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4kids 2012-10-21 10:26:54 Reply

What is the deal with all the hate 4kids gets? Even to this day when I read the forums and I come across an anime topic everyone flames the crap out of 4kids.

So I have to ask why?

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 10:29:54 Reply

At 10/21/12 10:26 AM, Mixolydia wrote: What is the deal with all the hate 4kids gets? Even to this day when I read the forums and I come across an anime topic everyone flames the crap out of 4kids.

So I have to ask why?

Americanizing anime is bad

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 10:36:11 Reply

I thought 4kids went bankrupt and disappeared into oblivion years ago.
Well, it's because they do a bad job at localizing anime. For example.
Also they like to do a lot of unnecessary edits. Just look at this.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 10:39:22 Reply

its the uncatchy nanme dude shoulda gone with 5kids i told tHEM nbut NO


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 10:57:06 Reply

what the fuck is 4kids


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 11:03:06 Reply

hahah HAH she ATE my rice balls boy!


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 11:35:21 Reply

I haven't even heard much of 4Kids at all recently. They lost the rights to "Pokemon" in 2006, I think it was? Their second most popular thing was "Yu-Gi-Oh!" which I think ended at about that time. I don't even know who owns the rights to the newer Yu-Gi-Oh series. Actually "Sonic X" was probably their most botched job.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 12:49:55 Reply

Uhh, why do people still fight about 4kids? I thought it was over.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 12:58:51 Reply

While localizing anime is very difficult, I feel that the way they go about it is wrong. That is why I don't like 4kids, even though they did introduce me to Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 13:03:02 Reply

Eight year old spotted, fire missiles.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:20:35 Reply

At 10/21/12 10:29 AM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:
At 10/21/12 10:26 AM, Mixolydia wrote: What is the deal with all the hate 4kids gets? Even to this day when I read the forums and I come across an anime topic everyone flames the crap out of 4kids.

So I have to ask why?
Americanizing anime is bad

Especially when 4Kids selection of anime is terrible on it's own merit.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:27:49 Reply

At 10/21/12 02:20 PM, II2none wrote: Especially when 4Kids selection of anime is terrible on it's own merit.

Yeah its mostly shit and the dubs suck.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:28:48 Reply

I hate 4kids because they just made a total shit dub of One Piece, which in really is a pretty violent anime. Things like replacing Sanji's cigarettes with lollipops (and having a totally inappropriate voice). They cut so much of the violent and and sensitive scenes that it created huge plot holes. It was like trying to dub porn for kids...


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:30:48 Reply

At 10/21/12 02:27 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 10/21/12 02:20 PM, II2none wrote: Especially when 4Kids selection of anime is terrible on it's own merit.
Yeah its mostly shit and the dubs suck.

Implying any anime is good/worth watching.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:32:39 Reply

At 10/21/12 02:30 PM, Skaren wrote: Implying any anime is good/worth watching.

Implying good anime is hard to find

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:33:19 Reply

At 10/21/12 02:32 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 10/21/12 02:30 PM, Skaren wrote: Implying any anime is good/worth watching.
Implying good anime is hard to find

Implying it's not.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:34:23 Reply

I don't know what 4kids is but anime is awful.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 14:43:10 Reply

At 10/21/12 02:33 PM, Skaren wrote:
At 10/21/12 02:32 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 10/21/12 02:30 PM, Skaren wrote: Implying any anime is good/worth watching.
Implying good anime is hard to find
Implying it's not.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 15:11:23 Reply

What are my reasons? Ok I have quite a few so here we go.

1 Americianing animes and unneeded edits (meaning sucking all of the culture out of the anime and replacing it with american culture)

Seriously while I know you need to edit out bad words and unsuitable scenes, changing a rice ball into a sandwich, or calling it a Donuts was a very bad edit that wasn't breaking any rules and could have been left alone. I mean seriously does it harm you in any way to let the culture stay in the anime without gutting it, and filling it with your own? I think now yet these idiots went and did it anyways.

Another example of this is completely removing lines from a character that aren't offensive but go with the character skills or style. This happen in Hoshi no Kirby (Kirby right back at ya) with Fighter Kirby and mirror Kirby's copy abilites since in the original he would say the his attacks he could call them out but in the 4kids dub they edited this out.

Another would be the removing of weapons and replacing weapons with other items. Seriously I have watched american cartoons where the characters smoke and have guns. Elmer Fudd and Yosamie Sam are two good examples of this and the censors let this fly, yet they removed the characters weapons and replaced cigarettes with lolipops when they not only show this in american cartoons, but actually see people in america smoke in real life? (Insert face palm here)

2 The unneeded changing of names unless they were unsuitable.

Seriously what was wrong with their original names that you needed to change them? Because American names are easy to remember and are more marketable? I call bullshit on this one! While I can remember one anime actually changing a characters name because it was unsuitable (The name is picodevimon since Pico mean Penis in another language and some could say he is penisdevimon) 4kids changes perfectly good names that were not offensive and some of them we have in our culture one of which being Honda (Tristan in the english version of Yugioh)

3 You care so much about making a buck that you will do anything to post an anime in america even if it means butchering it and sending it to the unexpected views.

Serious this one is the biggest one. Many kids animes from Japan are the equal to teens and young adults in our country yet they will still accept the anime anyways and destroy it just for a quick buck. One good example of this is one piece. One piece from what I saw of the original is a very violent anime that should have been sold to another company that would do the anime justice however these retards decided to go ahead and dub it anyways gutting everything that made the anime watchable and edited so much that it left plot holes you had no clue about unless you watched the original Seriously if you were to watch the original and then the 4kids dub you would think you were watching two different things and it was done only to make money without caring about their viewers.

There is more but I will stop for now.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 15:15:08 Reply

Didnt 4 kids do Ultimate Muscle??


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 15:29:57 Reply

At 10/21/12 10:26 AM, Mixolydia wrote: What is the deal with all the hate 4kids gets? Even to this day when I read the forums and I come across an anime topic everyone flames the crap out of 4kids.

So I have to ask why?

because they kinda fuck around with anime which has some adult themes to make it all kid friendly when really, it's not what it was intended by the original writers

hell, if i were to start my own translation/dubbing company for anime, i'd make sure it remained as faithful as possible to the source material.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 16:13:26 Reply

At 10/21/12 03:30 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 10/21/12 03:28 PM, Rummy0 wrote:
stop it it's not 2010 anymore stop trying to give everyone a fucking brain tumour
told like a true baka

IMPLYING ITS THE TRUTH :(

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 16:51:17 Reply

At 10/21/12 10:29 AM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:
At 10/21/12 10:26 AM, Mixolydia wrote: What is the deal with all the hate 4kids gets? Even to this day when I read the forums and I come across an anime topic everyone flames the crap out of 4kids.

So I have to ask why?
Americanizing anime is bad

^^^^^This is the best answer^^^^
The thread is basically over

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 17:08:56 Reply

4kids? Even the characters from this show think they fail.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 17:24:18 Reply

It makes me laugh seeing the words censorship and cartoons together. Mainly because origenal cartoons were NOT for childern at all. It started in adult like industry. So cartoons reverse aged?

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 19:43:34 Reply

At 10/21/12 05:24 PM, FutalRage wrote: It makes me laugh seeing the words censorship and cartoons together. Mainly because origenal cartoons were NOT for childern at all. It started in adult like industry. So cartoons reverse aged?

This is an ENGLISH forum.

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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 19:59:45 Reply

4Kids is the greatest thing to happen to anime. All they did is improve everything, but people don't like good things, so we took the good away so now all weeaboos have is their own shit to complain about.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 20:05:17 Reply

At 10/21/12 02:28 PM, Osyris wrote: I hate 4kids because they just made a total shit dub of One Piece, which in really is a pretty violent anime. Things like replacing Sanji's cigarettes with lollipops (and having a totally inappropriate voice). They cut so much of the violent and and sensitive scenes that it created huge plot holes. It was like trying to dub porn for kids...

The worst part is that whenever I went to read the manga scan of One Piece, I always think of 4kids' dub voice, especially in Sanji's badass moments which can be awkward.

They do have voices that fits (Nami and Luffy), but the dialogues on the other hand...makes you shudder. Then there is the blue Mr. Popo on DBKai.

As for Pokemon, haven't paid much attention to the series once Dawn left so...yeah. Besides that, the anime became predictable as well all know what happens, Ash chokes in the tournament more than Jim Kelly chokes in 1990 to 1994 and he starts another adventure with new roster outside of Pikachu.

Then there's the plot inducred stupidity.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 20:14:45 Reply

At 10/21/12 07:59 PM, Ryanson wrote: 4Kids is the greatest thing to happen to anime. All they did is improve everything, but people don't like good things, so we took the good away so now all weeaboos have is their own shit to complain about.

Oh, you are so hilarious in your sarcasm, I salute you.

In all seriousness, the reason why 4kids got a lot of flak from anime fans is that they horribly edited a lot of anime that either wasn't meant for children, {by American standards at least} or simply due to horrible editing and whitewashing in general. Now I can't really say for certain what happened, but I think that that one of their former employees sued the company and got a huge settlement from it, and soon after that, Al Khan {the CEO of 4kids at the time} resigned and went somewhere else. About the only anime that they have now is Yu-gi-oh, and well, it's pretty much crap.

Somehow, I just feel so nostalgic when somebody bashes 4kids, almost reminds me of 2008 all over again.


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Response to 4kids 2012-10-21 20:22:32 Reply

Lol at all the autistic neckbeards complaining that a company that was popular 8 fucking years ago didn't dub their shitty anime the way they wanted. It's called 4Kids for a reason; It for kids, so of course they're going to edit out extreme violence, gore, and drug references. The vast majority of Americans who watch mainstream anime are children, so obviously they're going to cater to them. I highly doubt they care about a bunch of basement dwellers.