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Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 03:13 AM Reply

Fast food workers have been going on a strike in New York and they seem to be picking up steam.

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They say that the wage that they are paid is not enough for them and their families to live on and demand more pay. They are tired of being treated with no respect and being underpaid.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 03:31 AM Reply

The negative response to this would be to say that they're feeling entitled to higher wages, despite having a job that requires next to no human capitol.
The positive response to this would be to say that they're feeling entitled to higher wages, despite having a job that requires next to no human capitol.

This is of course sans hyperbole. I'm sure improvements can be made on either end, and if this is a big issue for them, then more power to them to pursue it.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 03:36 AM Reply

Don't pretend there aren't people willing to take their place.

Better? Probably not. Willing? You betcha.

I'd like a raise, but I don't think putting my job at risk with a bunch of other people would do a goddamn thing.

Hopefully their actions sweep the nation and everyone gets a raise, but this could be a bloody blow to unemployment rate if everyone finds themselves jobless..


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 03:42 AM Reply

At 12/10/12 03:36 AM, DarkMatter wrote:
Hopefully their actions sweep the nation and everyone gets a raise, but this could be a bloody blow to unemployment rate if everyone finds themselves jobless..

Firing people who want a better wage and more rights isn't exactly a good look. Most places don't want to end up looking like Papa Johns.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 04:31 AM Reply

At 12/10/12 03:42 AM, Cootie wrote:
At 12/10/12 03:36 AM, DarkMatter wrote:
Hopefully their actions sweep the nation and everyone gets a raise, but this could be a bloody blow to unemployment rate if everyone finds themselves jobless..
Firing people who want a better wage and more rights isn't exactly a good look. Most places don't want to end up looking like Papa Johns.

That's true, but ultimately it's about money.

Companies are only sympathetic to their case as long as money is involved, hence the reason why the strike has to be so massive for it to even raise an eyebrow. Unfortunately for all these people, the companies they work for can most likely outlast them financially, making the effort that much more futile IMO.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 04:32 AM Reply

They chose that line of work knowing it's a minimum wage job. If you want something better, educate yourself.

And for those who say "no jobs", you're so fucking wrong. People just don't want to put forth the effort anymore because the jobs that use to may say 100k a year now pays 50k. They think they're better off doing nothing at all. I can't tell you how many jobs that need filling in places like Honeywell, American Express, Banks, etc. All good paying jobs of 30-100k a year. No one meets their qualifications, it's like no one wants to spend the time in school anymore and get what they earned.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 05:45 AM Reply

$7.75/hour working at a Manhattan KFC for 8 years is considered stunningly low here. That's only 50 cents above the state minimum wage, and nowhere near the amount you need to make to live comfortably in NYC. When you consider that many of these people have no benefits, work less (often far less) than 40 hours a week, may be called in at any given time...that lifestyle really really sucks.

$8.75/hour for being a McDonald's shift manager is also stunningly low.

In the end, I'm not sure where this will ultimately get the workers. I doubt they'll get a raise up to $15/hour like they want, because part of what may drive that is higher food and drink prices. No one wants that.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 06:24 AM Reply

At 12/10/12 04:32 AM, Shauna wrote: They chose that line of work knowing it's a minimum wage job. If you want something better, educate yourself.

Hard to educate yourself whenever you have to work forty or more hours a week just to pay the bills. Then on top of that you have stuff to do around the house and possibly raise kids and things such as that. It would be overwhelming. I don't think people should have to go to college to have a job where they are treated with respect.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 06:25 AM Reply

At 12/10/12 05:45 AM, GoryBlizzard wrote: I doubt they'll get a raise up to $15/hour like they want, because part of what may drive that is higher food and drink prices. No one wants that.

lmfao that is not going to happen

anyways, if you're undereducated, why not work in the oilfield, carbon black plant, or some other labor intensive job where you make 15$+ an hour with no education? they're just lazy


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 06:40 AM Reply

I am in favor of a good strike, this one seems like it fits the bill. It is impossible to afford any sort of housing on basic minimum wage, and that the ratio of CEO pay to employee pay in america is about 400:1. I have to say I'm in favor.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 07:30 AM Reply

Fast food work requires next to no skill which is why so many young people and foreigners are employed in the industry.

Notice how black people and women are pictured. Big surprise there's so much self entitlement going on

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 07:54 AM Reply

I support the strike, less fast food is better.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:29 AM Reply

Fast food outlets have some of the worst service I've ever been exposed to. Remember to leave the mayo out the burger and maybe I'll be more inclined to support your cause you stupid bastards.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 08:50 PM Reply

If fast food workers want to make more money, they should a) get my fucking order right, b) not give me an attitude if I ask for something like napkins. There are exceptions, of course, but a lot of folks in minimum wage positions are lazy, entitled assholes. I worked in the occasional minimum wage job to make money during summers in college, and those losers were more the exception than the rule. I wish there were some sort of merit system so that people in those positions who actually were good at their work and gave a damn could be promoted/commended. The way everything is set up now though, everyone is lumped together

I understand the idea of a living wage, but $15 an hour isn't going to happen. Nobody is going to pay $10 for a Big Mac. Minimum wage jobs are minimum for a reason. They're starter positions. You're not supposed to stay there. If you're 40 and still working the drive-thru window, that's your own goddamn fault. If you want something better in life, you either get an education or you get into a field where your skills are in high demand.

Anyone ever notice a lot of the folks working those jobs have useless degrees, like in music or art history? That's a topic for another thread though.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:02 PM Reply

If people don't like their job's conditions, then fucking quit.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:29 PM Reply

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:33 PM Reply

it's their fault for working there.

if they want a higher paid job, they got to work more.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:37 PM Reply

This is good for Americans, it means they have an opportunity to lose some weight.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:40 PM Reply

I'm upper middle class, lower upper lass at best, this worries me none


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:42 PM Reply

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:57 PM Reply

At 12/10/12 06:25 AM, Sekhem wrote:
At 12/10/12 05:45 AM, GoryBlizzard wrote: I doubt they'll get a raise up to $15/hour like they want, because part of what may drive that is higher food and drink prices. No one wants that.
lmfao that is not going to happen

anyways, if you're undereducated, why not work in the oilfield, carbon black plant, or some other labor intensive job where you make 15$+ an hour with no education? they're just lazy

Well they don't have resources to go to where ever the nearest oil/natural gas fields are it's probably $300 one way from NYC to North Dakota flying and to get there by driving is probably more expensive and if they're only making $8 an hour with little chance at overtime $300 would be hard if not impossible to come by once all your other expenses are taken into account, however NYC does have a bunch of industrial area, as whether or not any of them are hiring or planning to hire is something i don't have knowledge of.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 09:58 PM Reply

At 12/10/12 09:57 PM, All-American-Badass wrote: Well they don't have resources to go to where ever the nearest oil/natural gas fields are

Industrial jobs also tend to be dangerous in addition to labor intensive.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 10:02 PM Reply

"Boo-hoo, I don't make enough money at my fast food job".

Maybe they should have paid attention in high school. Nevertheless, I do support unions. I'm signature #20,892.

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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 10:48 PM Reply

Ah, how did I know this thread would be full of people blathering on about "entitlement," breathlessly defending the interests of multibillion dollar corporations at the expense of normal people trying to get by, and generally displaying total ignorance of how the job market, the economy, and real life in general actually work. Bleh, you guys suck.

At 12/10/12 04:31 AM, DarkMatter wrote: Unfortunately for all these people, the companies they work for can most likely outlast them financially, making the effort that much more futile IMO.

I doubt that they're trying to outlast them financially; like you said, that'd be impossible. They just need to last long enough to put a serious dent in the companies' PR. It might not seem like it effects much directly, but companies are very seriously concerned with their public image, and nobody wants the media making them look like Mr. Burns.

At 12/10/12 04:32 AM, Shauna wrote: They chose that line of work knowing it's a minimum wage job. If you want something better, educate yourself.

What an absolute load of shit. You say "educate yourself" as though anyone can just up and get a college degree as long as they want it. A college education costs an enormous amount of money and a substantial input of time. Getting a degree while also working enough to pay for basic needs and bills and school isn't just difficult, it's often outright impossible, especially when you factor in kids and other family members and domestic tasks to take care of.

At 12/10/12 08:50 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: If fast food workers want to make more money, they should a) get my fucking order right, b) not give me an attitude if I ask for something like napkins. There are exceptions, of course, but a lot of folks in minimum wage positions are lazy, entitled assholes.

I read an interesting book by this historian about (among other things) colonial slave resistance where in the intro the author talks about how he used to work at McDonalds and how he and his coworkers would be lazy/loud/rude/violate dress codes/steal shit because on some level it was the only means they had of pushing back against their terrible working conditions.

It sucks that that kind of behavior sometimes gets unfairly taken out on the customer, but I can still empathize with it. People keep derisively sneering about "entitlement" in this thread, but there are some things that everyone really ought to be entitled to in their job, and dignity is one of them. Look at the wages and conditions most fast food workers are working under, and how they're typically treated by both management and customers, and tell me if you think they're afforded an acceptable level of dignity in their jobs.

At 12/10/12 06:25 AM, Sekhem wrote: anyways, if you're undereducated, why not work in the oilfield, carbon black plant, or some other labor intensive job where you make 15$+ an hour with no education? they're just lazy

Oh yeah, how could we forget about all the lucrative opportunities for oilfield work in the inner city...


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 10:48 PM Reply

How about they get an education and get reputable jobs?


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 10th, 2012 @ 11:51 PM Reply

While I'm somewhat sympathetic towards their cause, {since I did work at a fast food joint for a while} I can't really imagine that this will go anywhere in terms of what these striking fast food workers want. Hopefully, they don't turn into another version of OWS in where you have the career protesters, hippies and the ignorant latch on the bandwagon and hijack the whole message in a cloud of smoke and smells of human waste everywhere.

Fast food workers don't really get paid that much, considering that these are often the easiest jobs out there, {which is why you see so many young people work there.} and have a pretty high turnover rate. Not to mention that the service generally tends to vary from restaurant to restaurant, and the obvious problems of not getting the order right, or simply missing something that the customer wanted. As I said before, I have some sympathy for these guys, working in loud, shitty conditions through much of the day/night, 5-6 days a week, but this will probably go nowhere, and the critics would simply write this up as entitlement.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 11th, 2012 @ 12:03 AM Reply

Of course they don't feel like they're getting paid enough, they live in New York.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 11th, 2012 @ 12:08 AM Reply

If the government does its job there is no need for unions.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 11th, 2012 @ 12:15 AM Reply

I feel as it is they're being paid more than they deserve. They should be happy they even get money when they're screwing up 1 out of every 3 orders.


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Response to Fast Food Workers Strike Dec. 11th, 2012 @ 12:16 AM Reply

At 12/10/12 03:13 AM, Cootie wrote: support unions, they are the only thing that protect your worker rights.

So, since I'm getting a decent education, have a fairly wealthy and hardworking family, and plan to go into a career field with high demand, shouldn't I oppose unions? More importantly, we're already paying them more than the world market price for labor, so won't this worsen unemployment?


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