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At 12/16/12 12:06 AM, dem0lecule wrote: Look down the list below, that's top 20. Tell me where is Canada? You want comprehend basic statistics?

Wow, you are so stupid its almost incromprehensible. For starters, "in comparison" was the term, which is very definitely true. Youre also implying Canada doesnt have a low gun rate in the stupidest way possible.

Here we go. Don't pull the population out as your dirty scapegoat? Japan and Germany has fucking hight populations. Why are they on that list?

Because they have an extremely anti-gun culture, partly due to culture changes after WW2.

Oh ho ho! Do you know that most Nordic and Scandinavian countries have fucking high gun owners? You see Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Switzerland and Germany on it? They both has very high statistic on gun owners. Where the fuck is Canada? No gun and low population.

A lot of people in the colder and more northern rural regions need guns because the wildlife isnt exactly controlled up there you know.

Tell me princess, do I have my nerve not-to call you an idiot?

Youre the idiot

At 12/16/12 12:10 AM, Xenomit wrote:

Yep. Taking everyone's guns by force is helping keep freedom intact.

What part of Liberty says that one has the right to own a semi automatic weapon?

At 12/16/12 12:13 AM, Gagsy wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:10 AM, Xenomit wrote:

Yep. Taking everyone's guns by force is helping keep freedom intact.

What part of Liberty says that one has the right to own a semi automatic weapon?

2nd amendment. Right to bear firearms. This includes any firearm.

How long do you think it will be before someone shoots up a church?

At 12/16/12 12:17 AM, kisame wrote: How long do you think it will be before someone shoots up a church?

5 and 1/2 months

At 12/16/12 12:18 AM, Sekhem wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:17 AM, kisame wrote: How long do you think it will be before someone shoots up a church?

5 and 1/2 months

I give it 3

At 12/16/12 12:17 AM, kisame wrote: How long do you think it will be before someone shoots up a church?

Everyday I wonder how the Westboro Baptist Church still remains intact. Seems like somebody would have attacked them by now.

At 12/16/12 12:16 AM, Xenomit wrote:

2nd amendment. Right to bear firearms. This includes any firearm.

At 12/16/12 12:20 AM, P0sitivity wrote: You are the dumbest person in this thread, only because all three of the sources you provided have only worked in your favor. This was the shittiest argument in thread.

My goal is to won the argument, that's the only point. Personal attack won't work on people like me, newfag.

Canada doesn't have the lowest crime rate! You're just as bad as the US even without guns! Look at these countries with guns, they're better than Canada!

I think it's time to log the fuck off.

And how about I say fuck no, bo ho. Do something.

At 12/16/12 12:20 AM, m0lecule wrote: Fact is fgun ownership in Germany is much looser than in Ca-fucking-nada.

What information do you have to support this so called "fact"?

So as Canada, do you know that northern and western Canada has loosest gun ownership law? And they have the lowest crime rate comparing to strict gun law in Ontario and Quebec? Do your fucking research before flaming bullcrap, mother fucker.

Why are you so... stupid fuck every muscle in body is tensing at the shit that you just typed. Like seriously? Fuck.

Why do you think the lower population areas have less strict gun control and less crime? Hmm, could it have something to do with the LOW POPULATION? Do you think it's less likely that an area like say, fucking North Dakota, would be a host to as serious criminals as New York City?

Can't even spell "You are". Now turned to personal flame war? I'll make you a whole, like I did to Insanctuary and Revo357912.

I'll turn this to a scene for the police to come investigate.

At 12/16/12 12:23 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:20 AM, m0lecule wrote: to as serious criminals as New York City?

Can't even spell "You are". Now turned to personal flame war? I'll make you a whole, like I did to Insanctuary and Revo357912.

I'll turn this to a scene for the police to come investigate.

No, you won't. This is ending. Dissagree all you want but if I see more personal attacks in here you're taking a break

At 12/16/12 12:19 AM, Wagggs wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:17 AM, kisame wrote: How long do you think it will be before someone shoots up a church?

Everyday I wonder how the Westboro Baptist Church still remains intact. Seems like somebody would have attacked them by now.

give it time.

At 12/16/12 12:23 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:20 AM, m0lecule wrote: Fact is fgun ownership in Germany is much looser than in Ca-fucking-nada.

What information do you have to support this so called "fact"?

Jeez, how fucking idiot are you? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=germany+gun+ownership
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada

Why do you think the lower population areas have less strict gun control and less crime? Hmm, could it have something to do with the LOW POPULATION? Do you think it's less likely that an area like say, fucking North Dakota, would be a host to as serious criminals as New York City?

You still haven't tell me why Germany has lower homicidal rate despite the fact it has lower gun control and higher population. And someone is calling me an idiot? Hmm.

Can't even spell "You are". Now turned to personal flame war? I'll make you a whole, like I did to Insanctuary and Revo357912.

I'll turn this to a scene for the police to come investigate.

Go ahead, you are part of the game. And grow the fuck up, this is the internet, bitch.

You still haven't tell me why Germany has lower homicidal rate despite the fact it has lower gun control and higher population. And someone is calling me an idiot? Hmm.

A lot of people in the colder and more northern rural regions need guns because the wildlife isnt exactly controlled up there you know.

Neither country is even close to the US in terms of gun related crime.

It seems in the area of the world where there are the most guns people like to use them.

I wasn't just talking to those two. Name calling and general douchebaggery are staying out of this now. Like I said, by all means, keep disagreeing. But don't make it personal

Stay classy, NG.

At 12/16/12 12:37 AM, stafffighter wrote: I wasn't just talking to those two. Name calling and general douchebaggery are staying out of this now. Like I said, by all means, keep disagreeing. But don't make it personal

I'm done, I think the entire right argument consisted of calling me a bitch/kid/slut/etc. to begin with so there's not much to continue to contribute.

It was suggested that I moved my "heap of nonsense" into this thread. So here it goes.

I know you guys love to say it is an issue with gun ownership, people having too many rights, and killers just gotta kill, but, how many of you figured out that the kid who killed all those kids, his mother, and six teachers, was an autistic kid? His disorder was so pronounced that he was born without the ability to feel pain. There was also an accompanying personality disorder.

I have a source too. Heres the poop

Given that you see that I am not bullshitting, I want to ask the real question now. This wasn't a healthy individual. This kid was sick, mentally, and needed help. Instead, his mother enjoyed guns, and her son was allowed to use them. Given the facts, would it not be correct to classify this as criminal neglect? Keeping unsecured weaponry, including an assault rifle, two pistols, and a shotgun, in a house with a mentally disturbed, immune to pain, and socially withdrawn kid?

Maybe a simpler question. Would you let an autistic kid use your weapon? Would you trust him or her to use it? Because this is simply what happened.

A mentally disabled child was allowed access to weaponry, which is the only way he could acquire the weapons. He went and committed a mass murder and killed himself because his mother allowed him to use her weapons. Not because he bought a gun. This was neglect.

Be honest. Which of you knew he was mentally handicapped before reading this and deciding you knew what was going on? This never could have happened if his mother didn't let him play with guns.

Figures:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/shooter-mystery-neighbor s-former-classmates-215811657.html

It's clear from articles like this that the media and other people are trying to blame not only guns, video games, etc., for stuff like this, they're trying to pin it on home schooling also.
Anybody who thinks people who home school and/or are into guns make bad parents is a worthless piece of shit that needs to remove themselves from the gene pool.

At 12/16/12 12:48 AM, Psycho666 wrote: Legit points

They wont listen to you, they'll just find another reason it's the fault of guns.

At 12/16/12 12:54 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:48 AM, Psycho666 wrote: Legit points

They wont listen to you, they'll just find another reason it's the fault of guns.

No one claimed it was the fault of guns? Just thought guns made it a hell of a lot easier.

He obviously had issues besides owning a gun.

At 12/16/12 12:55 AM, P0sitivity wrote: No one claimed it was the fault of guns? Just thought guns made it a hell of a lot easier.

He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.

He obviously had issues besides owning a gun.

Being autistic. And he didn't own any gun of any kind. His mom did.

At 12/16/12 12:55 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote: http://www.examiner.com/article/morgan-freeman-on-adam-lanza

Morgan Freeman nails it, the media coverage was fucking atrocious.
Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4

At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: Being autistic. And he didn't own any gun of any kind. His mom did.

We can only pray that guns are no longer as easily accessible to the disturbed and the youth.

At 12/16/12 12:51 AM, wildfire4461 wrote: Figures:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/shooter-mystery-neighbor s-former-classmates-215811657.html

It's clear from articles like this that the media and other people are trying to blame not only guns, video games, etc., for stuff like this, they're trying to pin it on home schooling also.
Anybody who thinks people who home school and/or are into guns make bad parents is a worthless piece of shit that needs to remove themselves from the gene pool.

Hey, read a little more Mr. I Kan Rite. The kid had devopmental problems, a personlity disorder, a pain disorder, a was unfit to be allowed the use of weaponry. THis actually was a case of bad parenting. Neglect to be specific.

People who own guns aren't wrong. Homeschool isn't wrong. Teaching your children to use guns is not wrong either.

When your son has autism, personality disorders, social withdrawal, and the inability to feel pain it is a little different. This was an issue about leaving unsecured weapons in a house with a kid who needed supervision.

What resulted was the kid decided he wanted to kill people, or possibly was driven to kill by compulsion. Given that he should have been supervised carefully, and was not, this could be argued as yet another reason why guns aren't sold to people with mental problems.

The weapons used were obtained from his mother's stash, used to kill his mother, all those kdis and teachers, and himself. He wasn't mentally fit to own a weapon, and the murders were the result.

He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.

Yeah and i'm the Queen of England.

At 12/16/12 01:02 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.

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Guns don't kill people, bad parents do.

At 12/16/12 01:02 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.

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I'll assume you're implying that he could have gotten the idea to commit the crime from the internet? You did show an angry looking dude using a computer. Unless you're blaming porn. Shame on you if you are.

At 12/16/12 01:02 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.

Yes, the only person at fault is the parent.

No, and I mean no, autistic person could ever get a gun on their own, and because the parent left the guns out, lots of kids died.

It'd be different if he were a normal person, and could think straight, but he was autistic.

At 12/16/12 01:04 AM, Psycho666 wrote:

At 12/16/12 01:02 AM, MonthlyVolatile wrote:

At 12/16/12 12:57 AM, Xenomit wrote: He was autistic. The only one at fault was the parent.

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I'll assume you're implying that he could have gotten the idea to commit the crime from the internet? You did show an angry looking dude using a computer. Unless you're blaming porn. Shame on you if you are.

That picture is their reaction to Xenomit's dumba- to the content in Xenomit's post.