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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:06:52 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:03 AM, P0sitivity wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:02 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:
At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.
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Guns don't kill people, bad parents do.

Do middle schoolers get alcohol from the drugstore? Or do they get it from their parent's liquor stash? How do underage kids get cigarettes and drugs? Do they manufacture them? Or does a person make the decision to sell, give, or dose them with whatever they are looking for?


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:07:14 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, Travis wrote: I read the last few pages, but are you idiots really blaming autism for this?

Do any of you people blaming autism, even understand autism?

Anything to avoid the possibility guns might have had something to do with it, yes.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:07:31 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, Travis wrote: I read the last few pages, but are you idiots really blaming autism for this?

Do any of you people blaming autism, even understand autism?

This. Seriously guys. This.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:07:32 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: That picture is their reaction to Xenomit's dumba- to the content in Xenomit's post.

Like I said, it'd be different if he knew any better. If he had been a normal person, he'd be the only person at fault. Because he was autistic, his mom should have known better than to leave guns laying around the house.

It's not fucking rocket science.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:08:54 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:07 AM, Xenomit wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: That picture is their reaction to Xenomit's dumba- to the content in Xenomit's post.
Like I said, it'd be different if he knew any better. If he had been a normal person, he'd be the only person at fault. Because he was autistic, his mom should have known better than to leave guns laying around the house.

It's not fucking rocket science.

NO HE WASN'T. HE WAS INSANE.
Do people who say this even CONSIDER what they're implying?

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:08:58 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:07 AM, Xenomit wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: That picture is their reaction to Xenomit's dumba- to the content in Xenomit's post.
Like I said, it'd be different if he knew any better. If he had been a normal person, he'd be the only person at fault. Because he was autistic, his mom should have known better than to leave guns laying around the house.

It's not fucking rocket science.

I don't think you know what autism is, I think you should familiarize yourself with the subject before claiming that all autistic people given the chance will kill.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:11:15 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:09 AM, MuyBurrito wrote: Xenomit doesn't know anything about autism, he's just one of those people who likes to +1 post to fill up pages with unreadable bullshit.

No he's just using the condition as a scapegoat to avoid the possibility that guns might play some part in something nefarious as a killing spree. Plus a +1 post

THIS, THIS IS LOGICAL BUT YOU GUYS WILL IGNORE IT. THEYRE IGNORE IT THEY NEVER LISTEN

Well isn't the pot calling the kettle black

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:14:23 Reply

autismspeaks.org

Yes post to that site. :l
They're like PETA to autistic people. I mean, c'mon.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:14:50 Reply

Mic check one two one two

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:17:30 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:12 AM, MuyBurrito wrote: Whatever. Next time we hunt Mammoth, Xenomit doesn't get a slice.

Xenomit is to be exiled for his actions.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:19:48 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:07 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, Travis wrote: I read the last few pages, but are you idiots really blaming autism for this?

Do any of you people blaming autism, even understand autism?
Anything to avoid the possibility guns might have had something to do with it, yes.

You are just about my favourite user right now.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:25:39 Reply

Autism is a developmental disorder that appears in the first 3 years of life, and affects the brain's normal development of social and communication skills.

Social and communication skills encompass the ability to tell right from wrong.

Really newgrounds?

Ugh, why do I even try.

Not to mention I never said it wasn't the fault of guns. I said that guns shouldn't be, and wont be banned just because there are terrible people in the world.

Now not only do you not know what you're talking about, but you're putting things into context that were never there :|

Way to go on that.

At 12/16/12 01:19 AM, Gagsy wrote: You are just about my favourite user right now.

Because he's reinforcing your opinion?

So you like him because he's sucking your cock?

Not to mention that, again, I never said guns weren't at fault for this.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:29:41 Reply

At this point, I am unable to tell the difference between the troll and the trolled. Does this make me an aspie?


Science can't lie.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:31:00 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:02 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:
At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.
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my thoughts exactly

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:36:43 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:25 AM, Xenomit wrote:
Because he's reinforcing your opinion?

So you like him because he's sucking your cock?

Not to mention that, again, I never said guns weren't at fault for this.

Because they're not a giant tool when it comes to this subject and knows how to articulate their point so well that I feel stronger about my own views than ever before.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:37:03 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:19 AM, Gagsy wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:07 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:05 AM, Travis wrote: I read the last few pages, but are you idiots really blaming autism for this?

Do any of you people blaming autism, even understand autism?
Anything to avoid the possibility guns might have had something to do with it, yes.
You are just about my favourite user right now.

Shucks, well I'm just about certain the person I was arguing with is just a really bad troll who doesn't really mean anyone of what he said as he retracted on it in his previous post.

It is sad however probably a lot of Americans hold his views on guns and consider them a 'right.'

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:41:37 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:37 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: It is sad however probably a lot of Americans hold his views on guns and consider them a 'right.'

They are a right, and I'm more than willing to die for the right to keep them.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:41:37 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:40 AM, MuyBurrito wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:37 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: It is sad however probably a lot of Americans hold his views on guns and consider them a 'right.'
The reasoning for this is rather simplistic. American Citizens are a standing militia in and of themselves. We have the right to free speech, assembly, and to operate firearms for the protection of our natural rights.

I understand, 'muh freedom' I just disagree with it and see gun ownership doing a whole lot more harm than good.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:44:01 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:37 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: It is sad however probably a lot of Americans hold his views on guns and consider them a 'right.'

It is. A poorly regulated right, but still a right.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:44:05 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:41 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: I understand, 'muh freedom' I just disagree with it and see gun ownership doing a whole lot more harm than good.

There you go using stereotypical slurs again.

Like I said, I don't mind a lot of the anti-freedom stuff that goes on like weed being illegal, and certain states banning certain foods, but I will be damned if someone comes into my house and attempts to take anything of mine.

It just wont happen.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:44:21 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:41 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:
I understand, 'muh freedom' I just disagree with it and see gun ownership doing a whole lot more harm than good.

Pretty much, seeing as the rate of death from firearm injuries in the US is at more than 30,000 a year which exceeds the annual death rate in the present war in Syria.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:45:06 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:44 AM, Gagsy wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:41 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:
I understand, 'muh freedom' I just disagree with it and see gun ownership doing a whole lot more harm than good.
Pretty much, seeing as the rate of death from firearm injuries in the US is at more than 30,000 a year which exceeds the annual death rate in the present war in Syria.

MUH FREEEDOM

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:45:43 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:45 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: MUH FREEEDOM

You're too used to having a government telling you what to do


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:47:39 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:44 AM, MuyBurrito wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:41 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: I understand, 'muh freedom' I just disagree with it and see gun ownership doing a whole lot more harm than good.
More rationale: the victims should have had weapons for primary defense. There are never massacres at NRA meetings.

Arming school children with weapons to defend themselves from other people with weapons who plan on entering the school to do harm is a lot less simpler than just removing the gun threat altogether. I can imagine the playground fights now.

In America everyone, with a noncriminal or mentally ill background, is granted the right to own a weapon. However more gun related crimes are committed than applications of guns in self defense. You can look it up but I won't make you:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research /gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/index.html

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:48:21 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:44 AM, MuyBurrito wrote:
More rationale: the victims should have had weapons for primary defense. There are never massacres at NRA meetings.

I can see 'Peashooters for Toddlers' catching on there.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:48:31 Reply

At 12/16/12 12:59 AM, Psycho666 wrote:
Hey, read a little more Mr. I Kan Rite. The kid had devopmental problems, a personlity disorder, a pain disorder, a was unfit to be allowed the use of weaponry. THis actually was a case of bad parenting. Neglect to be specific.

People who own guns aren't wrong. Homeschool isn't wrong. Teaching your children to use guns is not wrong either.

When your son has autism, personality disorders, social withdrawal, and the inability to feel pain it is a little different. This was an issue about leaving unsecured weapons in a house with a kid who needed supervision.

What resulted was the kid decided he wanted to kill people, or possibly was driven to kill by compulsion. Given that he should have been supervised carefully, and was not, this could be argued as yet another reason why guns aren't sold to people with mental problems.

The weapons used were obtained from his mother's stash, used to kill his mother, all those kdis and teachers, and himself. He wasn't mentally fit to own a weapon, and the murders were the result.

I did read it dumb ass. Still the fact is parents who home school or are into guns are constantly being portrayed as bad parents. It isn't a recent thing, it's been going on for a long time. And shit like this just fuels it.

And people blaming autism for it?

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 01:57:46 Reply

Volatile, please marry me.

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 02:02:30 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:53 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:25 AM, Xenomit wrote: Autism is a developmental disorder that appears in the first 3 years of life, and affects the brain's normal development of social and communication skills.
Autism is a disorder of neural development characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior. The diagnostic criteria require that symptoms become apparent before a child is three years old. But you wouldn't really know that, would you?

You literally just said what I said in different words

Social and communication skills encompass the ability to tell right from wrong.
No they fucking don't, you idiot. That requires a lack of morality and/or empathy

Wrong

(Don't like how I just say you're wrong without giving any reason at all? Well, don't do the same thing)

Let's establish something solid here that I think everyone with a brain has already figured out by now but i'm going to let you know anyway.

You do not know what Autism is or the symptoms that it encompasses. This is not some exotic mental defect often found in psychopaths as you making it out to be.

Doesn't have to be. If you take two 15 year olds, put them in different rooms, and lay a loaded gun in the corner, the autistic kid is gonna be the first one to pick up the gun

Autism

Yes, I've already showed that I know what it is, you don't have to give me a sob story

Also stop dick riding the pro-guns side of the debate because you are not even trying to bring a compelling argument to the table and you're lying through your teeth when you say shit like, "firing 4 sniper bullets per second"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1918_Browning_Automatic_Rifle

It fires .30 caliber ammunition, which is a sniper class caliber, and it has a rate of fire ranging from 3-4 shots per second depending on the model and weather conditions

So please, shut up about things you know nothing about

Weren't you just attempting to dick ride Gagsy on page 15?

Not as far as I can recall, and I'm not going back to look.


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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 02:04:03 Reply

At 12/14/12 07:23 PM, Yert wrote: Hey, there are several threads on 4chan stating that the brother was a brony. Can anyone confirm?

A scapepony?

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Response to School shooting, 27 people dead 2012-12-16 02:07:12 Reply

At 12/16/12 01:50 AM, MuyBurrito wrote:
At 12/16/12 01:47 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: Arming school children
No. Teachers. Why does a Government delegate the responsibility of killing an active shooter to an outside entity, the police?

Because that's how it's done in countries where the people are civilized and don't tend to walk into schools with the intent of killing children? There's also a whole lot less gun crime in those places. Maybe America doesn't have it right for once, just maybe.

That's just asinine. Teachers should be armed, well trained, and ready to defend students. Many teachers are good marksmen, but are not allowed to carry in school, which makes them perfect targets.

Oh God damn, are you serious? Why should teachers have to carry guns? Because people with more guns might bust in the class?

Why do American teachers have to be more well armed than the average Somalian? As if a security guard and metal detectors in EVERY inner city school in America isn't bad enough you want school teachers in affluent suburbs be required to be strapped?

Why would you rather live under the constant threat of having fucking school children attacked versus just giving up guns all together? When is it enough?

When has MORE GUNS ever been a solution to violence, especially during times of peace within a nation.

You want freedom but at what cost, never having the freedom to step outside your house without worrying about the most basic freedom of life being stripped away from you?

You my friend, LOL.