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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 09:39 AM Reply

Argh, this contest provided me with the perfect excuse to write some baroque instead of spending time on what I should be writing. Which on the other hand means I'm in after all!

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 11:40 AM Reply

Guys, unfortunately, I have to sit this one out.
I was well into a third of my piece, but Kingdom of Herts had our first recording sesh in a while, and their work comes first. We've been putting off our songs for a while now, and I must take care of these matters.

To those of you who are participating, all the best.


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 01:16 PM Reply

At 11/5/12 11:40 AM, TroisNyxEtienne wrote: Guys, unfortunately, I have to sit this one out.

Well thats a big casualty for the contest :/


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 04:56 PM Reply

At 11/5/12 01:16 PM, DivoFST wrote:
At 11/5/12 11:40 AM, TroisNyxEtienne wrote: Guys, unfortunately, I have to sit this one out.
Well thats a big casualty for the contest :/

Aww, this is sad news...

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 05:31 PM Reply

At 11/5/12 04:56 PM, m0lecule wrote:
At 11/5/12 01:16 PM, DivoFST wrote:
At 11/5/12 11:40 AM, TroisNyxEtienne wrote: Guys, unfortunately, I have to sit this one out.
Well thats a big casualty for the contest :/
Aww, this is sad news...

:(

I was waiting for my mind to be blown and myself to once again fall into despair due to listening to your music too much! :(...


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 06:05 PM Reply

sorry guys im also not competing because i dont have paypal and i dont want to win money either anyway.


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 06:12 PM Reply

At 11/5/12 05:31 PM, samulis wrote:
At 11/5/12 04:56 PM, m0lecule wrote:
At 11/5/12 01:16 PM, DivoFST wrote:
At 11/5/12 11:40 AM, TroisNyxEtienne wrote: Guys, unfortunately, I have to sit this one out.
Well thats a big casualty for the contest :/
Aww, this is sad news...
(
I was waiting for my mind to be blown and myself to once again fall into despair due to listening to your music too much! :(...

There's still better news though: if you liked Propter Te during my NGADM run, you'd probably like this new song Kingdom of Herts has got, the one which I'm mixing at the moment. But good heavens, that's taking me a while.


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 06:39 PM Reply

Alright I'm going to try taking part.

One day left, an average of 5 hours of Maths homework every day, school for 9 hours, and I've only barely started. I hope a miracle happens.


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 07:06 PM Reply

I try to get as many classical circle-jerks participate in this contest as possible... lulz.

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 5th, 2012 @ 09:22 PM Reply

At 11/4/12 11:54 PM, WizMystery wrote: Speaking of I uploaded the minimal part of my Rhapsody (which I split up) but I have a chase scene in the works (said atonal mess). Do you prefer melancholy or suspense, Bosa?

I'll listen to just about anything as long as it's done correctly. If you put as much effort as possible into your song and you don't jack around, you'll win this contest for sure. I'm looking for something that has captured your emotion and is self-evident of the effort and passion you've poured into your work.


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 03:53 PM Reply

I'm actually MAKING something. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND BAD.

But I've got a long night ahead of me... when exactly is the deadline time-wise? Noon or something?


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 04:30 PM Reply

At 11/5/12 09:22 PM, Bosa wrote: I'll listen to just about anything as long as it's done correctly. If you put as much effort as possible into your song and you don't jack around, you'll win this contest for sure. I'm looking for something that has captured your emotion and is self-evident of the effort and passion you've poured into your work.

Then you're a better observer than most.

I'll probably be updating my submission before the deadline.

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 09:26 PM Reply

At 11/4/12 12:16 AM, samulis wrote: No one else is writing theirs in Db Major? Aww...

Why does it matter what keys we write in? Yeah, there are some characteristics that different keys and tonal centers have, but really the only reason why changing a key would be for the purposes of live players, playability, and sound quality.

You should know though that keys change with transposing instruments like horns, trumpets, and even those that are transposed up an octave on the score like the contrabass.

Some keys make it so brass players have to use more valve keys, weakening their intonation and limiting some potential compositionally that is playable, even in samples a key can change how an instrument sounds. Enharmonics can screw up so many things.

Also, if you write your piece in B, you can have the harp written in Cb so that the harp pedal diagram would look like this

Db Cb Bb | Eb Fb Gb Ab

When all the harp pedals are up, they are more lose and make for better resonance. I usually end up writing harp music in a different key just to get a better sound from the harp.

I've also found myself writing in some sort of E tonality/centricity (12-tone lingo here) since most lower brass instruments can't go any lower than that, and sometimes I want a piece that has the lowest playable notes for brass. Contrabass players might not have the low C extension which EWQL and other libraries spoil us with.

Mines in Ebmaj :)


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 10:24 PM Reply

At 11/6/12 09:26 PM, deadlyfishes wrote:
At 11/4/12 12:16 AM, samulis wrote: No one else is writing theirs in Db Major? Aww...
Why does it matter what keys we write in? Yeah, there are some characteristics that different keys and tonal centers have, but really the only reason why changing a key would be for the purposes of live players, playability, and sound quality.

You should know though that keys change with transposing instruments like horns, trumpets, and even those that are transposed up an octave on the score like the contrabass.

Some keys make it so brass players have to use more valve keys, weakening their intonation and limiting some potential compositionally that is playable, even in samples a key can change how an instrument sounds. Enharmonics can screw up so many things.

Also, if you write your piece in B, you can have the harp written in Cb so that the harp pedal diagram would look like this

Db Cb Bb | Eb Fb Gb Ab

When all the harp pedals are up, they are more lose and make for better resonance. I usually end up writing harp music in a different key just to get a better sound from the harp.

I've also found myself writing in some sort of E tonality/centricity (12-tone lingo here) since most lower brass instruments can't go any lower than that, and sometimes I want a piece that has the lowest playable notes for brass. Contrabass players might not have the low C extension which EWQL and other libraries spoil us with.

Mines in Ebmaj :)

lol... I was making a joke regarding the number of flats... and there's no need to explain harp pedal diagrams and the complexities of composing for harpists, I have the bite marks to prove I've had my time writing for a harpist. :P

Keys are irrelevant, once again, I was making a joke that most would write in a more popular key, however.

Regarding low notes for brass, I can hit a low F (the one below the one below the staff... FFF would be grand staff notation if I remember that from theory all those years ago, eh?) on my bass trombone, and tubas seem to be easily capable of 8vb that. Brass are designed to live and thrive in the range of F Major to Db Major and their relative minors with a fair sound (give us C or any sharp key and those B naturals will sound just ducky!). With the way trombone designs are going, I'm seeing more F trigger attachments and more wide-bore tenors (half-basses), so it seems the designers are expecting larger ranges into the lower end!

and there's no need to get into non-standard keys unless you are expecting your harp part to not be diatonic, in which case I recommend the kevlar vest unless you know your performer is a virtuoso and doesn't know where you live.

How are contest entries goin', guys?


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 10:32 PM Reply

At 11/6/12 10:24 PM, samulis wrote: How are contest entries goin', guys?

TOO SHORT

I wish I could just provide all the material I worked on for this, but I split like six minutes worth of music up into separate songs and now the main one isn't long enough :/

Oh well, I'll upload it as is and see what happens. The deadline is in an hour and a half so I won't be able to add enough in that time.

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 10:43 PM Reply

At 11/6/12 10:32 PM, WizMystery wrote:
Oh well, I'll upload it as is and see what happens. The deadline is in an hour and a half so I won't be able to add enough in that time.

Is it except me, every classical circle-jerk are serious about things they do, especially in a contest?

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 10:46 PM Reply

At 11/6/12 10:32 PM, WizMystery wrote:
At 11/6/12 10:24 PM, samulis wrote: How are contest entries goin', guys?
TOO SHORT

I wish I could just provide all the material I worked on for this, but I split like six minutes worth of music up into separate songs and now the main one isn't long enough :/

Oh well, I'll upload it as is and see what happens. The deadline is in an hour and a half so I won't be able to add enough in that time.

Brah, still got a full day left, as stated by Lord Bosa himself:

THE DEADLINE IS NOW NOVEMBER 7TH @ 23:59.99

In any case, progress is VERY slow for my part, but I'll try to pull out something at least half-decent!

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 6th, 2012 @ 10:57 PM Reply

At 11/6/12 10:46 PM, camoshark wrote: Brah, still got a full day left, as stated by Lord Bosa himself:
THE DEADLINE IS NOW NOVEMBER 7TH @ 23:59.99
In any case, progress is VERY slow for my part, but I'll try to pull out something at least half-decent!

Oh...

Well that annoys me now since I'm stuck doing other shit for a college I'm leaving anyway. I could just not sleep tonight...

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 03:21 AM Reply

At 11/6/12 10:43 PM, m0lecule wrote:
At 11/6/12 10:32 PM, WizMystery wrote:
Oh well, I'll upload it as is and see what happens. The deadline is in an hour and a half so I won't be able to add enough in that time.
Is it except me, every classical circle-jerk are serious about things they do, especially in a contest?

God no, most of my stuff that end up on Newgrounds or online in general is really stuff I do for shits and giggles to get a break from my studies.

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 05:17 AM Reply

Should be able to post my track tonight (my timezone) if all goes well.

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 08:26 PM Reply

Won't be entering, no time sadly but on to a more important matter...

If I read the contest thread correctly...

BOSA!!! Don't leave Newgrounds! O.o

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 09:18 PM Reply

At 11/7/12 08:26 PM, LazyBucks wrote: Won't be entering, no time sadly but on to a more important matter...

If I read the contest thread correctly...

BOSA!!! Don't leave Newgrounds! O.o

Thanks for spoiling the surprise..


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 10:32 PM Reply

At 11/7/12 09:18 PM, Bosa wrote:
At 11/7/12 08:26 PM, LazyBucks wrote: Won't be entering, no time sadly but on to a more important matter...

If I read the contest thread correctly...

BOSA!!! Don't leave Newgrounds! O.o
Thanks for spoiling the surprise..

Why's all the geniuses left NG? This place is sad...

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 10:46 PM Reply

I'll unfortunately need to back down from this competition, as I've done my best to come up with something, but my inspiration is currently as dry as Death Valley.

I've written less than 30 seconds' worth of material, and seeing as there's only an hour left, I think it's safe to say I'm short on time.

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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 7th, 2012 @ 11:20 PM Reply

At 11/7/12 10:46 PM, camoshark wrote: I'll unfortunately need to back down from this competition, as I've done my best to come up with something, but my inspiration is currently as dry as Death Valley.

I've written less than 30 seconds' worth of material, and seeing as there's only an hour left, I think it's safe to say I'm short on time.

You'll get a two day grace period.


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Response to Quest for the Crown Discussion Nov. 9th, 2012 @ 10:03 PM Reply

So, art thou satisfied with this contest thus far? Dost thou approve of the quest?


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