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Smoker problems 2012-10-27 19:27:49 Reply

I quit smoking cigarettes.

So I bought a rechargeable e-cig.

Now I smoke 3 times as much because now I can smoke anywhere 24/7. Recently I researched the side-effects of e-cigs, and I discovered that although they're not as bad as traditional cigarettes, it still ain't good.

Has anyone here ever found themselves in this situation before?


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-27 19:30:47 Reply

No, I just stopped smoking. Simple as that.

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-27 19:31:20 Reply

Nah, enjoy your cancer.

jk piggler ur cool m8 good luck mate

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-27 19:31:57 Reply

I remember you posting a "I'm going to quit smoking" thread awhile back. I honestly doubted you'd actually pull it off as having several smoking relatives, I'm well-aware that smoking is a damn hard thing to quit.

Congratz, man!


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-27 19:44:01 Reply

I don't smoke.


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-27 20:19:53 Reply

YEAHHHHHHHHHHH 1 time i overdosed on these ciggys and i was like dying and yeah you know ever happen you know

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-27 20:32:15 Reply

Yeah those e-cigs are bad news.

Makes smoking way too much fun.


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 04:48:40 Reply

the damage has been done, the risk of overdose is real, you are inhaling propylene glycol with it

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 05:06:26 Reply

My only problem with smoking has been after running, my lungs feeling as though they were on fire or stabbed with hundreds of needles. Which was my biggest reason to give it up, just wasn't worth it.

At 10/31/12 04:48 AM, NOTunowned wrote: the damage has been done, the risk of overdose is real, you are inhaling propylene glycol with it

And every day we munch on medicines we don't know shit about. Dayquil, nyquil, chest decongestant, half a bottle of asprin, enough fish oil pills to shit grease for days, the list goes on. As with most people, if someone just handed me medicine after I told them my symptoms, I'd take it without researching the medicine. We munch and guzzle shit that isn't good for us every day.


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 05:10:16 Reply

these drugs have clinical trials and research, they don't contain the mutagens, carcinogens, radioactive polonium and lead like tobacco does

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid#Functions

educate yourself, take the reccomended amount

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 05:28:55 Reply

They're a million billion times safer than cigarettes. I don't know why health nazis have set themselves so strongly against e-cigs when they're phenomenally safer than the alternative.

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 07:02:29 Reply

I stopped smoking cigarettes a long time and had no problems with it. Then again, I didn't stop smoking up, so maybe that made things easier. But I'm fairly certain I could quit weed easily.


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 07:18:41 Reply

At 10/31/12 05:28 AM, Earfetish wrote: They're a million billion times safer than cigarettes. I don't know why health nazis have set themselves so strongly against e-cigs when they're phenomenally safer than the alternative.

What an educated, smart response. I'm gonna willingly take my chance with your advice and avoid my doctor's advice who actually have a fucking degree in this shit. You changed my life to the best.

While esigs aren't as bad as normal cigs. They ARE pretty hazardous to health as they can cause nicotine poisoning and addiction. They're only described temporary for people who have a hard time of quitting their smoking habit.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2009/2 009_53-eng.php

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 07:34:58 Reply

At 10/31/12 07:18 AM, RyanBustersword123 wrote: While esigs aren't as bad as normal cigs. They ARE pretty hazardous to health as they can cause nicotine poisoning and addiction.

Your link contains no suggestion that smoking an e-cig will cause nicotine poisoning when used properly and the warning is quite clearly talking about children eating the cartridges. Addiction is not a health hazard intrinsically (see addiction to caffeine). Don't know why you thought you could get away with talking nonsense.

They're only described temporary for people who have a hard time of quitting their smoking habit.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/_2009/2 009_53-eng.php

Smoking an e-cig 10 times a day for 30 years is far less likely to give you cancer than inhaling burning plant matter that has been treated with radioactive pesticides 10 times a day for 30 years. E-cigs are clearly marketed towards smokers who want a safer alternative to tobacco combustion, they're not sold as a tool for people who want to start smoking. The hazard they pose to health is almost insignificant compared with the hazards posed to health by actual cigarettes.

So I stand by my comment.

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 08:48:22 Reply

At 10/31/12 07:34 AM, Earfetish wrote: Your link contains no suggestion that smoking an e-cig will cause nicotine poisoning when used properly and the warning is quite clearly talking about children eating the cartridges. Addiction is not a health hazard intrinsically (see addiction to caffeine).

After rereading that article you're right. But it's still a health concern if overdosed or misused. Which could happen if you're addicted to e-cigs. An electronic cigarette can contain as much nicotine as a regular cigarette (If not more that is) which can be really addictive (see OP).

Don't know why you thought you could get away with talking nonsense.

Looks like our thoughts are mutual then.

Smoking an e-cig 10 times a day for 30 years is far less likely to give you cancer than inhaling burning plant matter that has been treated with radioactive pesticides 10 times a day for 30 years. E-cigs are clearly marketed towards smokers who want a safer alternative to tobacco combustion, they're not sold as a tool for people who want to start smoking.

That's an interesting point of view... But you should know that some e-sig cartridges actually come with flavors such as mint and chocolate. It might get someone influenced to start smoking.

The hazard they pose to health is almost insignificant compared with the hazards posed to health by actual cigarettes.

It's more of a 1:1000 scale on cancer according to some sources. But as I said, e-cigs are still health hazardous products due to nicotine. Here's also a little something I happen to find just now, I'm not sure by what claims they are backed though but you should skim through them:
http://www.primehealthchannel.com/electronic-cigarette-dange rs-and-side-effects.html

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 10:07:59 Reply

smoking is stupid

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 12:15:28 Reply

I have thought about e-cigs before, but I find that people who smoke them usually become asses. "Oh this isn't a REAL cigarette, I can smoke ANYWHERE I want!" I think just quiting is your best bet to be healthy.


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 12:22:17 Reply

I use to smoke ANALOG CIGARETTES before. Now I use ELECTRONIC CIGS. It has been more than a year now. As far as health is concern I feel more healthy now. I never have to experience hyper acidity, heart burn, and palpitations anymore. Never again. I feel I am so ALIVE!

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 12:43:17 Reply

16 more days and it's been 2 years without cigarettes for me.

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 13:48:08 Reply

Man up and stop smoking completely.


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 13:49:49 Reply

At 10/27/12 08:32 PM, funnyman46 wrote: Yeah those e-cigs are bad news.

Makes smoking way too much fun.

That's idiotic. E-cigs aren't any more damaging then the medicines you already shove into your body every time you feel a little sick. Much better than smoking real cigarettes at any rate.

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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 13:57:53 Reply

the only people i've seen with e-cigs are kids who thought it was even more cool if they could smoke in class


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Response to Smoker problems 2012-10-31 14:06:57 Reply

At 10/31/12 01:57 PM, TurkeyBased wrote: the only people i've seen with e-cigs are kids who thought it was even more cool if they could smoke in class

This made me lol in particular, no idea why >> .......

Anyways, a few myth-busting pointers for any e-cig nubs out there.

E-Cigs are NOT a quitting aid. They are an alternative means of getting a nicotein fix. Anyone who starts using them to help 'quit' smoking is a fool as you're swapping one habit for another which is not too dissimilar and will make quitting just as or close to as hard as cold turkey.

E-Cigs are not LEGAL to smoke indoors or anywhere, they're simply just not illegal. This means you can happily puff away in your car, in your office etc but some e-cig smokers seem to get a kick out of announcing to everyone in the office/restaurant/bus/waterver that they are perfectly entitled to support their cancer causing habit right in everyone's face.

Finally, E-Cigs are not 'cool' in the slightest. They're another alternative to a habit which causes death, similar to methadone for heroin (but perhaps not that extreme)

Anyways, on to my personal opinion on them. Yes, they contain less poisons/toxins etc but they're not helping anyone's habit. I'm thinking of switching to one not to quit but to save money. Here in the UK the government thinks that the last two vices that are still legal can be taxed to death under the fig branch of 'promoting a healthier lifestyle', but in reality bank rolling the NHS and the Treasury's underperformance on tax reciepts.


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