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Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:30:44 Reply

Here!
Take a look at my first speed drawing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou5FzhGirmQ&list=UUjstX9n-o7d Ro6V7yg-icoQ&index=1

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:34:23 Reply

pls stop drawing in flash. flash is a horrendous program for drawing lineart or coloring.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:36:01 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:34 PM, Template88 wrote: pls stop drawing in flash. flash is a horrendous program for drawing lineart or coloring.

I concur! :)


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:37:16 Reply

well... this was much more under whelming than I thought it would be.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:41:21 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:34 PM, Template88 wrote: pls stop drawing in flash. flash is a horrendous program for drawing lineart or coloring.

Please stop telling people to stop using flash for drawing. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not right for others.

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:42:48 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:37 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: well... this was much more under whelming than I thought it would be.

Well at least I tried, right?


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:54:40 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:41 PM, ReNaeNae wrote:
At 12/18/12 05:34 PM, Template88 wrote: pls stop drawing in flash. flash is a horrendous program for drawing lineart or coloring.
Please stop telling people to stop using flash for drawing. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not right for others.

No. I think I will not stop saying that, it is my opinion. I've seen very few examples of good line art made in flash directly, its a horrible tool for beginners to try to use, the lines are almost random when drawn with pressure sensitivity even carefully. That makes them garbage.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:59:06 Reply

You may want to work on your ability to draw in the first place before you work on your speed.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 17:59:50 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:59 PM, Aigis wrote: You may want to work on your ability to draw in the first place before you work on your speed.

You're saying it's bad..?


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 18:04:38 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:54 PM, Template88 wrote: it is my opinion.

It is my opinion that Flash is awesome, and I recommend it to people of all skill levels.

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 18:09:14 Reply

At 12/18/12 06:04 PM, ReNaeNae wrote:
At 12/18/12 05:54 PM, Template88 wrote: it is my opinion.
It is my opinion that Flash is awesome, and I recommend it to people of all skill levels.

Ok and I will never ask you to not say that. That's the very important difference here.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 19:31:51 Reply

At 12/18/12 05:34 PM, Template88 wrote: pls stop drawing in flash. flash is a horrendous program for drawing lineart or coloring.

Don't give advise saying not to use a tool, he may find it perfect for him flash is not a bad tool for drawing... OR coloring. It's not the best, but again let them decide for themselves. Suggest alternatives instead in a nice way

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 19:37:35 Reply

At 12/18/12 07:31 PM, Lucky wrote:
At 12/18/12 05:34 PM, Template88 wrote: pls stop drawing in flash. flash is a horrendous program for drawing lineart or coloring.
Don't give advise saying not to use a tool, he may find it perfect for him flash is not a bad tool for drawing... OR coloring. It's not the best, but again let them decide for themselves. Suggest alternatives instead in a nice way

You've gone over the line by saying flash is not a bad tool for coloring. Please show me a decent painting done in flash. Anything. Anything that isn't simple cel shading.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 19:47:21 Reply

You've gone over the line by saying flash is not a bad tool for coloring. Please show me a decent painting done in flash. Anything. Anything that isn't simple cel shading.

And why is cel shading simple? Your personal line maybe, also coloring isn't painting last time i checked. When I update my DA vector artist watch list I'll send you some art. Mean time patience, I cant be arsed scouting the internet to prove a point

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 19:53:10 Reply

actually here's something i did at 16, took me 3-4 days, it was a straight up trace. But it wasn't cell shading so there
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs11/f/2006/186/a/7/beetle.png I used the blur option on some of the top colors to make em rastery. I dont do that shit anymore because it is straight up tracing, but you can indeed replicate blurry and raster looks in a vector software if you try enough

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:00:38 Reply

At 12/18/12 07:47 PM, Lucky wrote:
You've gone over the line by saying flash is not a bad tool for coloring. Please show me a decent painting done in flash. Anything. Anything that isn't simple cel shading.
And why is cel shading simple? Your personal line maybe, also coloring isn't painting last time i checked. When I update my DA vector artist watch list I'll send you some art. Mean time patience, I cant be arsed scouting the internet to prove a point

Do i seriously need to explain to you why cel shading is considered simple?

I know all about vectors and vector artists, I am one, and Ive looked at some of the best vector artists already to learn whatever programs or techniques they used to do their shit.

Any vector art color that would be more advanced than cel shading would need to use gradients. They added a new feature in adobe illustrator called a gradient mesh which allowed some extremely patient artists to make realistic vector art colors that mimicked painted tones allowing for realistic rendering of objects. Flash's use of gradients is extremely inferior in comparison allowing only for the most simple of gradients to be created. This limits a persons use of color in flash and makes rendering extremely inefficient.

this is the best rendering that can be done currently with vector art mediums and it is through adobe illustrator, not flash that this can be done in. flash simply doesn't have the tools for the job. newgrounds is hilarious for defending flash as a drawing medium.

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:04:28 Reply

lul lucky, that doesnt look like it was made in flash, it looks like it was made in illustrator, show me the source page not the image where the artist claims it was done in flash


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:14:50 Reply

At 12/18/12 08:04 PM, Template88 wrote: lul lucky, that doesnt look like it was made in flash, it looks like it was made in illustrator, show me the source page not the image where the artist claims it was done in flash

The artist was me I dont have the source file anymore, i made it on my Dell 5 houses ago

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:15:41 Reply

But you are saying you did it in flash, not illustrator?


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:16:46 Reply

At 12/18/12 08:15 PM, Template88 wrote: But you are saying you did it in flash, not illustrator?

aha

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:17:18 Reply

At 12/18/12 08:16 PM, Lucky wrote:
At 12/18/12 08:15 PM, Template88 wrote: But you are saying you did it in flash, not illustrator?
aha

well?


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:24:41 Reply

At 12/18/12 08:15 PM, Template88 wrote: But you are saying you did it in flash, not illustrator?

2 more i found from my gallery on the old sheezyart account
If you zoom in twice it disables the filters
http://art1.server01.sheezyart.com/swf/68/688722.swf

http://art1.server01.sheezyart.com/swf/81/818058_2.swf (sorry for the obnoxious sound, pillows have textures in em)

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 20:26:12 Reply

Oops sorry for the second link I re-exported it and reimported it because it laggedtoo much when i did that speaker effect

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-18 21:05:27 Reply

Pretty sure the original post was a joke and you've all got in a heated debate over nothing.

sat here giggling like an idiot at the comparison part of the video

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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-19 04:59:16 Reply

At 12/18/12 09:05 PM, Patonion wrote: you've all got in a heated debate over nothing.

Is that really what you'd call a heated debate?
They're not insulting each other, and they're presenting their cases with pics.

It's more interesting than the original topic of the thread.


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Response to Speed Drawing 2012-12-19 05:41:27 Reply

At 12/18/12 09:05 PM, Patonion wrote: Pretty sure the original post was a joke and you've all got in a heated debate over nothing.

sat here giggling like an idiot at the comparison part of the video

Glad I amused you, haha! ;)


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