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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 09:40 AM Reply

At 12/18/12 09:37 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote: Go easy on him.

I cant though

I mean it only sounds crackly if youre incapable of taking care of your stuff properly.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 09:48 AM Reply

At 12/18/12 09:46 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote: He wouldn't know that because he's lagging behind all of us a bit, if you know what I mean.

I bet he converts 192 mp3 into flac

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 10:32 AM Reply

what the fuck is vinyl i'm a young upstart with nothing to lose


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 11:16 AM Reply

Vinyl sounds lovely if not expensive as fuck. Not just for the set, I can understand that but buying the actual vinyl. I would own like 3 maybe 4 records. That's no way to live so untill I get a job and can support the habit then I'm goods. It's also kind of hard for me to find records. I see the Vinyl option on Bandcamp maybe once out of 7 artists.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 11:59 AM Reply

At 12/17/12 11:25 PM, MuyBurrito wrote: Of course Vinyl sounds better than a CD. It's a smooth mechanical recording, not a digital series. Your ears can detect the difference.

Amazingly, vinyl was invented before the CD, yet, it is a better product than the CD.

No bass or surround :(


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:08 PM Reply

I own a vinyl, cd, and digital copy of an album, and listening to them side-by-side you can obviously tell the vinyl sounds better.

Also can people PLEASE stop with the whole convenience thing?
This is a thread for which SOUNDS better. Not which is better to carry around with you....
Of course vinyl isn't very convenient.
But that doesn't mean it automatically makes it worse than digital.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:10 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:08 PM, Viper50 wrote: I own a vinyl, cd, and digital copy of an album, and listening to them side-by-side you can obviously tell the vinyl sounds better.

Also can people PLEASE stop with the whole convenience thing?
This is a thread for which SOUNDS better. Not which is better to carry around with you....
Of course vinyl isn't very convenient.
But that doesn't mean it automatically makes it worse than digital.

CD yes, but computer file just depends. if its a flac then its going to be pretty much the same quality.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:11 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:10 PM, BumFodder wrote: CD yes, but computer file just depends. if its a flac then its going to be pretty much the same quality.

Yeah I suppose you're right.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:17 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:08 PM, Viper50 wrote: I own a vinyl, cd, and digital copy of an album, and listening to them side-by-side you can obviously tell the vinyl sounds better.

is just cuz ur speekers, or hedsets suck dude. thats only reson.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:20 PM Reply

CD audio is much better in terms of sound clarity, but vinyl is superior in terms of sound fidelity. CDs can be copied many times before getting to the CD processing factory, and even then the files to be burnt will no doubt be 128kps MP3s. All vinyl records are pressed using a physical master, so while it may be of a better fidelity, vinyl record production is much more expensive.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:20 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:17 PM, eatdatpussy wrote:
At 12/18/12 12:08 PM, Viper50 wrote: I own a vinyl, cd, and digital copy of an album, and listening to them side-by-side you can obviously tell the vinyl sounds better.
is just cuz ur speekers, or hedsets suck dude. thats only reson.

If you're trying to get me to argue with you I wont :D
I don't argue with people over the internet. And even if I do I honestly couldn't care less about said "argument"

also learn to spell ._.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:25 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:20 PM, Viper50 wrote: If you're trying to get me to argue with you I wont :D
I don't argue with people over the internet. And even if I do I honestly couldn't care less about said "argument"

but rely man its true only reson dat teh whynile is beter sound quolity is cuz teh speekers from da pc (or mac if ur homosexualy) probaly sucks. trust me i wont lie to u.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:42 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:25 PM, eatdatpussy wrote: but rely man its true only reson dat teh whynile is beter sound quolity is cuz teh speekers from da pc (or mac if ur homosexualy) probaly sucks. trust me i wont lie to u.

I wont deny my speakers are pretty crappy. Considering I've had em since before my parents got divorced....
Though they sound like they did when they were new ._.
Granted they were acting up a bit...but thats because there was a loose wire inside but I got that all fixed up.
But I also have speakers built into my monitor, and those work fine.

A little quieter than I'd like.

But fine.

Also I have a PC. But I'm okay with people that use macs. It's personal preference what they want to use.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 12:49 PM Reply

Whilst I rank musical players like this

digital storage device
cd
vinyl
casette tape

there is still something magical in the putting on of the vinyl. It's interactive. You end up paying more attention to it and appreciating the music. It's probably no coincidence that most music listened in modern age to vinyl is the more rich music i.e. Pink Floyd or The Doors or something, y'know? You form a bond with that album when you physically lay it carefully on the needle. I rarely ever use one but I feel it's quite respectful to the music when doing the act.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 01:04 PM Reply

At 12/17/12 11:11 PM, MrSoxfan wrote: I wish hipster fuckheads would stop saying that.

Vinyl is hipster now? haha.

Vinyl sounds awesome...unless you get vinyl made from digital masters...yuck

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 01:06 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 11:59 AM, Dragen wrote:
No bass or surround :(

Are you suggesting there is no bass on vinyl? Or that there's no surround records on vinyl?

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 01:13 PM Reply

so let them be stuck using completely inferior technology if it doesn't get in the way of you personally.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 01:24 PM Reply

At 12/17/12 11:30 PM, MrSoxfan wrote: And if you really care that much about the sound quality you're a pretentious prick who doesn't care about music.

Holy fuck this seriously got mad.
Are you retarded?


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 01:25 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 01:24 PM, Slint wrote:
At 12/17/12 11:30 PM, MrSoxfan wrote: And if you really care that much about the sound quality you're a pretentious prick who doesn't care about music.
Holy fuck this seriously got mad.
Are you retarded?

got me mad*


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 01:38 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 01:35 PM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:
Too late, already printed.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 02:22 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 01:13 PM, Urban-Champion wrote: so let them be stuck using completely inferior technology if it doesn't get in the way of you personally.

It isn't inferior though

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:05 PM Reply

I wish I had my own setup for listening to vinyl, as well as a few of my own vinyl albums; then I could decide for myself which I like better. The only vinyl albums I've ever heard have been other people's albums on their own systems and I've never been impressed.

I like Otto's explanation of it :3


It made more sense in my head.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:13 PM Reply

Ever time I talk about music to my friends, it always goes back to vinyl. Honestly, I don't give a van damme about which one I should use. I admit, vinyl does make the track sound a tiny bit better, but not by much.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:13 PM Reply

Analog ftw!!!!

They compress too much in CD's.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:17 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 12:49 PM, Otto wrote: there is still something magical in the putting on of the vinyl. It's interactive. You end up paying more attention to it and appreciating the music. It's probably no coincidence that most music listened in modern age to vinyl is the more rich music i.e. Pink Floyd or The Doors or something, y'know? You form a bond with that album when you physically lay it carefully on the needle. I rarely ever use one but I feel it's quite respectful to the music when doing the act.

These are some good points. I'd also like to mention the bang for buck aspect. Records are usually the same price, and sometimes far less than cd's are, and you get so much more. Better sound, not to mention good packaging...you're getting an experience...

When I get Cd's I tend to lose them or not take care of them because they seem so disposable.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:19 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 03:16 PM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:
At 12/18/12 03:13 PM, Provoke wrote: Honestly, I don't give a van damme
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Oh its natick, being natick as usual.

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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:24 PM Reply

At 12/17/12 11:11 PM, MrSoxfan wrote: I wish hipster fuckheads would stop saying that.

Vinyl DOES sound better, guess I'm a hipster fuckhead.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:25 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 03:13 PM, Sequenced wrote: They compress too much in CD's.

Because clearly notoriously bad loudness-war abiding digital remasterings are a proper metric of judgement...

In terms of purely clinical sound, digital playback is more accurate. Period. I have more emotional interest in Vinyl than any audio file or CD myself - but not to the point of clouded judgement or denial of factual information.

For one, Vinyl doesn't produce deep stereo bass tones correctly. It doesn't support surround sound. It has hiss, crackles, surface noise, and is a pain in the ass to maintain. It fails to support a standardized method of playback. It makes the low frequencies muddled and inaccurate. Bit depth beyond 24 is completely inaudible to the human ear.

Studio technicians test their mixes and mastering in digital environments, anyways. You simply wont get an accurate representation of the artist's sonic intention when buying Vinyl, since Vinyl is usually not among the tested formats.

Hydrogenaudio has a nice list of pros and cons for this too. Check 'em out.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 04:48 PM Reply

I acknowledge the scientific fact that vinyl is supposed to sound better, but from my experiences, I prefer digital waaaaaay more than vinyl. That's mostly due to the fact that I don't like rock, and that's pretty much all vinyl is good for.


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Response to "Vinyl sounds better" Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 04:58 PM Reply

At 12/18/12 03:25 PM, Landpaddle wrote:
For one, Vinyl doesn't produce deep stereo bass tones correctly. It doesn't support surround sound.

Bull. Shit. Bass sounds on funk and jazz records (two of my favorite genres) are sometimes TOO much...and they're far more realistic

And a Dark Side of the Moon surround sound remaster just came out