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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 16:12:34 Reply

At 10/13/12 11:58 PM, Slacker013 wrote: Go get yourself a television kid...

Ah, so the media is telling you Romney wants to invade Iran...

Well, I'd rather get my info from unbiased sources, or even better, the candidates themselves...

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 16:26:32 Reply

At 10/18/12 04:12 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/13/12 11:58 PM, Slacker013 wrote: Go get yourself a television kid...
Ah, so the media is telling you Romney wants to invade Iran...

Well, I'd rather get my info from unbiased sources, or even better, the candidates themselves...

B-B-But Mitt's whole platform is that we should begin by showing Iran that our military is willing to strike. Words, not actions and all. Moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf and taking on a battle position. Increase our military planning with Israel for a strike.

What normally happens when policy includes massing aircraft carriers and "showing" Iran our military commitment to stopping them?


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 16:27:01 Reply

At 10/18/12 04:12 PM, LemonCrush wrote: Well, I'd rather get my info from unbiased sources, or even better, the candidates themselves...

You'e likely to get less spin watching FOX News than by listening to Romney. He'll say whatever opinion he thinks will get your vote. Right after telling the next guy he wants to individually rape all Irainan women with the bones of the immolated male population, he'll come to you speaking of roses and peace.

If you don't like what he says, just turn him upside down and shake.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 19:48:37 Reply

At 10/18/12 04:26 PM, JMHX wrote:
B-B-But Mitt's whole platform is that we should begin by showing Iran that our military is willing to strike. Words, not actions and all. Moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf and taking on a battle position. Increase our military planning with Israel for a strike.

What normally happens when policy includes massing aircraft carriers and "showing" Iran our military commitment to stopping them?

That's our own fault for handcuffing ourselves to a religious fanatical nation without condition.

BTW, is that REALLY, Mitt's whole platform?

FWIW, Iran is gonna do what they want, regardless of how "nice" we are to them. Since this is the case, I'd rather us be ready for something (if), than not.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 19:50:28 Reply

At 10/18/12 04:27 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
You'e likely to get less spin watching FOX News than by listening to Romney. He'll say whatever opinion he thinks will get your vote. Right after telling the next guy he wants to individually rape all Irainan women with the bones of the immolated male population, he'll come to you speaking of roses and peace.

If you don't like what he says, just turn him upside down and shake.

What you said goes for both candidates equally. At this point all we have to go on are words and actions.

Obama actually has a record of lying about his foreign/military policy. Romney, not so much. Where are you getting this notion that Romney is somehow a "worse" flip-flopper than "I'll close Gitmo and pull troops from afghanistan" Obama?

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 19:52:04 Reply

At 10/18/12 07:50 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/18/12 04:27 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

Obama actually has a record of lying about his foreign/military policy. Romney, not so much. Where are you getting this notion that Romney is somehow a "worse" flip-flopper than "I'll close Gitmo and pull troops from afghanistan" Obama?

>Why doesn't Barack Obama just use his unlimited dictatorial powers of decree to close Guantanamo

Dohoho.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 19:54:15 Reply

At 10/18/12 07:52 PM, JMHX wrote: >Why doesn't Barack Obama just use his unlimited dictatorial powers of decree to close Guantanamo

Dohoho.

He's done it for other things

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 19:54:52 Reply

At 10/18/12 07:54 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/18/12 07:52 PM, JMHX wrote: >Why doesn't Barack Obama just use his unlimited dictatorial powers of decree to close Guantanamo

Dohoho.
He's done it for other things

So are we both agreed he should be upgraded to Augustus?


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 20:07:04 Reply

At 10/18/12 07:54 PM, JMHX wrote:
So are we both agreed he should be upgraded to Augustus?

Might as well be already.

You know, it's funny. For someone who bitches about Bush so much, he doesn't seem to have any issue continuing and taking advantage of his ideas.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 20:15:23 Reply

Hey, welcome to all of American History. What's your name, you must be new here.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-18 23:18:20 Reply

At 10/18/12 07:50 PM, LemonCrush wrote: Obama actually has a record of lying about his foreign/military policy. Romney, not so much. Where are you getting this notion that Romney is somehow a "worse" flip-flopper than "I'll close Gitmo and pull troops from afghanistan" Obama?

There's a huge difference between making cmpaign promises and then getting a good heaping dose of reality after election and having three distinct platforms from one candidate in the campaign (Primary Romney, Pre-debate Romney, Post-debate Romney).

I'm 100% fine with elected officials who are willing to work around their convictions when presented with tough situations. I'm not fine with candidates whose opinions resemble Duck Hunt level 100.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-19 04:03:58 Reply

Obama is a secret Muslim, Foreign Communist who wants to destroy America. He obeys the commands of the devil and until we get him out of office this country is in peril. Anyone who believes different is part of the Jewish Communist conspiracy for a new world order. They want to destroy western civilization and bring about Sharia law in America and around the world. If that is not a reason for him to not be in power, I don't know what is.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-19 19:09:22 Reply

At 10/19/12 04:03 AM, JeffShort wrote: Obama is a secret Muslim, Foreign Communist who wants to destroy America. He obeys the commands of the devil and until we get him out of office this country is in peril. Anyone who believes different is part of the Jewish Communist conspiracy for a new world order.

The amount of fail in this post is hilarious!!! This gave me a good chuckle!


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-19 19:12:54 Reply

Actually, Obama needs a second term to make good on his campaign promises. The things he promised with the HUGE mess he got, and the Republican Congress limits what he can do. Also, let's not forget that it would take more than 4 years to do all the stuff he promised. By my estimates, Bush has screwed us over so much that it would take 10 MORE YEARS to get this country fixed. THIS is what happens when you let banks do whatever the hell they want, and now that they can't, we have seen moderate improvement, which is good for Obama, and definitely makes the case for a second term. What? You think it could be solved in 4 years? Get off your high horse and look around you.

Hopefully, Obama will hire Clinton as part of his cabinet.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 17:27:05 Reply

At 10/18/12 08:15 PM, JMHX wrote: Hey, welcome to all of American History. What's your name, you must be new here.

I don't recall Washington becoming a dictator. I don't see Eisenhower passing the Patriot Act and starting wars.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 17:29:51 Reply

At 10/18/12 11:18 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
I'm 100% fine with elected officials who are willing to work around their convictions when presented with tough situations. I'm not fine with candidates whose opinions resemble Duck Hunt level 100.

So, flip flopping is okay, as long as you agree with it.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 18:03:14 Reply

At 10/23/12 05:29 PM, LemonCrush wrote: So, flip flopping is okay, as long as you agree with it.

Over simplification. I am fine with changes of position when confronted with facts and reality. This is the mark of a true human. I have respected it when Republican Politicians backed down from their rhetoric and did what is best. I have respected when Democrat Politicians backed down from their rhetoric and done what is best.

What I don't like is the incessant changing of opinions with no reason seemingly other than to please the person being spoken to.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 18:33:01 Reply

At 10/23/12 05:27 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/18/12 08:15 PM, JMHX wrote: Hey, welcome to all of American History. What's your name, you must be new here.
I don't recall Washington becoming a dictator. I don't see Eisenhower passing the Patriot Act and starting wars.

I don't recall ANY American president becoming a dictator. And yeah, Eisenhower never managed a war that quickly got insanely out of hand. He never leaned directly on J. Edgar Hoover for black-bag operations or anything. Eisenhower was a pristine alabaster God in a four-star uniform.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 20:17:42 Reply

At 10/23/12 06:33 PM, JMHX wrote:
I don't recall ANY American president becoming a dictator. And yeah, Eisenhower never managed a war that quickly got insanely out of hand. He never leaned directly on J. Edgar Hoover for black-bag operations or anything. Eisenhower was a pristine alabaster God in a four-star uniform.

Bush and Obama are practically dictators. Difference is, they are much smarter and slick, if you will, about it. Sure they aren't rounding up people for gas chambers, but there's plenty more "dictator-esque" things happening right under your nose.

Eisenhower was given chances to be an imperial dipshit, and turned it down. He was asked to invade Vietnam. He rejected the idea because it wasn't worth the lives of US soldiers. Leave warmongering to "peaceful" presidents who've never served. Like LBJ, FDR, Lincoln, etc.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 20:23:26 Reply

At 10/23/12 08:17 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/23/12 06:33 PM, JMHX wrote:
I don't recall ANY American president becoming a dictator. And yeah, Eisenhower never managed a war that quickly got insanely out of hand. He never leaned directly on J. Edgar Hoover for black-bag operations or anything. Eisenhower was a pristine alabaster God in a four-star uniform.
Bush and Obama are practically dictators. Difference is, they are much smarter and slick, if you will, about it. Sure they aren't rounding up people for gas chambers, but there's plenty more "dictator-esque" things happening right under your nose.

Remember that time all those dictators were term-limited by their Constitution, stood down and were replaced by an opponent from another party? Yeah, neither do I. Calling a president you don't like a 'dictator' is the height of childishness. Come on bro, try harder, you're shaming yourself with that high school garbage. We're spending a ton of money on elections in this dictatorship, you'd think we could at least keep a dictator in power.


Eisenhower was given chances to be an imperial dipshit, and turned it down. He was asked to invade Vietnam. He rejected the idea because it wasn't worth the lives of US soldiers. Leave warmongering to "peaceful" presidents who've never served. Like LBJ, FDR, Lincoln, etc.

Lyndon Johnson served in the Navy during World War II and received a Silver Star for valor. But don't let being wrong about basic facts break your stride. If you're not going to research, you could at least let me know in advance to ignore you.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 20:27:09 Reply

Dictators, historically speaking, aren't very fond of elections and the transfer of power to political rivals. They tend to, oh, I dunno, commit acts of atrocities every now and then to reaffirm their rule, but whatever.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 20:34:17 Reply

At 10/23/12 08:23 PM, JMHX wrote: Lyndon Johnson served in the Navy during World War II and received a Silver Star for valor. But don't let being wrong about basic facts break your stride. If you're not going to research, you could at least let me know in advance to ignore you.

FDR was also the assistant secretary of the navy and wanted to be an active serviceman but WWI ended before that could happen, so there ya go. And Lincoln was a Captain and fought in the Black Hawk War. LemonCrush seems to be on a mission to be wrong about everything.

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-23 20:39:08 Reply

At 10/23/12 08:34 PM, Feoric wrote:
At 10/23/12 08:23 PM, JMHX wrote:
FDR was also the assistant secretary of the navy and wanted to be an active serviceman but WWI ended before that could happen, so there ya go. And Lincoln was a Captain and fought in the Black Hawk War. LemonCrush seems to be on a mission to be wrong about everything.

Is it worth noting that, unlike most individuals, Lyndon Johnson specifically REQUESTED he be sent to a combat zone? Which is just fucking insane in its own right.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-24 16:13:12 Reply

At 10/23/12 08:23 PM, JMHX wrote:
Remember that time all those dictators were term-limited by their Constitution, stood down and were replaced by an opponent from another party? Yeah, neither do I. Calling a president you don't like a 'dictator' is the height of childishness. Come on bro, try harder, you're shaming yourself with that high school garbage. We're spending a ton of money on elections in this dictatorship, you'd think we could at least keep a dictator in power.

Dictators are defined by actions, bot by political process

Regarding LBJ...cry your eyes out about it why dont ya?

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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-24 16:25:45 Reply

At 10/24/12 04:13 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
Regarding LBJ...cry your eyes out about it why dont ya?

Apology for your incorrectness accepted. We should at least be striving for some kind of accuracy, don't you think?


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-25 12:21:41 Reply

At 10/10/12 09:36 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: Now is this really the kinda of spineless sycophantic propaganda poster boy that really understands how to run a country I mean he has a background in Wall Street nothing more.

Are you referring to the war in Afghanistan or Iraq? He was at least faithful in the war in Iraq.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-25 23:59:18 Reply

At 10/25/12 02:14 AM, Austerity wrote: I agree that Obama should not be in power, most of his supporters (if you take the entire world into account) are 1. not American & 2. hate America.

You must be joking, or blowing smoke up our asses, or even both.

I mean seriously, what's wrong with being well-liked in the international community? Considering that the Bush administration rubbed a lot of people {mostly Europe} the wrong way on a lot of ways, someone had to step in and build a bridge towards cooperation, especially considering that most of their economies are going down the toilet now.

I also lol'd at reason number 2, "I sure do hate America, but I do like that President Obama." I guess is what you would think would say. I don't know about everyone else, but I can tell that part of the statement isn't 100% kosher, if at all.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-26 09:40:08 Reply

Don't forget the most popular reason: He IS, in fact, a militant Kenyan Muslim operating in collaboration with avowed radical socialists like the press, academia and non-white people.


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-26 23:07:02 Reply

At 10/26/12 09:40 AM, JMHX wrote: Don't forget the most popular reason: He IS, in fact, a militant Kenyan Muslim operating in collaboration with avowed radical socialists like the press, academia and non-white people.

Also, he never released those college records too...harvard law, someone like him? Of course not without some kind of evil inside help...


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Response to Obama should not be in power. 2012-10-26 23:51:40 Reply

Barack = 6 letters
Hussein = 7 letters
Obama = 5 letters

Do a little transmogrifying and I think you see what we get...


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