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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 12:06:55 Reply

At 10/6/12 02:40 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
I don't listen to CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CBC, or the like so I don't think you will be hearing any pre certified by the proverbial statuesque cookie cutter nonsensical rhetoric out of this one. Perhaps you should go back to debating and mulling over arbitrary topics such as "Gay Marriage" "Abortion" and Obama's birth certificate while some of us are thinking about real world issues.

I don't to any of the aforementioned medias either. Nor do I give a damn about any of the topics you listed. So, who's parroting talking points now?

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 13:03:55 Reply

At 10/7/12 12:06 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/6/12 02:40 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
I don't to any of the aforementioned medias either. Nor do I give a damn about any of the topics you listed. So, who's parroting talking points now?

You walk like a duck and talk like a duck you are a duck or sheep. You don't care than fuck off and stop posting you bug.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 14:21:35 Reply

At 10/7/12 01:03 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: You walk like a duck and talk like a duck you are a duck or sheep. You don't care than fuck off and stop posting you bug.

Man, dem talking points

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 14:29:18 Reply

At 10/7/12 01:03 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/7/12 12:06 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 10/6/12 02:40 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
I don't to any of the aforementioned medias either. Nor do I give a damn about any of the topics you listed. So, who's parroting talking points now?
You walk like a duck and talk like a duck you are a duck or sheep. You don't care than fuck off and stop posting you bug.

Yes you are really getting your point across in throwing insults at people who are trying to engage you in civil conversation. So when somebody has a point differing from you and also has points to prove your insinuations wrong, you have to resort to name calling. And I suppose that I have something coming to me as well for calling you out on your obviously flawed logic and topics.


You haven't seen me, yet.

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 17:54:51 Reply

At 10/7/12 02:29 PM, BloodPact wrote:
Yes you are really getting your point across in throwing insults at people who are trying to engage you in civil conversation.

What I siad goes for everyone incliding myself :-)


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 20:57:26 Reply

At 10/7/12 05:54 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/7/12 02:29 PM, BloodPact wrote:
Yes you are really getting your point across in throwing insults at people who are trying to engage you in civil conversation.
What I siad goes for everyone incliding myself :-)

Then why not take the higher road? Throw a little humility on yourself. Stop with the name calling and show that you are a better person than your opponent. You will be taken more seriously.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 21:32:32 Reply

At 10/7/12 08:57 PM, BloodPact wrote:
Then why not take the higher road? Throw a little humility on yourself. Stop with the name calling and show that you are a better person than your opponent. You will be taken more seriously.

Perhaps my issue is that I get off on pumping my own ego by way of mingling with unwitting and ignorant morons and in that regard shame on me as it is all to easy to prey on the weak minded unwitting sheep even if for an altruistic outcome is desired. I hope in truth that at leased I get through to a few people even if I have to discomfort one or two. Thanx for the suggestions and may peace by onto you :-)


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 21:46:20 Reply

At 10/7/12 09:32 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/7/12 08:57 PM, BloodPact wrote:
Then why not take the higher road? Throw a little humility on yourself. Stop with the name calling and show that you are a better person than your opponent. You will be taken more seriously.
Perhaps my issue is that I get off on pumping my own ego by way of mingling with unwitting and ignorant morons and in that regard shame on me as it is all to easy to prey on the weak minded unwitting sheep even if for an altruistic outcome is desired. I hope in truth that at leased I get through to a few people even if I have to discomfort one or two. Thanx for the suggestions and may peace by onto you :-)

Point taken. So by saying this you admit to being on a egotistical power trip to show that your intellect is above everybody else based on the fact that you think you can. Their arguments are not going to matter to you because you have already decided beforehand that your reasoning is 100% correct and cannot be proven wrong no matter the evidence presented. I believe this explains a lot about your character and it would seem that there is no point in trying to even reason with you anymore.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 22:11:30 Reply

At 10/7/12 09:32 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
Perhaps my issue is that I get off on pumping my own ego by way of mingling with unwitting and ignorant morons and in that regard shame on me as it is all to easy to prey on the weak minded unwitting sheep even if for an altruistic outcome is desired.

Pardon me for not being impressed.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-07 22:21:18 Reply

At 10/5/12 01:22 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: To open minds and restore the constitutional rights to freedom, prosperity, and truth 100% back to the American people and the world.

Something doesn't smell right here.

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-08 00:25:42 Reply

At 10/7/12 09:32 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Perhaps my issue is that I get off on pumping my own ego by way of mingling with unwitting and ignorant morons and in that regard shame on me as it is all to easy to prey on the weak minded unwitting sheep even if for an altruistic outcome is desired. I hope in truth that at leased I get through to a few people even if I have to discomfort one or two. Thanx for the suggestions and may peace by onto you :-)

I get it now...he is the Maitreya...the Buddha who has achieved pure enlightenment and atonement with the Dharma. He is the one who teaches the unwashed masses the path to enlightenment. His ego is satisfied through altruism. His reasoning and knowledge so perfect that he can explain without giving explainations. To post in his thread to bathe in the cleansing waters of Tusita heavan.

I have been a fool to oppose thee, oh wise Buddha!


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-08 16:03:14 Reply

At 10/7/12 10:21 PM, The-Great-One wrote:
Something doesn't smell right here.

Change your diaper.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-08 16:08:30 Reply

At 10/8/12 04:03 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Change your diaper.

Aww cute, you're trying to trash talk. I sense some bullshit though, smells something similar to Insanctuary.

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-08 16:09:49 Reply

At 10/8/12 04:08 PM, The-Great-One wrote:
Aww cute, you're trying to trash talk. I sense some bullshit though, smells something similar to Insanctuary.

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-08 17:38:57 Reply

At 10/8/12 04:08 PM, The-Great-One wrote:
At 10/8/12 04:03 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Change your diaper.
Aww cute, you're trying to trash talk. I sense some bullshit though, smells something similar to Insanctuary.

I'm wondering if he's for real like a guy we had on here back in '08 named Shaggytheclown (he then tried to post under the alias PurePress)...or if he's just yanking our chains as part of a new Devils Advocates Group.

If he is for real I think it is hilarious that he calls everyone on here ignorant and full of ego, and looks down upon us...and then cannot defend himself against anyone who shows him for what he is. Or...he chooses to ignore any serious challenge.

Yep...we are dealing with a being of pure intelligence and enlightenment. Follow him...he will lead us out of the Matrix!


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-08 22:39:48 Reply

At 10/7/12 11:38 AM, TheMason wrote:
Fascist nation would not be capitalized unless it is at the beginning of the sentence. Also, there is no space before puncuation.

Fascism is often capitalized http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 09:13:54 Reply

At 10/8/12 10:39 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Fascism is often capitalized http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Yes...but not the way you used it.

If you are talking about an organized political party (such as Mussolini's Fascist party), then it is capitalized. Just like when you're talking about Republicans, Democrats and Communists.

On the other hand, if you're using it to describe an ideology it is more correct not to capitalize it.

If you're talking about someone who believes in a republican form of government, then republican is not capitalized. (NOTE: we're talking about the form of government here...that goes back to at least ancient Greece). Similarly you do not capitalize democracy or communism when talking about it as a form of government.

Yes, many people do. However, that it is often capitalized does not make it grammatically correct.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 09:50:58 Reply

At 10/9/12 09:13 AM, TheMason wrote:
At 10/8/12 10:39 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
Fascism is often capitalized http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Yes...but not the way you used it.

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 09:52:38 Reply

At 10/9/12 09:13 AM, TheMason wrote:
At 10/8/12 10:39 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Fascism is often capitalized http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Yes...but not the way you used it.

I beg to differ according to Merriam Webster.

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 09:53:38 Reply

At 10/9/12 09:50 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/9/12 09:13 AM, TheMason wrote:
At 10/8/12 10:39 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
Fascism is often capitalized http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Yes...but not the way you used it.
<img src="http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o607/headspin146/Un titled.jpg" border="0" alt="Untitled">

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 16:17:43 Reply

At 10/9/12 09:52 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/9/12 09:13 AM, TheMason wrote:
At 10/8/12 10:39 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Fascism is often capitalized http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Yes...but not the way you used it.
I beg to differ according to Merriam Webster.

I don't need the picture or the link again. In fact I'll cut and paste:

1: often capitalized: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

The Fascisti is Fascist in Italian and it is in reference to a specific political movement/party.

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control (early instances of army fascism and brutality - J. W. Aldridge)

Here it is used in describing a type of behavior and comparing it to fascism as a form of government/leadership. So it is not capitalized.

Seefascism defined for English-language learners

See fascism defined for kids

the rise of Fascism in Europe before World War II

Here it is in reference to a specific political movement.

From the first hours of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union, the propagandists on both sides of the conflict portrayed the struggle in stark, Manichaean language. The totalitarian nature of both regimes made this inevitable. On one side stood Hitler, fascism, the myth of German supremacy; on the other side stood Stalin, communism, and the international proletarian revolution. -Anne Applebaum, New York Review of Books, 25 Oct. 2007

Here it is used to describe a form of government, and like communism, it is written in lower case.

Your first mistake was letting your ego blind you and think you're dealing with someone who is not an intellectual.

Your second was not comprehending what you read. "Often capitalized" means that a word is capitalized in many circumstances...this does NOT mean that it is ALWAYS.

Your third is not reading fully. If you look at the entirity of YOUR own source, you see that it proves me right. Where it is capitalized is when it is talking about a specific party or political movement. BUT when it describes a form of government or just uses it as a word it is in lowercase. Look at the definition of Washington; since it is always...not often, but always...capitalized Webster capitalizes 'Washington' even in the header. But 'fascist' is in lower case.

So I appreciate all the work and effort you put into cutting and pasting a pic of you using paint or something to highlight 'often capitalized' as if you were proving someone else wrong. When in all reality what you were doing is to lessen your credibility.

And before you scream ad hominem...guess what? Argumentum ad hominem is only a fallacy if someone brings up an unrelated characteristic of a person to negate their argument. So if I were to say you were wrong because you're Canadian...that would be an ad hominem fallacy. BUT, for me to point out that you are having some problem with reading comprehension or that you are damaging your credibility and can point to actuall incidences that are related to your argument then it is not an ad hominem fallacy.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 17:34:22 Reply

At 10/9/12 04:17 PM, TheMason wrote:

Arbitrary Opinions much ?


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 18:03:12 Reply

At 10/9/12 05:34 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/9/12 04:17 PM, TheMason wrote:
Arbitrary Opinions much ?

Nope...not arbitrary. Just rules of grammar.

And dude...I just totally pwned you. I used your own source to totally prove you wrong. And all you can say is 'arbitrary opinions'. In the words of the immortal Charlie Sheen:

Winning!

Oh...and you'll engage over silly semantics...but let attacks on your OP's fundamental credibility (reminder: something about fasifiability) slide? Dude, are you Obama's debate coach?


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 18:10:26 Reply

At 10/9/12 06:03 PM, TheMason wrote:
And dude...I just totally pwned you. I used your own source to totally prove you wrong. And all you can say is 'arbitrary opinions'. In the words of the immortal Charlie Sheen:
Winning!
Oh...and you'll engage over silly semantics...but let attacks on your OP's fundamental credibility (reminder: something about fasifiability) slide? Dude, are you Obama's debate coach?

You better make notes as I hardly ever break out the ad hominem attacks but in this case your Ego I am afraid is larger than your brains which is also a prerequisite for mindless voters.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 19:14:00 Reply

At 10/9/12 06:03 PM, TheMason wrote: Nope...not arbitrary. Just rules of grammar.

I'd have to say that grammar rules are pretty dang arbitrary...

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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 19:14:17 Reply

Is this supposed to be like those "You might be a redneck if..." jokes?

You might be a fascist if....


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 19:18:31 Reply

At 10/9/12 07:14 PM, JoS wrote:
Is this supposed to be like those "You might be a redneck if..." jokes?

You might be a fascist if....

Larry the Cable Guy is so lame he is "almost" funny.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-09 19:25:15 Reply

At 10/9/12 07:18 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 10/9/12 07:14 PM, JoS wrote:
Is this supposed to be like those "You might be a redneck if..." jokes?

You might be a fascist if....
Larry the Cable Guy is so lame he is "almost" funny.

Jeff Foxworthy.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-10 15:14:49 Reply

At 10/9/12 07:14 PM, JoS wrote: Is this supposed to be like those "You might be a redneck if..." jokes?

You might be a fascist if....

Also if you think Fascism is a joke you might want to check yourself into a mental health ward at the hospital.


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Response to 13 key signifiers of Fascism. 2012-10-10 16:37:31 Reply

At 10/9/12 06:10 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: You better make notes as I hardly ever break out the ad hominem attacks ...

Since when does roughly 2/3rds of your posts involving some sort of name calling count as 'hardly ever'?

... but in this case your Ego I am afraid is larger than your brains which is also a prerequisite for mindless voters.

You talk about being so informed and such an intellectual that you get an ego boost out of helping those of us in the unwashed masses. And yet you have not established either through the intelligence of your posts, your ability to form an argument, or through any sort of bona fides that you are entitled to any status as an 'intellectual'.

Furthermore, you run from any serious challenge to your intellectually thin arguments. You don't make any significant arguments. So for you to demonstrate such a huge ego as I described above...and then criticize anyone else's...is hypocritical and a sign of a pathological mental disorder.

However, there are several of us on here who do have our bona fides.


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