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supernintendosp
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Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 08:40 PM Reply

For the most part, I'm here for that sense of nostalgia that your "Video Game Music" genre brings. About two months ago, people who were free-forming music started thinking "Oh I think that putting my music in Video Game Music will land my music in a Flash game!" I don't see the same vision and I'm getting mad at the fact that I'm finding freelance music instead of music that I actually recognize. It's like "What's THIS crap?" Admittedly, I'm not in the greatest mood right now. I've had a rough day. But I digress.

I think that the "Video Game Music" genre should be solely remixes of known published video game music like music from Mario Kart and Final Fantasy, among other known video game franchises. As a result, there should be a "Flash Game Music" genre for those who are looking to pick up flash music cred. Any veteran and/or casual gamers here agree with me? Or am I being mispercieved?

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 08:49 PM Reply

I'm pretty sure the "Video Game" genre is meant to be 8-bit, Chiptune, etc etc. Not any style of music MADE for games/flash, as many people mistakenly interpret.

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 08:54 PM Reply

Frankly they left the genre 'Video Game' pretty open to interpretation. You may think it's just a place for people to throw remixes in... personally I think that's one of its purposes but I believe it should also be used to categorise music that was simply designed to be like video game music. It doesn't have to be music that was made to be in flash games. Just video-game-inspired music. I've done some tracks like that before and I know of people like Waterflame whose tracks sound precisely like something that would fit perfectly in the background of any game and are heavily VG-inspired, so he puts a lot of them in the Video Game genre.

Anyway, it doesn't make much sense to make a 'Flash Game Music' genre considering the whole Audio Portal was originally made to provide music for flash artists. That and I think the staff are too busy on other stuff to worry about more trivial or subjective matters like these.


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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 09:18 PM Reply

I agree with Step 100%. I write music for use in games. It's how I make my money.
That genre covers the things mentioned by the OP of course, i.e. remixes and 8bit music, but also music specifically designed to be played in games. :)


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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 09:27 PM Reply

In my opinion, VG music is anything emulating "simple" videogame music- MIDI, electronics, synths. In addition, it includes "VG" sounding tracks- all those "orchestral" pieces with silly marcato violins all over the page and lots of brass Tuttis and harp glisses that sound like all those old game themes. If your music is orchestral, but does NOT emulate the style of those games, it belongs in "Classical" (since there is no overarching "orchestral" category). I pretty much ignore the section and leave it those who have more pop, rock, jazz, or dubstep influences in their orchestral.


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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 09:50 PM Reply

An entry can't belong in multiple categories?

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 10:00 PM Reply

At 10/10/12 08:40 PM, supernintendosp wrote: For the most part, I'm here for that sense of nostalgia that your "Video Game Music" genre brings. About two months ago, people who were free-forming music started thinking "Oh I think that putting my music in Video Game Music will land my music in a Flash game!"

Two months ago? Uhh... This has been happening quite a while?

I don't see the same vision and I'm getting mad at the fact that I'm finding freelance music instead of music that I actually recognize. It's like "What's THIS crap?" Admittedly, I'm not in the greatest mood right now. I've had a rough day. But I digress.

I think I understand what you're coming from, but you also have to realize that people want to make their own interpretation of the songs they love more so than making a carbon clone of the same song (though at times I do this, but it usually has a "me" feel to it)

I think that the "Video Game Music" genre should be solely remixes of known published video game music like music from Mario Kart and Final Fantasy, among other known video game franchises. As a result, there should be a "Flash Game Music" genre for those who are looking to pick up flash music cred. Any veteran and/or casual gamers here agree with me? Or am I being mispercieved?

Seeing as though I would consider myself a veteran gamer (tournament status), I think the problem here is that the notion of "video-game music" is a misconception in itself. What exactly does it entail? As far as I know, "video-game music" can entail anything that isn't of traditional status insofar it has a pattern that people can recognize quickly. And the suggest of limiting the two styles of "video-game music" to only two categories is far too limiting because there are those of us who make video-game music not solely for the purpose of remixing premade songs, but to make original songs in itself. Some of our creation are not designed for flash, or have no intentions of being involved in flash games either.

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 10th, 2012 @ 10:32 PM Reply

At 10/10/12 09:27 PM, samulis wrote: In my opinion, VG music is anything emulating "simple" videogame music- MIDI, electronics, synths.

This is what I was trying to say, but articulated a LOT better ;) Thanks Samulis

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 11:57 AM Reply

At 10/10/12 08:40 PM, supernintendosp wrote: I think that the "Video Game Music" genre should be solely remixes of known published video game music

I disagree. And I also disagree that VGmusic should be chiptune or similar only. VG music has become very broad in the industry. It does consist of many genres, yes, but what actually makes it different from other genres that it is (or at least should be) made so that it compliments a game or a animation. Usually this means that it's structure is something simple and not so very listenable unless you can connect it to a certain game or a setting.

How about the other way around: genre for chiptune? It is it's own specific genre in a sense.


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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 12:16 PM Reply

At 10/10/12 08:40 PM, supernintendosp wrote: About two months ago, people who were free-forming music started

lol.

I think that the "Video Game Music" genre should be solely remixes of known published video game music like music from Mario Kart and Final Fantasy

just search for mario or kirby or fucking call of duty or whatever and you can listen to as many shitty midi rips and dubstep remixes made by 13 year olds that you want.

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 12:47 PM Reply

At 10/10/12 08:54 PM, Step wrote: I believe it should also be used to categorise music that was simply designed to be like video game music. It doesn't have to be music that was made to be in flash games. Just video-game-inspired music.

I agree. I've done tracks that would specifically function as a looping game over theme, or as a town theme, or battle theme, etc. They may be orchestral, but the they don't really fit under "classical." They are pieces that feel very "video game" like and fit there better than anywhere else that I can think of. I'm generally fine with how the video game section is right now. If anything, the better solution to the OP's problem might be to create a "video game remixes" or plain "remixes" genre in the audio portal, but I don't think this is really necessary.

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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 11th, 2012 @ 11:41 PM Reply

At 10/11/12 12:16 PM, Buoy wrote: just search for mario or kirby or fucking call of duty or whatever and you can listen to as many shitty midi rips and dubstep remixes made by 13 year olds that you want.

Pretty much this. Or OCRemix if you wanna find better stuff. I feel like the entire VG section of this site should just be wiped from existence.


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Response to Suggestion: Split a music genre Oct. 12th, 2012 @ 02:16 PM Reply

At 10/10/12 09:27 PM, samulis wrote: In my opinion, VG music is anything emulating "simple" videogame music- MIDI, electronics, synths. In addition, it includes "VG" sounding tracks- all those "orchestral" pieces with silly marcato violins all over the page and lots of brass Tuttis and harp glisses that sound like all those old game themes. If your music is orchestral, but does NOT emulate the style of those games, it belongs in "Classical" (since there is no overarching "orchestral" category). I pretty much ignore the section and leave it those who have more pop, rock, jazz, or dubstep influences in their orchestral.

I usually come across shits contain a line of legato cello and they call it 'Orchestra'. I am glad the Classical sections get lesser of these currently. The instruments alone do not defining the genre. Like Buoy said, you get MIDI ripping shits mostly in Video Game. It ain't hard to recognize the difference between rips and non-rips.

Now you have the Chiptune folks get to tuck in with talentless song rippers in VG section. It becomes so normal that everyone who's doing chiptune are gonna put their submissions in VG, just because their stuff sound like VG music.

It's a big shame. However the amount of chiptune submissions are quite small for making a separate genre on NG, because the MIDI rippers are just overwhelming chiptune submissions. Generalization wins again...


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