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At 12/14/12 05:44 PM, Seamonky wrote: People shouldn't even have guns in this country, period. I look at it this way, the moment a person has a gun, the more the crime rate goes up.

OH PLEASE its a known fact that places with more law abidding citizens with firearms and Concealed carry have lower crime rate, just look at California, Chicago, New York. this asshole got his gun legally no strings attached, just like I could do within 2 hours. 3 background checks conducted (comes out clean) money and a selection of what firearm I want. DONE

Often in these sort of cases, whereas the actual perpetrator of the crime has killed themselves, the blame will shift to his brother, or friends, and they will bear the brunt of the resulting punishment. Good old standard mindset of "someone has to be punished even if the one responsible has already killed themselves".

This was the case in Canada with mass shooter James Roszko. Having killed himself and the prosecution having no one to bring to trial, they focused instead on his acquaintances. Shawn Hennessey and Dennis Cheeseman, two men who were not even friends of Roszko, but because they knew Roszko on a casual basis, were suddenly drummed up on manslaughter charges.

Common sense says, the one responsible is dead, now it is time to mourn for the victims and show them the proper respect.

But we all know the media (and the justice system, which in turn faces pressure from the media), doesn't have a dose of common sense. They'll find their scapegoat(s) and everyone else except the dead shooter will be blamed instead, and probably prosecuted, and the whole thing becomes a garish media circus.

At 12/14/12 06:28 PM, Ryanson wrote:

At 12/14/12 05:58 PM, BrokenDeck wrote: They'll find their scapegoat(s) and everyone else except the dead shooter will be blamed instead.

People are currently attacking Mass Effect. The facebook page for the game is loaded with people blaming it because (unless I'm mistaken) the killer liked the page.

Video games have always born the frontal assault of blame. Didn't take them long did it?

At 12/14/12 06:29 PM, Darthdenim wrote: http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/newtown-school-shoo ting-michael-moore-other-celebrities-demand-gun-control-twit ter-69346

Here comes Michael Moore.

Oh boy.

LOL all B and C listed celebrities who gives a shit if they had any brains they would know gun control doesn't work.

At 12/14/12 06:29 PM, Darthdenim wrote: http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/newtown-school-shoo ting-michael-moore-other-celebrities-demand-gun-control-twit ter-69346

It's a fight between two extremes, and it seems not enough people are interested in a reasonable middle ground at all.

At 12/14/12 06:42 PM, wildfire4461 wrote: I wish somebody would gut him with a bowie knife and get it over with.

if they did that to michael moore there would be fat everywhere!

At 12/14/12 06:29 PM, Darthdenim wrote: http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/newtown-school-shoo ting-michael-moore-other-celebrities-demand-gun-control-twit ter-69346

Here comes Michael Moore.

Oh boy.

Oh god.. that guy is terrible. Just infuriating to know how backwards and hypocritical he is.

At 12/14/12 05:59 PM, DarkShadowblade wrote: You're an oblivious and ignorant idiot who has no concept of laws.

Ah, I'm sorry that I don't study Mesopotamian culture. Doesn't give you the right to call me an idiot who has no concept of laws man.

Idiocy of NG posters aside, My heart goes out to all those who are affected

Sorry, but just because I don't know a ton about a certain subject, doesn't mean I'm an idiot. I am sure you are quite ignorant on many subjects, but you don't see me calling you an idiot.

Let's try and NOT start a flame war in a topic where the real thing that matters is that a tragedy in which many lives were taken, the majority of them children.

Shit like this is the reason easy access to guns in the US is batshit insane to me. Yeah people can argue that if someone wants to mass murder people in a large setting enough then they will find another way how to but talk about making it easy for them to commit a mass travesty like this.

At 12/14/12 07:27 PM, Gagsy wrote: Shit like this is the reason easy access to guns in the US is batshit insane to me. Yeah people can argue that if someone wants to mass murder people in a large setting enough then they will find another way how to but talk about making it easy for them to commit a mass travesty like this.

So you would rather people are stripped of the ability to defend themselves when people like this exist? Easy access? A lot of this is done by people who don't even own the weapon.

Please don't turn this into a gun control topic... please.

At 12/14/12 07:33 PM, NuclearWarfare wrote: " boo hoo i guess killing innocent children will make up for the people that bullied me" -school shooters

Fucking logic.

We don't know if that was the reason yet, but I do agree.

Regardless, fucking CBS is airing celebrity tweets about the shooting... Why the flying fuck should I give a shit about what some idiot A-List celebrity said about this tragedy?

I hate celebrity gossip shows.

At 12/14/12 07:31 PM, Ceratisa wrote:

So you would rather people are stripped of the ability to defend themselves when people like this exist? Easy access? A lot of this is done by people who don't even own the weapon.

We manage fine in the UK by not carrying guns with us in order to 'feel safe'.

Ok sure, say they do not own the guns they use for mass shootings, but you cannot deny that it is far easier for them still to obtain these weapons, and not just little pea shooters, but proper rifles and such, much much easier than say me here.

Sorry America. This stuff just makes me so mad, and sad due it being children. Its just not right at all how anyone can be able to do that if they want to.