavy metal relaxes me. It's conditioning. The more you listen to a genre the more you'll like it... unless it's ambient. In which case you're still just listening to one note.

Ambient: simple music for simple people.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-28 17:34:46 Reply

At 12/26/12 08:08 AM, Axel7 wrote:
At 12/25/12 11:59 PM, jpbear wrote:
slower bpm

No joke, the last time I tried to burn a cd of my DNB stuffs all the songs came out in super slow motion. I think the next five songs I write will actually be the last five songs I wrote :p


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 02:32:40 Reply

Well, it depends on the person's skills, and technologies that are available for him/her.
For me, the easiest would be Trance. Assuming that I never heard of the genre "lowercase" before.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 07:15:19 Reply

I'll name trance. I will exclude all kinds of "exotic" genres (lowercase, hardstyle, etc.) which I'd just slander to hell and back for how simple they are.
Don't get me wrong here, I like good trance. Just that bad trance is easy to make. All one needs is 4/4 time sig, puncy kick, synthes... Really, although not many of my trance tracks have turned out well, they are, to me, still easiest to make.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 07:29:28 Reply

At 12/29/12 07:15 AM, Jernemies wrote: I'll name trance. I will exclude all kinds of "exotic" genres (lowercase, hardstyle, etc.) which I'd just slander to hell and back for how simple they are.
Don't get me wrong here, I like good trance. Just that bad trance is easy to make. All one needs is 4/4 time sig, puncy kick, synthes... Really, although not many of my trance tracks have turned out well, they are, to me, still easiest to make.

Trance is weird because its easy to make bad trance but incredibly fucking hard to make good trance.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 07:46:32 Reply

trance is pretty easy. Requires close to no skill and sounds good too. Problem is , nobody listens it anymore


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 08:35:20 Reply

to everybody talking to trance: you know trance is a macrogenre, right?
We're not talking about apples, bananas or oranges, but about fruits. Still today it's hard to say if a track belongs to trance or not...

And don't let me think about people who call it techno, lol


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 09:21:34 Reply

Modern Country. Ha ha ha ha

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 14:59:24 Reply

NG 's VIdeo Game genre is the easiest... now I see.

First, you search online for pre-made MIDI(s) of video games. Download it/them. Open it/them in DAW of choice. Fill its/their notes with instrument(s) of choice. Render/record it/them. Upload it/them to NG and put in the damn description(s) stuff like "Hey I remix/remake this/these".

???

Your stuff automatically get(s) >=10,000 views from people.

NG is full of stuff like this. Final Fantasy rips top everything else, 2nd to Zelda. Boohoo! Everything note of each FF7 main theme remixes sounds exactly the same.

... These are even worse than hiphop artists do sampling.


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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 15:10:27 Reply

At 12/29/12 02:59 PM, dem0lecule wrote: NG 's VIdeo Game genre is the easiest... now I see.

First, you search online for pre-made MIDI(s) of video games. Download it/them. Open it/them in DAW of choice. Fill its/their notes with instrument(s) of choice. Render/record it/them. Upload it/them to NG and put in the damn description(s) stuff like "Hey I remix/remake this/these".

???

Your stuff automatically get(s) >=10,000 views from people.

NG is full of stuff like this. Final Fantasy rips top everything else, 2nd to Zelda. Boohoo! Everything note of each FF7 main theme remixes sounds exactly the same.

... These are even worse than hiphop artists do sampling.

There should be two categories : Videogame - Midi / Remix and Videogame - Original. I am also annoyed by the sheer amount of "remixes" in the Video games section as I also tend to post a lot there, be it chiptune stuff or orchestral loops made for videogames.

I also love the old classics, but composing an own song is very different from remixing / rearranging / whatever an existing one.

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Response to Easiest Genre to Make? 2012-12-29 17:00:04 Reply

Yes, unfortunately, chiptunes and original loops have to stay in that place. NG 's VG genre is a 2nd Miscellaneous.

Last but not least, chiptune and VG music are apple and orange.


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