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At 10/20/12 08:52 PM, POTaTOS wrote: Sounds more like they're milking the shit out of this series.
Honestly, they killed the series with the ending. (Yeah, I went there.) Why carry it on? What is there to do at this point? HOW THE HELL ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE THREE VERSIONS OF THE GAME FOR EACH DIFFERENT ENDING?!
This is just stupid, in my opinion.

You mean like SE milking the FF series?

At 10/21/12 04:29 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:

At 10/21/12 04:11 PM, kakalxlax wrote: prequels still suck, you would still know you wont be able to change history and how things are going to turn out in the bigger picture.... and having that spoiled sucks

By that logic, we should stop making games set in World War 2. We all know the allies win, the Soviets storm Berlin,and Hitler kills himself. So what story is there to tell?

yes we really should

Telling a story through gameplay is infinitely better than telling it through text or dialogue. That's why expanding upon these stories is a very good idea.

you only stated why playing a game is better than a book or a movie, not why a prequel would be better than moving forward

At 10/21/12 05:00 PM, kakalxlax wrote: you only stated why playing a game is better than a book or a movie, not why a prequel would be better than moving forward

I am a believer in the idea that it is best to expand a story in both directions (sequels and prequels). Well, we've already gotten two sequels, the second of which had an ending that didn't leave much room for expansion. I'd say a prequel is due by now.

Believe it or not, Halo had the right idea with Halo Wars and Reach. Say what you want about the execution, but the fact that they went with the idea to flesh out the universe like that deserves major props.

The same applies to Star Wars. Again, the execution may be questionable, but the open beginning of A New Hope meant that it desperately needed a prequel of some kind. Yeah, we know how most of it is going to turn out, but it's still a fun ride, and a great way to expand upon a universe.

And if there was ever a universe that needed expansion, it was Mass Effect. Mass Effect is a groundbreaking achievement for interactive storytelling, so it only makes sense that the prequels be handled in the form of a game. That's why I want a prequel.

At 10/21/12 05:16 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:

At 10/21/12 05:00 PM, kakalxlax wrote:

The same applies to Star Wars. Again, the execution may be questionable, but the open beginning of A New Hope meant that it desperately needed a prequel of some kind. Yeah, we know how most of it is going to turn out, but it's still a fun ride, and a great way to expand upon a universe.

technically the new starwars movies are not a prequel due the first starwars movie to come out was titled "4". the 6 movies were done together, 1-3 were released later for a technology issue.
but still its funny, i was going to use star wars as an example of why prequels suck. and why all prequels suck, you know how it ends, you know what kind of things wont happen, you know who lives and dies, there are less surprises, and everything is directed to a point you already know, what makes the making of the product more lazy. as i said watching a prequel is like watching a movie you have read all spoilers about

And if there was ever a universe that needed expansion, it was Mass Effect. Mass Effect

yes it should be expanded: new races, new events, new technology, nothing of which you will get in a prequel, even more, you will get less of everything, less tech, less races, no new events. playing that game i would be all like "these unwary idiots doing stupid shit, they dont know the reapers are coming"

is a groundbreaking achievement for interactive storytelling, so it only makes sense that the prequels be handled in the form of a game. That's why I want a prequel.

Bioware has some great writers, but I think they need to focus their talents elsewhere. Risking a fourth mass effect is risking your legendary game trilogy going down the toilet. If they can't get the fourth game perfect it'll end with everyone saying that the first three games were amazing but the fourth just killed it. Don't get me wrong, I would thoroughly enjoy a fourth ME, but it would have to be better than the first three combined, not just another title to rake in more money.

My advice: Bioware, quit while you're ahead.

they should really get over it and start a new game. the mass effect trilogy isn't exactly greatly appreciated as it is, it's better off showing you have other things up your sleeve rather than going overboard and pissing on your own creation.

At 10/21/12 05:39 PM, kakalxlax wrote: technically the new starwars movies are not a prequel due the first starwars movie to come out was titled "4". the 6 movies were done together, 1-3 were released later for a technology issue.

Except they weren't originally titled 4-6. The numbers were added later, after the announcement of a prequel trilogy.

but still its funny, i was going to use star wars as an example of why prequels suck.

Meh. I liked 1 and 3. 2 sucked, though.

and why all prequels suck, you know how it ends, you know what kind of things wont happen, you know who lives and dies, there are less surprises, and everything is directed to a point you already know, what makes the making of the product more lazy. as i said watching a prequel is like watching a movie you have read all spoilers about

Even when you know what's going to happen, a story can still be entertaining. Like Halo Reach, where you knew that the Covenant was going to win and that Reach was going to get glassed, but it was still a good run while you were watching it happen.

yes it should be expanded: new races, new events, new technology, nothing of which you will get in a prequel, even more, you will get less of everything, less tech, less races, no new events. playing that game i would be all like "these unwary idiots doing stupid shit, they dont know the reapers are coming"

I don't even want to hear the word "Reaper" again. Their storyline was completely concluded in ME3. Mass Effect 4, be it a sequel or prequel, should focus on an aspect of the universe completely unrelated to the Reapers.

Hmm, I'm honestly not sure what to make of this. I was looking forward to non-Shepard related Mass Effect games BEFORE Mass Effect 3.

It's been mentioned before, but I still agree with it. The endings of Mass Effect 3 are too massive for it to be possible to set a game post-Mass Effect 3. Maybe you could do prequels but as mentioned it wouldn't leave much room for a choice-based RPG again since you'd be fucking with canon in-universe history unless you're someone who is completely insignificant to the galaxy at large. And that would be a tad anti-climatic to play as a complete nobody.

In short, I'm worried that Mass Effect 3's ending didn't leave room for any decent prequels or sequels, but I guess I'll see.

Only if the Geth are in it.

Damn it, I thought I wouldn't have to endure Mass Effect fanboys anymore...

SIGH

At 10/21/12 06:02 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:

Even when you know what's going to happen, a story can still be entertaining.

"can" but sequels are better than prequels history proves me right, having big events limitation and knowing the future of that world always play against the enjoyment, not only because people usually enjoy their first gameplay the most, but because making a prequel is lazy, it gets lazy development what helps to its mediocrity

and even so, making a prequel would not be the right move to bioware, players who would play a prequel would play a sequel, but a good bunch of players who would play a sequel wont play a prequel

I don't even want to hear the word "Reaper" again. Their storyline was completely concluded in ME3. Mass Effect 4, be it a sequel or prequel, should focus on an aspect of the universe completely unrelated to the Reapers.

what i meant was, you already know how everything is going to turn out

At 10/22/12 03:30 AM, kakalxlax wrote:

and even so, making a prequel would not be the right move to bioware, players who would play a prequel would play a sequel, but a good bunch of players who would play a sequel wont play a prequel

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Honestly they have one last opportunity to make an ME game, and thats a prequel, following Shepards backstory. Ive always wanted to see what it would look like to slaughter the batarian slavers that murdered Shepards family, or watch my team be slaughtered by a bunch of thresher maws, you get the idea. But thats the only thing I can think of, atleast as far as Shepard goes.

At 10/24/12 08:55 AM, SenatorJohnDean wrote: Me too. Thank God that loser bit the storyline dust.

Actually, the reason I'm glad Shepard is staying dead is because I think (s)he's such a great character.

It's great that BioWare is allowing the character to get a proper goodbye (again, unlike some developers), and moving on to a different hero for their next game. Shepard will be missed, but that is to be expected with any great character who passes away.

At 10/24/12 03:31 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:

At 10/24/12 08:55 AM, SenatorJohnDean wrote: Me too. Thank God that loser bit the storyline dust.

Actually, the reason I'm glad Shepard is staying dead

depends on the ending you got, it would be good to get a cameo of him if he survived your gameplay

the only thing good about changing characters is that Shepard is too know in that universe, he is too famous to get undetected or to have casual conversations with strangers