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Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 01:05 PM Reply

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So I saw this game, and I noticed it had HTML5 in it and the UJ screen looked different.
What does it mean? Does it mean NG will finally begin hosting HTML5 games?
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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 02:52 PM Reply

So I guess the implementation of this is what caused a bug where everyone had access to publish mp4s a few days ago right?

This is pretty cool though.


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 03:04 PM Reply

Yeah, we recently added support for html5 games. This is currently in a closed beta state while we feel things out, and we are currently using it to host some MMO type games that are technically flash games, but have to run from remote servers.

Once we get all the kinks identified and fixed, we'll be inviting more developers to submit html5 content, but given how easily these formats can be used for abuse and malicious purposes, we probably won't be letting everyone submit html5 content.


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 03:43 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 03:04 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Yeah, we recently added support for html5 games.

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are you trying to phase out flash?

This is currently in a closed beta state while we feel things out, and we are currently using it to host some MMO type games that are technically flash games, but have to run from remote servers.

Once we get all the kinks identified and fixed, we'll be inviting more developers to submit html5 content, but given how easily these formats can be used for abuse and malicious purposes, we probably won't be letting everyone submit html5 content.

how is permission gained?
what if a legit author is hacked or changes there ethos
must game source be proof read
must moderators approve it before it can be voted on

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 04:38 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 03:43 PM, straberrykiler6789 wrote:
At 10/11/12 03:04 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Yeah, we recently added support for html5 games.
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are you trying to phase out flash?

yes. it has nothing to do with keeping up with modern technology and software.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 04:50 PM Reply

Oh wow, that's great. But I still don't see why anyone would chose to make games/movies in html5/css3 instea of flash.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 04:51 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:50 PM, LiquidFire wrote: Oh wow, that's great. But I still don't see why anyone would chose to make games/movies in html5/css3 instea of flash.

i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 04:51 PM Reply

Well, this certainly wasn't flashy


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 05:12 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 03:04 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Once we get all the kinks identified and fixed, we'll be inviting more developers to submit html5 content, but given how easily these formats can be used for abuse and malicious purposes, we probably won't be letting everyone submit html5 content.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 05:20 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote:
At 10/11/12 04:50 PM, LiquidFire wrote: Oh wow, that's great. But I still don't see why anyone would chose to make games/movies in html5/css3 instea of flash.
i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.

What the fuck is an "Android"?

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 06:04 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote:
At 10/11/12 04:50 PM, LiquidFire wrote: Oh wow, that's great. But I still don't see why anyone would chose to make games/movies in html5/css3 instea of flash.
i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.

Then they should buy an android.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 06:06 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote:
At 10/11/12 04:50 PM, LiquidFire wrote: Oh wow, that's great. But I still don't see why anyone would chose to make games/movies in html5/css3 instea of flash.
i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.

yeah we certainly need to point the finger at Newgrounds and not because your device is technically behind everything else

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 06:06 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 03:04 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Yeah, we recently added support for html5 games. This is currently in a closed beta state while we feel things out, and we are currently using it to host some MMO type games that are technically flash games, but have to run from remote servers.

Thats actually pretty cool.

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote: i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.

People who are smart enough not to buy an iPhone can see stuff on NG, seems like you arent that smart.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 06:23 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote: i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.
People who are smart enough not to buy an iPhone can see stuff on NG, seems like you arent that smart.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 06:28 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote: i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.
People who are smart enough not to buy an iPhone can see stuff on NG, seems like you arent that smart.

1. I dont own a iphone
2. i thought android and almost every other smart phone are gettng rid of flash?


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 07:50 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 06:28 PM, TheMajormel wrote:
At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote: i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.
People who are smart enough not to buy an iPhone can see stuff on NG, seems like you arent that smart.
1. I dont own a iphone
2. i thought android and almost every other smart phone are gettng rid of flash?

Stupid move to be honest. I don't see the logic in suddenly stopping support for something that's still commonly used.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 07:56 PM Reply

This was stated before the redesign, but never mentioned when it would be implimented, just that it would.

I actually just thought NG already supported it. Im not quite sure whats different about HTML5 enough to warrant "abuse" of it though. Just another programming language aint it?


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 08:08 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 04:51 PM, TheMajormel wrote:
At 10/11/12 04:50 PM, LiquidFire wrote: Oh wow, that's great. But I still don't see why anyone would chose to make games/movies in html5/css3 instea of flash.
i dunno, maybe because PEOPLE WITH SMARTPHONES might actually wanna see stuff on NG.

I'm using an iPhone and I can't play it.
It still says I need Flash player.

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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 08:10 PM Reply

Hmm...all HTML5 content should work on my S3, but this game doesn't. I just get redirected to the unplayable .zip after clicking "Start Game." It's fine on my laptop though.


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Response to Html5! Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 08:11 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 08:10 PM, GoryBlizzard wrote: Hmm...all HTML5 content should work on my S3, but this game doesn't. I just get redirected to the unplayable .zip after clicking "Start Game." It's fine on my laptop though.

The game itself isnt HTML5, just the frame its in is.


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Response to Html5! Oct. 12th, 2012 @ 07:29 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 07:56 PM, sweet21 wrote: This was stated before the redesign, but never mentioned when it would be implimented, just that it would.

I actually just thought NG already supported it. Im not quite sure whats different about HTML5 enough to warrant "abuse" of it though. Just another programming language aint it?

Not quite. HTML5 is just a new standards for the existing HTML language. But with the ability to use HTML comes the ability to use javascript, and the necessity of javascript so the canvas element can be controlled.

The concern is with javascript. Using something as simple as "for(i=0;i<1;i+=0){alert('hax')}" can cause an infinite loop and crash your browser. They could also use javascript to disable the vote buttons with the exception of "5" ([button].onclick=function(){return false}) or close the window the second you open the game (window.close()). There are a number of ways a phony HTML5 game could be used for evil, since Javascript, unlike Actionscript, has control over the entire window, rather than just a little sandboxed area where a plugin can run.


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