At 10/12/12 11:00 PM, TheMason wrote:
I don't think the wounds are healed completely; and I think this could rip the wounds off them.
I was actually thinking of adding this point. If Obama wins in such a manner I don't think it will erase the memory, or be brought up much at all. However, I do agree that if Romney wins in such a manner the wound will be ripped off, no doubt.
Furthermore, thinking that liberals are 'looser and very reluctant to place party over country' is incredibly naive. Political scientists have studied the question of which side has more political empathy. Come to find out that conservatives can more accurately describe the liberal's positions and arguments...while liberals tend to negatively stereotype conservative arguments (ie: Republicans are for the rich/corporations/evangelicals). The problem with that is they tend to be dismissive of their opponents and underestimate them.
That is definitely true in part, but as a whole liberals in Congress have been far more willing to break ranks for their own personal views than the conservatives. Hence why Bush was able to get far more done in his terms than Obama even though he was disliked just as much by the Democrats then as Obama is by the Republicans now.
So the idea that liberals are not blindly partisan and/or ideological is an absurdity.
The Democrat sin Congress are less Liberal than the Repuclicans are Conservative.
And yes, when I get the time to look up the journal articles I will provide sources (I'm at drill this weekend).
But the point is: Clinton's impeachment is only a fraction of the reason he got chased out of office...not the hole kit and kaboodle.
But it was definitely a part, and the Republicans left the whole shabang with a major black eye. They actually had a good legal reason to impeach: perjury. Unless Obama does something flagrantly illegal like that, impeachment will be hit with major negative repercussions.
2) In two years if the economy is still stagnating and we are in a double dip recession...Republicans may feel froggy especially if they feel the election was stolen from them. Obama's approval ratings, if he wins a second term, are more likely to go down than up (historical trend)...which will only add to the Republican's frogginess.
And? So the answer to a President you don't agree with is to impeach? What was this Republicans aren't lock step thing you were saying?
3) I can say it about my own side: they are politicians with an ideological worldview on what is best for the country...which is the other side is wrong and their policies are wrong and must be undermined because they will destroy 'Merica. (If you think the libs are any better...may I refer you to any recent Paul Krugman op ed piece?)
I still don't believe that they will go to impeachment. I do this with the whole "impeach Bush" pressures and grassroots campaign in my mind. I seriously doubt the conservatives would risk such political suicide over the possibible, but extremely unlikely conviction of Obama.
Additional point: Biden. More than enough to chill the sentiment.
Again, I think you're looking through some rose colored glasses here. Afterall, I can tell you as an authority...that Emergency Management agencies are preparing for the possibility.
Yeah, that's their job. Hell, the CDC issued a Zombie Apocalypse Plan. That hardly means that we are on the verge of an undead infestation.
It takes a long string of fairly flagrant and open racial issues combined with an overtly racist or at least very borderline overtly racist incident. Take the Watts and King riots. They both had long build ups of racial discrimination by the City and the police, and both were sparked by events in which a blakc man was physically beaten by members of the police department. This election has neither. Sure, it's a black guy. But while Romney has been stupidly racist, he's never been overtly and hatefully racist. On top of that, there's enough out there about Obama for the dislike of him to be rooted in policy. The mere existence of racial overtones is not enough to spark riots, especially race based riots.