At 10/21/12 07:38 AM, Tomsan wrote:
I still think it needs 'something' but why not let the creator of the song contribute?
I have to say I really like this. It have an album cover "feel" to it, kind of like something I'd expect to see on a concept rock album from the late 70s.
At 10/21/12 04:38 PM, RealFaction wrote:
But yes I'll pay the artist a cut of the profit, if I get any lol.
I would just set a dollar amount to be paid for the work. I don't know what the budgetary constraints for this release are or what (if any) income you pull in from album sales, but say maybe $25 and a copy of the CD? I think, given the circumstances and the amount of work involved, that would be more than fair.
If you are dead set on making payment be a cut of the album sales, then I would set the percentage point way lower. Maybe 1 or 2 percent, definitely nothing over 5 percent. But, a cut of the sales is really only meaningful if you're anticipating a lot of sales, which it sounds like you're not (I can sympathize). For most people, I think having a concrete dollar amount is more enticement than a percentage of an ambiguous sales figure; it's hard to commit when you don't know exactly what you're getting in return.
That being said, I'm not sure why there seems to be all of this moral outrage directed at this particular thread. From what I can tell, the argument is basically, "If you're asking someone to do work for you, you should pay them. Artists have to eat and pay their rent too." Sure, okay, that's reasonable, I get that.
But, let's look at the NG Print Calendar 2013 thread for a minute and see what's going on there. The Newgrounds art community is being asked to contribute art that will be used both to promote Newgrounds and be sold here on Newgrounds.
So what do you get in return?
At 9/18/12 01:44 PM, TomFulp wrote:
Each of the 12 winners will receive:
- A month of the calendar with his/her art featured
- A Calendar
- $25 Store Credit
- Stickers and junk!
That's not bad. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if I got a store credit and a calendar in the mail in exchange for art that I did.
In terms of offering incentive for people to participate, I think that's great. I don't think you could ask for much more to get people both excited and willing to participate in a contest.
But, looking at it from the perspective of "Artist's have to pay rent," let's be clear about something: Newgrounds is asking people to contribute art to something which they will sell and make money off of, but none of the contributors are being paid for their work.
Yes, there is the $25 store credit. But you can't buy food or pay your rent with a Newgrounds store credit.
Now granted, I would assume the profit margin is relatively small on the calendars and it's done more as a promotional / good will contest than anything else. But if we're going to hold RealFaction to the standard that "If you're selling your work then you're out to make a profit and should pay people who contribute" then I think it's reasonable to hold Newgrounds to the same standard.
I apologize for further derailng this thread.