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Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 09:07 PM Reply

The year 20XX, say by then we've found the cure to psychopathy, or a certain gene that controls it.
We can genetically engineer this gene in our favor for newborns but can also change this gene in people that may have it expressed too much.
The road to a safer civilization is on the way, with less killings, raping etc.
Travesties like Columbine, Aurora, and this most recent tragedy Sandy Hook all looks like a thing of the past.

Although there's one issue... already existing psychopaths, still dangerous and at large, may not choose to have the operation, but are still considered a threat.
In a free society, can you really force psychopaths to get this treatment, even if they are still a threat to men, women and children?

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 09:12 PM Reply

Life would get pretty boring without psychopaths.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 09:28 PM Reply

>"a certain gene that controls it. "

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 09:32 PM Reply

At 12/14/12 09:28 PM, Jester wrote: >"a certain gene that controls it. "

You got all of his dominant genes! I got all the flawed recessive genes!

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 10:42 PM Reply

The problem would be finding out who the psychopaths were, because if they lasted that long undetected, then how could we do anything it about it regardless? And to be honest, i'd be a bit concerned that it could be abused to silence sane people who choose to voice unpopular opinions.


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 10:48 PM Reply

At 12/14/12 09:32 PM, Ragnarokia wrote:
At 12/14/12 09:28 PM, Jester wrote: >"a certain gene that controls it. "
You got all of his dominant genes! I got all the flawed recessive genes!

Fuck you liquid you got to live in another body


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 11:21 PM Reply

A Psychopath is basically born into it, include here any sense of any mental derangement that you may consider it would describe it best. However, a sociopath becomes one.

All this sort of terms have got room in criminology and medicine, in a social enviroment this is absolutely impossible to measure, nobody would go like "HAI GUISE, IMMA PSYCHO". Therefore, unless this person does some sort of crime and gets convicted for it, or in a way gets evaluated by professionals, it's impossible to measure who may or may not be one. In fact, these individuals never want any help and they tend to be rather withdrawn from society as it is.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 14th, 2012 @ 11:29 PM Reply

"We need to stop all frontal lobotomy procedures" they said! "It's a medieval practice in surgery" they said!


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 02:21 AM Reply

The shooter at the school seems more like a sociopath than a psychopath.

There's a difference.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 10:03 AM Reply

At 12/14/12 11:21 PM, sayomgwtf wrote: A Psychopath is basically born into it, include here any sense of any mental derangement that you may consider it would describe it best. However, a sociopath becomes one.

really? what is even the difference between the two terms? also evidence

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 10:18 AM Reply

I hate to say it, but they have every right to deny the treatment. Maybe if they already committed a crime, they could have a choice between life in prison or treatment so further crimes cannot be committed. But if they had committed no crimes or felonies, then they have rights.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 10:46 AM Reply

less then 1% of people in America are psychopaths. Besides shit happens, you can't control everything.


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 10:52 AM Reply

At 12/15/12 02:21 AM, Darthdenim wrote: The shooter at the school seems more like a sociopath than a psychopath.

There's a difference.

Yeah, sure there is.


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 11:06 AM Reply

At 12/15/12 10:52 AM, Sensationalism wrote:
At 12/15/12 02:21 AM, Darthdenim wrote: The shooter at the school seems more like a sociopath than a psychopath.

There's a difference.
Yeah, sure there is.

Well... it's just differences in the origin of crazy. psychopathy you're born with, sociopaths are bred by society.


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 11:12 AM Reply

The best solution is evolution.


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 12:29 PM Reply



The shooter at the school seems more like a sociopath than a psychopath.

There's a difference.
Yeah, sure there is.
Well... it's just differences in the origin of crazy. psychopathy you're born with, sociopaths are bred by society.

Also, psychopaths can blend into society very well, while sociopaths are more obviously abnormal.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 12:32 PM Reply

the only way that could work would be to take away peoples ability to be angry


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 15th, 2012 @ 02:59 PM Reply

At 12/15/12 10:18 AM, Provoke wrote: I hate to say it, but they have every right to deny the treatment. Maybe if they already committed a crime, they could have a choice between life in prison or treatment so further crimes cannot be committed. But if they had committed no crimes or felonies, then they have rights.

You are right, Provoke :/

Unfortunately, from what I have learned (police department, legal attorneys and medical professionals) they seem to deny treatment every single time. In their eyes there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, it's everything is that is.

When they committed a crime usually jail time is the way the sentence goes because they get appointed medical treatment by court but that never sticks, and then they magically become religious and charm everyone and their mom just to get time off probation to break it, go back to jail and so it goes. It's a long chain of lies and vices but in the process of this happening lives get ruined and people get hurt.

At 12/15/12 10:03 AM, Earfetish wrote:
At 12/14/12 11:21 PM, sayomgwtf wrote: A Psychopath is basically born into it, include here any sense of any mental derangement that you may consider it would describe it best. However, a sociopath becomes one.
really? what is even the difference between the two terms? also evidence

The most qualified person to explain this would be a psychiatrist that works directly with this particular area. Not all psychiatrists understand psychopathy neither any of them want to even deal with one. However, this is somewhat nice and detailed about the general aspects of the subject:

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath

One thing to understand from this is that: this is not a cookie cutter profile to apply on everything. This is just an article that points out general areas of a problem. Everyone is different, so these things need to be evaluated for long periods of times before they can even become a diagnosis and even so, it will not be the same for everyone.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 17th, 2012 @ 10:03 PM Reply

The differences are like those of autistics and aspies. they're classified as the same.


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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:34 AM Reply

Sounds like a boring life to live, to be honest.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:43 AM Reply

At 12/14/12 09:28 PM, Jester wrote: >"a certain gene that controls it. "

Or a drug that can prevent me from loving those beautiful little boys.

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Response to Moral choice Psychopaths Dec. 18th, 2012 @ 03:58 AM Reply

1 in 88 children are born with a form of autism. We have a cure...in fact half a dozen cures. Just like cancer, they've been shot down by the medical board because God forbid we don't make money over these insane treatments we put these people through.

We keep broadening the term for mentally ill or association with some 'terrible' disease. Cure it if you will, but there's no excuse for the law or doctors when those act out on their illness and then become punished for them. They do nothing to prevent it from happening. Like cheaper healthcare so those can get help. I'm certain we have already found a way to genetically alter the way we come out of the womb. We just won't enforce it or legalize it.


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