At 10/29/12 08:05 AM, SkeletonSoldier wrote:
What.....? If you read anything I said earlier,then you would know I feel that the mom is responsible as well. I'm not saying she shouldn't be charged,I just said it shouldn't be so severe. I am looking at the bigger picture,she made a mistake and it was a horrible one that I do not condone. I like how this story turns into something about you,good for you you're smart nd intelligent and openly communicated with your family. Maybe she couldn't her mom was in obvious denial. No I try to understand where people come from,because it's important to acknowledge and learn from people's pasts and about the variables that make people turn out the way they are. Its significant to criminology,psychology and the welfare of humanity to understand why hese situations come about and to prevent these events from occuring. Who says I don't have life figured out? Have you not heard of Maslows Hierarchy of needs,self actualization is at the very top. This is when we work beyond ourselves to help others due to the fact we are content with ourselves.
Her mother neglected her daughter, ignored an important issue and is in no shape to raise a child. Cost an infant's life, a severely retarded daughter that still has enough cognition and sanity to make her own unretarded decisions, and you want them to have only a little bit of punishment? This was all avoidable; now they should suffer the consequences. I may have killed my cat when I was 10, but at the time I was truly not prepared for what came my way. I also had so many other choices I could've taken to ruin my life, but I never did. When I killed my cat, I made it my responsibility to face the reality of what I've done, forgive myself for it, and never repeat the same mistake. I faced it; the mother and the duaghter are NOT taking responsibility for their already horrific actions. They are no good, and should be punished for being scum bags -- period. There is a moment where you can defend yourself, but they aren't even trying. They are just inconsiderate waste of living space.
I am not saying she shouldn't have any responsibility,I'm saying she shouldn't be tripled as an adult and needs help.
Maybe you're not looking at the bigger picture to realize,this is still a life. She us 14 and barely experienced the world around her. There is nothing wrong with utilitarianism,I want the best outcome and I do not wish this child extreme suffering. It's called empathy. I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished.
She needs help, but she also needs to face the consenquences because she was well aware of what she has done. She obviously was hiding her pregnancy and the baby in a shoe box; this obviously shows she knew it was not right. She did nothing about it and only coward her way out just like her mother and father.
People need to try and figure out what makes criminals,sociopaths tick and what leads into these events as a form of prevention. Looking for distinct patterns and what variables contribute to mental disorders and disorderly conduct. Also so that people become aware of certain traits or qualities presented in other people. I am not claiming to be anything,I am no saint. There are plenty of good people that come from the bad walks of life,I'm not saying every abused person turns out as a criminal. I'm saying that it is a factor that contributes. This girl has extreme issues and is obviously not sound of mind,I think she needs help but I'm not saying her or her parents shouldn't be persecuted.
You are being morally supressed, therefore your logic is degrading itself. You are being way too personal about this 14 year old and her mother to see the big picture. You are being subjective; I'm being objective and telling you like it is. I assure you, I know sociopaths and why they do the things they do far more than you do. I already know the factors, I am well aware of all of the psychological roles that play into someone's actions. This girl and her mother needs to face some kind of tension so that way they can reflect off their problems for good. Like I'd said, there are people who've gone through worse and still did not do what the 14 year did.