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Rebelling form the creator 2012-10-20 12:58:05 Reply

I watched a show were humanity created robots that were to help us with every need. But then the robots developed a clear sentience and wanted to do things on there own. They also developed there own personality's. Humanity then feared these robots, looking at them as a threat and a possible competitor. So we decided to deactivate them and reprogram them. The robots learned what was happening so they decided to rebel.

This got me thinking (lets say god really exists) if our creators wishes no longer coincided with ours would we rebel against God like the robots did with us in the show?

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Response to Rebelling form the creator 2012-10-21 01:35:14 Reply

Laying aside that you just described every movie and TV show about robots ever, it's an interesting question. Star Trek lore states that the Klingons killed their gods, so the idea has certainly been explored.

As for rising up against the all-knowing and all-powerful god of the Abrahamic faiths, I suppose it's possible (Lucifer did it, after all); but if God is immortal all-knowing and all-powerul, then he would already know the outcome of such a rebellion, and either 1) crush it with his all-powerfulness, 2) grant the free will to rebel knowing he'll outlast it, or 3) leave of his own accord and let us sort out our own problems. Current interpretation of Scripture suggests a combination of the first two possibilities.

On the other hand, if God is not immortal, all-knowing or all-powerful, that changes the scenario at a fundamental level. If he is not immortal, then he can be killed even if he is all-knowing or all-powerful; if he is not all-knowing, then he can not control the outcome even if he is immortal or all-powerful; if he is not all-powerful, then he can be usurped even if he is immortal and all-knowing. (This of course assumes that the concept of "all-powerful" doesn't cover knowing everything or bringing oneself back to life after dying, which technically isn't being all-powerful, but that's a different discussion.)

Then there's the idea of "what if the gods aren't really gods?" This isn't exactly a novel concept; it was the driving force of the Stargate franchise and occurs in other works of science fiction, often with our own historic pantheons. There are multitudes of works where the "gods" of a story, who turned out to either not really be gods or were not invulnerable to mortals, were rebelled against, replaced by other deities, or simply left of their own accord because they determined they weren't needed anymore.

All of this doesn't even touch on the concept of apotheosis, wherein the creations become godlike. Again, that's another matter entirely.

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Response to Rebelling form the creator 2012-10-21 09:52:34 Reply

i would like to single handedly lead the rebell against god yes thank you


I'm an instigator

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Response to Rebelling form the creator 2012-10-21 10:52:07 Reply

Of course, God is supposed to be omnipotent and in this scenario, how would lesser beings be able to take over God? Robots by their physical nature, are stronger than humans, but God wasn't dumb enough to create being stronger than him (which kind of goes toward that whole omnipotence paradox). Besides, if we killed God, would God simply disappear forever and not reappear in Heaven like we do? If we could defeat God, it would prove he isn't worthy of being our creator.


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Response to Rebelling form the creator 2012-10-21 12:57:43 Reply

To Dawnslayer

If you look at god from the bible then god can not be all knowing. After all people trick and fool god many times, Lucifer's rebellion being an example of this. Also it is impossible for god to be all powerful. He could be very powerful but there are to many paradoxes for him to be all powerful. Example: Can god make a hot dog so hot that even he can't eat it? If he can then he is not all powerful because he can't eat it and if he can eat it then he is not all powerful because he can't make it so hot that he can't eat it. So god can be very powerful but not all powerful.

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Response to Rebelling form the creator 2012-10-21 22:38:30 Reply

I for one welcome our robot overlords.


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