Be a Supporter!

Getting Your Music Heard

  • 3,702 Views
  • 66 Replies
New Topic Respond to this Topic
bearskin
bearskin
  • Member since: Jul. 20, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 02:16 PM Reply

Hi, I'm just doing some research. I was wondering how many of you have trouble getting a lot of people to listen to your music and getting feedback on it, and if you find this frustrating. What would you think of a service/website that targets you specifically and tries to help you get lots of people to listen to your music and helps you find the music of people like you? Would you want to use something like this? What minimum needs of yours would you expect this to meet?

Buoy
Buoy
  • Member since: May. 18, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 40
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 02:22 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 02:16 PM, bearskin wrote: Hi, I'm just doing some research. I was wondering how many of you have trouble getting a lot of people to listen to your music and getting feedback on it, and if you find this frustrating.

Almost everyone, regardless of their popularity. We always compare ourselves to people who are more popular than us and feel bad about not being that popular ourselves.

What would you think of a service/website that targets you specifically and tries to help you get lots of people to listen to your music and helps you find the music of people like you? Would you want to use something like this? What minimum needs of yours would you expect this to meet?

Are you starting a label? If not, I guess you're making a site like Soundcloud or the audio portal. Thing about sites like that is, the majority of the people who would want to visit such a site are music producers. Not regular old listeners.

bearskin
bearskin
  • Member since: Jul. 20, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 02:39 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 02:22 PM, Buoy wrote: Thing about sites like that is, the majority of the people who would want to visit such a site are music producers. Not regular old listeners.

Do you think that enough music producers would want to listen to other producers' music, bringing attention to a song and attracting regular listeners? I also think people who run blogs would want to come to a website like this to find certain music before anyone else does.

Buoy
Buoy
  • Member since: May. 18, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 40
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 02:43 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 02:39 PM, bearskin wrote: Do you think that enough music producers would want to listen to other producers' music, bringing attention to a song and attracting regular listeners? I also think people who run blogs would want to come to a website like this to find certain music before anyone else does.

Sure, that's possible of course

bearskin
bearskin
  • Member since: Jul. 20, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 02:51 PM Reply

So what in a website, as an artist, would make you want to use it or not use it?

Blackhole12
Blackhole12
  • Member since: Sep. 21, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 15
Game Developer
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:00 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 02:51 PM, bearskin wrote: So what in a website, as an artist, would make you want to use it or not use it?

Reach.

The problem with trying to recreate soundcloud or newgrounds is that the only reason these sites are useful is because they are known to millions of people and thus grant significant amounts of exposure. Hence you have a classic chicken and egg problem, where you need listeners to attracted producers, but you need producers to attract listeners. Some sites have attempted to leach off, say, reddit, but these have only seen moderate success. In addition, attempting to expose new artists is very difficult because most of them suck horribly.

bearskin
bearskin
  • Member since: Jul. 20, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:16 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 03:00 PM, Blackhole12 wrote:
At 9/29/12 02:51 PM, bearskin wrote: So what in a website, as an artist, would make you want to use it or not use it?
Reach.

The problem with trying to recreate soundcloud or newgrounds is that the only reason these sites are useful is because they are known to millions of people and thus grant significant amounts of exposure. Hence you have a classic chicken and egg problem, where you need listeners to attracted producers, but you need producers to attract listeners. Some sites have attempted to leach off, say, reddit, but these have only seen moderate success. In addition, attempting to expose new artists is very difficult because most of them suck horribly.

Well, I think a site such as this would definitely first attract the producers, who are likely listeners as well. Hopefully, they would want to listen to other people's tracks. Or perhaps the site should implement a system in which producers are encouraged to listen to other tracks because the site will give their tracks more of chance to be heard. Like how Newgrounds implicitly/de facto has this system because people are likely to review your music if you review theirs. This could possibly be built into the website?

Additionally, what would you think of website that still uses rating to filter out the music that simply sucks, as you mention, but encourages listeners to listen to the less popular music rather than the most popular or the "Hot"?

Omegeist
Omegeist
  • Member since: Apr. 24, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 09
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:28 PM Reply

My main problem is zero bombers, people will 0 every piece of music other than there own just to improve their 'odds' of obtaining popularity. People who do zero bomb everything usually have terrible music to begin with. These zero bombing morons need to learn that the main function of this audio portal isn't for obtaining popularity but for getting feedback and working with others. These insects are disrupting the rating system and causing trouble in the audio portal line up preventing people who actually work hard on their music from getting the feedback they need.
There are some ways to prevent a few of these problems.
1) stay online and closely watch your songs rating. If someone likes it and rates it '5' and your song has a solid rating of '5' quickly rate it yourself at '4' so its not a solid five. The reason for doing this is because the majority of the audio portal believes that if a song has a solid '5' then that means you rated it that way yourself for attention and they will Z bomb it 90 percent of the time lowering your rating significantly and spoiling peoples opinion on your song.
2) Never immediately rate your own song '5' (refer to reason 1)
3) If you want attention review other peoples music and kindly ask for them to review your music.
4) Huge descriptions make people believe you spent ages working on your song, regardless of whether or not you actually did.
5) try to reply to your song's comments because people love it when they leave a review and get a reply from the author.

Buoy
Buoy
  • Member since: May. 18, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 40
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:34 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 03:28 PM, Omegeist wrote: My main problem is zero bombers etc

read his post not just the title

dem0lecule
dem0lecule
  • Member since: Feb. 17, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 11
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 04:01 PM Reply

NOT this 0-bomb thread again...


What comes around goes around...

BBS Signature
Back-From-Purgatory
Back-From-Purgatory
  • Member since: Dec. 11, 2004
  • Online!
Forum Stats
Moderator
Level 33
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 04:05 PM Reply

Guys, read the thread or don't bother posting. Not once was 0 bombing brought up.


Audio/BBS Mod
News: I want to write more metal... - Music: The Inevitability - Art: Kira
\/\/\/ Click the sig for fun times! \/\/\/

BBS Signature
Back-From-Purgatory
Back-From-Purgatory
  • Member since: Dec. 11, 2004
  • Online!
Forum Stats
Moderator
Level 33
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 04:07 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 04:05 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: Guys, read the thread or don't bother posting. Not once was 0 bombing brought up.

Elaborating... The OP is not talking about 0 bombing, and you shouldn't either, because it's a dead horse, and it's been beaten...

Thoroughly.

Audio/BBS Mod
News: I want to write more metal... - Music: The Inevitability - Art: Kira
\/\/\/ Click the sig for fun times! \/\/\/

BBS Signature
bearskin
bearskin
  • Member since: Jul. 20, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 04:31 PM Reply

The purpose of this thread is to discuss new methods for a website to distribute music so that artists can get more of their work listened to. The theory is that some people may actually have very good music but it doesn't get listened to by enough people or by the "right" people because of a fault of the existing system. So I think everyone will generally want their music to get listened to more, but do you think there is an actual problem of people not getting music listened to enough or rather the listens it deserves, which of course is very subjective.

I would also like to discuss problems that people have with current systems, such as Newgrounds or Soundcloud. One may be 0-bombing. I don't want this thread to turn into a thread of people bitching about 0-bombing or other problems though. I also think the way most websites have a list of the most recent tracks and the most popular tracks causes problems because if you post a song at a certain time it will eventually disappear off the most recent list, and if it doesn't become popular right away it becomes very hard to get people to listen to your music and to give you feedback. Of course there are many ways you can accomplish this with existing websites, but it can take a lot of work. I don't think laziness should be reward, but I think this process can be made easier so that more people can get the listens and feedback they want.

weiss993
weiss993
  • Member since: Sep. 7, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 01
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 04:38 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 02:16 PM, bearskin wrote: Hi, I'm just doing some research. I was wondering how many of you have trouble getting a lot of people to listen to your music and getting feedback on it, and if you find this frustrating. What would you think of a service/website that targets you specifically and tries to help you get lots of people to listen to your music and helps you find the music of people like you? Would you want to use something like this? What minimum needs of yours would you expect this to meet?

Well it's like this. We are all small fish in a very big pond. Put it simply, we are all trying to get the same thing achieved but with a lot of competition

bearskin
bearskin
  • Member since: Jul. 20, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 01:44 AM Reply

At 9/29/12 04:38 PM, weiss993 wrote:
At 9/29/12 02:16 PM, bearskin wrote: Hi, I'm just doing some research. I was wondering how many of you have trouble getting a lot of people to listen to your music and getting feedback on it, and if you find this frustrating. What would you think of a service/website that targets you specifically and tries to help you get lots of people to listen to your music and helps you find the music of people like you? Would you want to use something like this? What minimum needs of yours would you expect this to meet?
Well it's like this. We are all small fish in a very big pond. Put it simply, we are all trying to get the same thing achieved but with a lot of competition

I agree, but do you care to elaborate on this? Are you okay with the existing system, then? I don't think there's a set limit of the number of people who can "make it." Of course there's a lot of competition, but I think there can always be room for more artists, considering that people can listen to many different artists and that there are niche audiences.

CFTA21
CFTA21
  • Member since: Jan. 2, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 01
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 01:56 AM Reply

Yeah, I definitely feel that becoming really popular shouldn't just be about being in the right spot at the right time or getting this one person to listen to it and say it's good. So, yeah I do feel that more music should be judged on the actual quality of said music rather than other factors. I do fear that this may accelerate the growth of our single-oriented music culture nowadays (Is this a problem, the future, or just a natural trend? I don't know). Furthermore, I mean, why do people use soundcloud and newgrounds mainly - to get discovered, to let some people online hear their stuff, to just get feedback and get better, or a combination of all three?

Also, I am worried too that some people might suck or some good genre music might be placed in front of people who wouldn't appreciate it, so how would that work?

tl;dr Yeah, I definitely like the premise and I think it'd be cool to hear more peoples' opinions/ideas/concerns about it.

Bafana
Bafana
  • Member since: Mar. 12, 2010
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 20
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 08:09 AM Reply

The only time I have trouble getting listens is when I do nothing... It's not a case of 'if you build it they will come.

It requires effort! NG is fine, Soundcloud is fine... Hell youtube is fine. It's up to the producer to get out there and interact with people. PM people you think might like your track, do a collaboration, take part in a contest, joined forums, comment on other peoples music and ask for the same in return. Jump on Facebook groups and talk to other people. You can't sell a secret.

Negativity doesnt help either. If a track sucks and you've got nothing useful to say, dont review it. If you cop a bad review, or a troll review, respond positively.

Don't just sit there and rage about your meaningless rating, low view count etc if you've done little to NOTHING.

Peace.


BBS Signature
DJDela
DJDela
  • Member since: Jan. 22, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 12
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 09:07 AM Reply

At 9/30/12 08:09 AM, Bafana wrote:

:PM people you think might like your track

OMG, please don't, because everyone hates that, and the chances are that you are just going to get yourself removed from someone's favorite list.

GumsOfGabby
GumsOfGabby
  • Member since: Aug. 30, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 01
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 09:55 AM Reply

Instead of trying to get people to listen to your music, focus on making it good first. Once it starts to get good, people will share it around, blog about it, facebook it...like an STI.

Seriously, just focus on improving your sound until YOU think it's good enough for other people to listen to.

Deshiel
Deshiel
  • Member since: Mar. 1, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Supporter
Level 12
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 12:03 PM Reply

For some reason, I'm getting more feedback from low-quality tracks than the higher-quality ones.

dem0lecule
dem0lecule
  • Member since: Feb. 17, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 11
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 06:03 PM Reply

At 9/30/12 01:44 AM, bearskin wrote: Are you okay with the existing system, then? I don't think there's a set limit of the number of people who can "make it." Of course there's a lot of competition, but I think there can always be room for more artists, considering that people can listen to many different artists and that there are niche audiences.

The existing system is fine and robust.

It doesn't matter how you promote the artists. It will aways have flaws that you cannot fix. Remember NG ranking system gives results by user-generated contents. There is always lesser people who 'made it' than who don't, no matter where and what system, Cpt. Obvious.

You are always going to have blokes who constantly whores about the negativities. It is the user him/herself who cannot solve their problems, not because of the system. Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.

There are 3 kinds of people. You have illiteracy idiots who cannot cope with the system and dropped out. Then smartass and jackass will do these to survive:

- Cope with the system by using positive way such as smart promotions and involving in the community.
- Exploit the system by cheating, hacking, 0-Bombing (e.g NG, ModArchive) and spamming.


What comes around goes around...

BBS Signature
Blackhole12
Blackhole12
  • Member since: Sep. 21, 2006
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 15
Game Developer
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 02:23 AM Reply

I'm going to chuck in an idea here taken from CTGMusic, where the people who wrote the most reviews would get their songs promoted on the front page, with the caveat that the reviews must be at least 200 words and if they aren't reasonably thoughtful and constructive they will be flagged by moderators and removed. In addition, writing a review was the only way to actually affect a song's rating, which resulted in lots of helpful feedback, but in turn made it so if no one reviewed your song, you were doomed to obscurity. A slightly modified system that rewarded you only for reviewing songs that had few or no reviews could potentially be more effective.

Of course, if your site loses most of its active userbase, some dickhead can come in, be the only one reviewing songs and horribly abuse the system.

Earstorm
Earstorm
  • Member since: Sep. 1, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 04
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 05:24 PM Reply

The main problem I see with sites such as NG and SC are that there is such a wide variety of artists that don't contribute, they post their (usually crappy) tracks up and expect to get reviews/play/ratings back either without doing anything within the community or by spamming their music everywhere.

retrobox2
retrobox2
  • Member since: Mar. 31, 2012
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 01
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 05:59 PM Reply

At 9/30/12 09:55 AM, GumsOfGabby wrote: Instead of trying to get people to listen to your music, focus on making it good first. Once it starts to get good, people will share it around, blog about it, facebook it...like an STI.

Seriously, just focus on improving your sound until YOU think it's good enough for other people to listen to.

God finally! OK first of all the whole advertise things is really really important but how do you expect to advertise a product that sucks and have good results. You got to concentrate on doing good music and getting involve in contest, reviews, helping people and things like that and then a smart advertise strategy. Really my first songs sucked and they have no reviews and low views but my newer songs still sucks but they have more reviews, better scores and way more views.

Now for the thread, if I am going to join a community the first thing that I look is the interactive system between the users. I have to see that I am not joining just another crap page where the people post their songs and doesn't do anything. One of the reasons because I got here was because of the contest and forums, I just love to see how you can interact with other producers in your same situation and learn from them. Now if your plans are starting a new audio portal you have to go in a new direction because in my opinion is not easy to compete with big sites like NG or SC. Maybe a new system in terms of how people share their music can do the first step. Your page needs something new or special that will make people say hey this is good I am going to start using this new community because it has something that soundcloud or newgrounds doesn't have. For me that can be your advantage if you are going to make a new audio community.

Sorry for my English.

Nubblecakes
Nubblecakes
  • Member since: Jul. 31, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 06:11 PM Reply

In my humble opinion, two things could happen to the audio portal that would go a long way:

First, and I'm not sure if this has been brought up in the past a lot or not, but a more robust genre selection for music will allow users to find EXACTLY what they want to hear. I personally am pretty open-minded regarding electronic music, and I tend to have "phases" that determine which kind of music I want to listen to. Sometimes I really want to listen to some airy, uplifting melodic trance, and other times I want to mellow out to some down tempo. I think it would be nice for artists if they could be more specific about genres when publishing a song on the portal.

It doesn't have to come down to things like different types of DnB (Jungle, Liquid, etc.), but separating it by slightly broader genres like trance, techno, dnb, down tempo, dance, house, and ambiance; would definitely allow users to find a specific style of music much easier.

Secondly, and this is something I spontaneously thought of after reading this thread, but a system in the audio portal that encourages listeners to show off songs they liked would help out artists immensely. Maybe something like a notice that pops up after you rate/score/review a song that suggests something like "Tell the community about this song if you liked it." Subtle things like that can go a long way.

BrokenDeck
BrokenDeck
  • Member since: Jun. 7, 2003
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Moderator
Level 39
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 06:23 PM Reply

At 10/2/12 06:11 PM, Nubblecakes wrote:
Secondly, and this is something I spontaneously thought of after reading this thread, but a system in the audio portal that encourages listeners to show off songs they liked would help out artists immensely.

This already exists. It's called your "favorites" section.

Maybe something like a notice that pops up after you rate/score/review a song that suggests something like "Tell the community about this song if you liked it." Subtle things like that can go a long way.

Pop-ups are far from subtle I think. Personally, I think pop-ups are annoying.

Nubblecakes
Nubblecakes
  • Member since: Jul. 31, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 06:39 PM Reply

Does favoriting a song really "alert" other users? It would only have a real effect when a user who has lots of traffic through their profile (e.g., other users/artists who are popular amongst the community) favorites something. If it were just some random shmuck like me who favorited a song, it would literally have no effect. I don't have a following of any kind.

And yeah a literal pop up would be pretty annoying. i meant it could be more of a little notice that's integrated in to the web page that appears or something when you rate a submission. It doesn't have to interrupt the user's browsing or anything.

zelazon
zelazon
  • Member since: Oct. 2, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 02
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 07:07 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 02:16 PM, bearskin wrote: Hi, I'm just doing some research. I was wondering how many of you have trouble getting a lot of people to listen to your music and getting feedback on it, and if you find this frustrating.

Yes and no... The reason why I'm impartial to the matters is that when you make music in the audio portal, you come along with the expectations that hopefully people will listen to it. If you're like some of the more popular artist here, you'll find it relatively easier to gain attention from the members of the site more so than individuals who have not achieve the same level of exposure.

I guess the level of feedback correlates to the amount of advertising you do with your work, and making sure that it's the song that you want to advertise. Some of the best methods I find is giving constructive feedback to individual and asking for feedback from them.

What would you think of a service/website that targets you specifically and tries to help you get lots of people to listen to your music and helps you find the music of people like you?

This has been tried before, and has failed because the amount of people who want exposure far outweighs the listener base the site might have. Most of us who surf the audio forums are artist ourselves, which makes it difficult to make others listen to our songs when they've already made songs themselves.

Would you want to use something like this?

I would because it's another opportunity to let the community hear my works so I can improve much more than the fairly low amount of constructive criticism I already receive... but I also assume that the level of exposure wouldn't be that great either.

What minimum needs of yours would you expect this to meet?

The site being made? I suppose that's it.

For some reason, I'm getting more feedback from low-quality tracks than the higher-quality ones.

That's pretty typical... and the reason are because it's easier to call out the flaws of a low-quality song vs. a high quality one. I, personally, don't think it's the best way to go about it, but it's what I've observed over time.

dem0lecule
dem0lecule
  • Member since: Feb. 17, 2008
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 11
Blank Slate
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 07:21 PM Reply

At 10/2/12 05:24 PM, Earstorm wrote: The main problem I see with sites such as NG and SC are that there is such a wide variety of artists that don't contribute, they post their (usually crappy) tracks up and expect to get reviews/play/ratings back either without doing anything within the community or by spamming their music everywhere.

A thousand times hail to this. You sir just made my day.

You have butthurts who don't give a shit to anyone but in the end expect other to return something for them. I can see many 'faces' posted on here, don't really want to point out. There is a fucking "Me, me & me" group of artists who self-proclaims they are prodigies. Because of these "prodigies", you get a strong influence of corruption. Voi-fuck-la!

Blackhole12's solution turns out to be the only best. I also want to add something to his solutions, is the comments will be rated by other users, takes save & blame on unjudged comment. The more positive points he/she getting, the higher chance he/she will get featured. Do this on statistic ratio.


What comes around goes around...

BBS Signature
Neon-Bard
Neon-Bard
  • Member since: Aug. 3, 2011
  • Offline.
Forum Stats
Member
Level 09
Musician
Response to Getting Your Music Heard Oct. 2nd, 2012 @ 08:43 PM Reply

Hey guys, I see some really good points being made here. I can only agree with most of them, but I would like to add a little 'twist' into the discussion (nothing serious, but simply something to consider). Obviously, as most know, artists essentially want to be acknowledged and appreciated through their creations...that may sound slightly cheesy but guess what? It's true.

I think we can all agree that at some point or another we have all said "Ah man...I really wish people would listen to my music more!" We don't all say it out of hopes of being famous (though some do), we simply want the chance to be recognized for what we create.

In fact, it wasn't until very recently that I finally decided it was time to start up in the forums here and talk with other musicians/artists (along with writing more reviews). I just felt that I had to start having more of a presence by participating and sharing my own ideas. By nature, I'm quite shy (even on the interwebz...yeah that's odd I know, don't judge :P ), but even so I am reluctant to post this very message because of that fact. Yeah I make music, but I don't always want to discuss with others due to a variety of factors. For those who are like me, and I'm willing to bet there's a few, there are times where we have nothing substantial to say at the time. In my case, I had to observe and read what people say around here for the longest time to gauge what it would be like to converse around the site. Hell...it took me over a year to finally say anything on here! Hahahaha! :D

Anyway enough about me...this is getting too long and I'm willing to bet there are a few 'TL;DR' faces happening. My main point is that it takes a bit of courage to want to make your music heard regardless of the site you post it on. I commend everyone who posts their stuff in the audio portal (except for the obvious trolls but anyway.....)

P.S. If I have offended anyone (hopefully I have not) then I apologize! Apologies for the long post.


If you have a moment, check out some of my work:
[Music here on Newgrounds] [Soundcloud]

BBS Signature