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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 07:47 PM Reply

At 9/17/12 03:15 PM, TomFulp wrote: We will accomplish great things with your support.

done and done!


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 08:19 PM Reply

Here's a bit of motivation:

A year of supporter status costs less than two months of WoW, or half the price of a new store-bought game.

I hope this helps.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 08:31 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 08:19 PM, Painbringer wrote: I hope this helps.

But $25 is a quarter of $100.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 08:55 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 04:21 PM, voter96 wrote: *turns off, and punishes self for being an asshole*

Until you've gotten your parents to pay for supporter and worked it off in chores, you are not sufficiently punished.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 09:32 PM Reply

Just a thought, but don't those of us who opt-in to the finances system also get rewarded for views/clicks on our user page ads and those alongside our games and movies?

So those people who are supporting Newgrounds are then no longer supporting Newgrounds Artists quite as much. I understand those ad placements don't pay out as much as an in-game/movie ad, and only a small percentage of the total userbase is actually going to pay to support the site.. but that's still a little concerning.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 09:34 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 02:40 PM, sweet21 wrote:
At 9/19/12 02:36 PM, TheInformation wrote:
That does not make me happy.
Sorry for my poor english, by the way. : (
You can turn off A and M, if you do those things should not show up. By default A rated content is disabled. HOWEVER A rated content still appears in "newest" and "hottest" games/moves/art section. I assume this is what you are getting at. If so I agree. In fact....look down Tom. See that? On the bottom right? "hentai oral," filtering that out and keeping it from the public will help with appearances overall.

Just leaving there makes you look kinda reckless.

Even if I had to the money to support the site with... I get caught between wanting to support the place where I've met a lot of the animators/musicians I know today and being too ashamed to admit that I'm a regular patron here. It's because I've always had reservations about the reputation Newgrounds can have for being full of porn and trolls, etc. I respect the measures that have been taken since the revamp to curb the levels of general idiocy, though. Other than the above statement, I can't really think of anything else to help support the site and its reputation or appearance.
Has it ever been said why ad networks keep kicking NG? I'm honestly asking 'why?' No rhetoric.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 09:36 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 07:33 PM, Xanorin wrote: I've been lurking around here for at least ten years now, watching Newgrounds make so many wonderful works possible, and I'll gladly put in my 25 bucks. The problem: my country doesn't have paypal yet (though I'm working on making my own one possible) and I need to know a way to donate otherwise. Any info is appreciated.

Viewing Newgrounds as one of the last indie strongholds in the world, let's make it stay that way ^_^

Er.. nvm, turns out I don't even need paypal to do that. At least it's not mentioned at step 2/3. Be there soon.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 10:25 PM Reply

I enjoy newgrounds and wish to support it, but I won't just give away my money. My suggestion is offer more options in the NG store, expand with new items etc and i would possibly buy stuff from there, indirectly supporting you.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 10:57 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 04:21 PM, voter96 wrote: *turns off, and punishes self for being an asshole*

I hope you put your penis in a mouse-trap. Only that punishment will suffice.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 19th, 2012 @ 11:24 PM Reply

Well, Newgrounds is like the only site I turn off Adblock and I kinda enjoy adds over here. Could we get the adds put a the complete bottom of the page so we could look into a (not-flash) time waster some time? Or maybe we could have a turn on turn off on the supporter things? Also I'm lazy and surprisingly I have money right now (sadly it won't last), can I buy it several time to increase the time I won't have to renew it?

Also, are you a little bit too gentle when it come to delete old junk?

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 02:27 AM Reply

At 9/19/12 06:53 PM, dragoswrath wrote: I have a bad feeling that operation 'give us $25' isn't working too well.

Why? I've seen tons of people write in this thread that they donated. Not to mention there's most likely more people who didn't post.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 04:15 AM Reply

It seems like everyone's adding their two cents on what newgrounds is or should be, and while I did buy the supporter thingy and would have if it costed more, I think there are some ideas being pushed by users that ring a little wrong to me. Ideas like newgrounds needing to move into the mobile market, or sharing links easier, etc.

Also the following is purely my own opinion based on my own limited observations and experiences.

Newgrounds is what it's catch phrase implies, 'everything by everyone', it's first and foremost a place for creators and creatively inclined people. from that follows the audience. It is not the place where the big-dog sponsorships are given out, it's not a cutting edge competitor for either videos or games because it dabbles in so many different areas.

What brings me to newgrounds is not the occasional game I play, song I listen to or animation I watch, though I do enjoy that, sadly the internet is so vast now, and other websites so carefully crafted to specialize in those things individually, that I find myself in other places when I look to fulfil those needs.

What DOES bring to newgrounds is the creation element. Game jams, movie jams, competitions, people PMing me asking for tips or advice, finding people to work on a project with me, or sharing progress of a project I'm working on. I honestly believe that at its heart, THIS is where newgrounds' strength lies.

If this is true in a broader sense, then relying on advertisements might cause NG to always be left in the financial dust of the bigger and more specialized companies/sites, but this recent push for supporter contributions has me thinking a bit. In looking at the list of contributors so far, I notice more and more that it's made up of either A) creative contributors to the site OR B) long time invested members, familiar with contributors and the NG community/staff.

I want more than anything to see NG success, because any success I could claim in my career I stem solely from newgrounds and its influence in my creative development. I think the way things are going, ads are less and less the way to go, since the rate competitive websites are growing at far exceeds newgrounds, thus NG never has the upper edge.

HOWEVER the loyalty of contributors will always be there, and I feel that if NG were more tailored to fit those needs for the supporter contribution, not only would you get these support payment purchases from already loyal creators or visitors, you'll draw in more and more creatively minded people from elsewhere. For examples, when 'Swivel' is released (a SWF to video conversion tool), easily something flash animators REALLY would love, NG familiar or not, making the program apply a small NG watermark unless they are a NG supporter would both support the justification of spreading the software, but call attention to creative people to a creative community, and give them more intensive to become a part of it, especially if there were other perks to the supporter badge, IE exclusive forums, shorter judgement periods on the portal, creative resources and API tools exclusive to NG supporters. It would turn a donation purchase into something they gain from, being pulled in for one thing and gaining access to creative tools in more areas than they know how to do with.

If the creative side of newgrounds expansion is focused on and pushed more than ads, visitors and sponsorship, focused instead on things like regular jams, with prizes (spending NG money on game jam prizes instead of sponsorships as much) the place would begin to flow the creative juices it already encourages. Get the Lit portal out there, show writers around the web there's a door open for them to contribute and get attention and even prizes for their contribution and collaboration with other artists.

Anyhow, they are my random ramblings. No real point to them, other than I'm happy to see an option to repay NG as a contributor for all it has done for me, and think if there's a direction to go in that will help its growth, this is somewhere to look at more, but adding more insentives to draw in creative people from elsewhere instead of the already loyal people.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 04:25 AM Reply

you have my support

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 06:58 AM Reply

So...if I "support" Newgrounds, then you get less ad revenue from me? How does that make any sense at all?

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 09:02 AM Reply

At 9/20/12 04:15 AM, Jazza wrote: It would turn a donation purchase into something they gain from, being pulled in for one thing and gaining access to creative tools in more areas than they know how to do with.

The only issue with that is if it offers way too much and it cases the supporter option to turn into more of an exclusive membership as oppose to just generally supporting NG.
Some things may be okay to be offered as perks, but it shouldn't become extremely blatant in the differences and the supporters shouldn't get so many special privileges, because then it takes the "everything by everyone" and it starts to diminish that factor. I know that there will be people who might just up and leave the site when they realize that the perks that can only be obtained by paying can be gotten in other places for free.
When you turn the donation into a membership fee, it starts to ostracize people, and there's a chance of it becoming a major rift in the community, and the slogan may as well change into "everything by everyone who pays for it".

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 09:36 AM Reply

At 9/17/12 03:19 PM, LiquidFire wrote: Of course I'll support newgrounds <3

support newgrounds for the win!!

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 12:16 PM Reply

Come the 28th of this month, I'll do that supporter thingy-majig.

PAYDAY, YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 12:19 PM Reply

At 9/20/12 06:58 AM, Listen2Reason wrote: So...if I "support" Newgrounds, then you get less ad revenue from me? How does that make any sense at all?

They only get like 2 cents per click out, so to come up with $25 worth of clickouts you will need to click approximately 205,465,100 ads in a year.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 12:31 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 06:53 PM, dragoswrath wrote: I have a bad feeling that operation 'give us $25' isn't working too well.

I just love browsing the site without ads so that alone has made it worth implementing. Also it's doing fine so far, the question is how long it will sustain a reasonable daily join-up.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 12:39 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 09:32 PM, bumblebirds wrote: So those people who are supporting Newgrounds are then no longer supporting Newgrounds Artists quite as much. I understand those ad placements don't pay out as much as an in-game/movie ad, and only a small percentage of the total userbase is actually going to pay to support the site.. but that's still a little concerning.

This has been a concern for us as well. The loading ads are still in place and those are what get the best results. When it comes to in-page ads, the amount generated and the impact from a few hundred (even thousand) ad-free users vs the monthly 13-15 million visitors is pretty negligible, especially if we can get ad-block users to become a supporters. Finally, money from supporters allows us to maintain the staff and keep the site going, so everyone benefits from a healthier NG.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 01:01 PM Reply

At 9/18/12 10:23 AM, gapmunky wrote:
At 9/18/12 10:06 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/18/12 09:16 AM, Abracadabra123 wrote: Stop making meetings all around the world. You'll save money and it's pointless.
Already have.
So no more Luis filled holidays? :(

I think Luis always paid for those himself - he better always be about, I wanna get that man a metre of beer one day


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 01:05 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 09:34 PM, KaDoYuu wrote: Even if I had to the money to support the site with... I get caught between wanting to support the place where I've met a lot of the animators/musicians I know today and being too ashamed to admit that I'm a regular patron here. It's because I've always had reservations about the reputation Newgrounds can have for being full of porn and trolls, etc. I respect the measures that have been taken since the revamp to curb the levels of general idiocy, though. Other than the above statement, I can't really think of anything else to help support the site and its reputation or appearance.
Has it ever been said why ad networks keep kicking NG? I'm honestly asking 'why?' No rhetoric.

It usually comes down to someone bringing something to the attention of an advertiser and some general systems that screw us over.

For example there is a service called Double Verify that marketing firms use when buying ad placements on sites. Because Newgrounds contains adult content, we get flagged. It doesn't matter that we won't run those campaigns on the adult content. So when CPMStar pitches the sites it represents to a major brand, NG is excluded from the pitch because we could trigger a flag and hurt the chances for their entire network.

Then there are specific scenarios. We were dropped by ad networks when the VTech Massacre game was in the news. Google dropped us from Adsense over a pornographic STORY someone wrong on their blog. Most recently we lost a new ad company because someone with an "Ad industry watchdog" TUMBLR posted a picture of some ads next to a Flash celebrating Hitler (it was rated E).

One of the most gut wrenching was two years ago, when someone got mad at us over a game called GAY BUS. It was a simple game where you drove a rainbow bus and ran over sailors on your way to the gay bar (set to Gay Bar by Electric 6). The game was ridiculous but this guy decided it HAD TO GO. He organized a protest group and they email spammed me and NG advertisers with complaints. Coincidentally, we had landed our single biggest ad campaign of all time (Christmas was approaching, holiday ad spending is always the highest), and that advertiser DROPPED US after receiving complaints.

To top it all off, the creator of the game decided to remove it after also receiving pressure... But that was after NG took the hit.

BTW if anyone wonders, NG is totally PRO GAY and PRO GAY MARRIAGE. Just tossing it out there.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 01:06 PM Reply

At 9/19/12 12:53 AM, mohawkade wrote: I propose an Idea to Tom Fulp!

Another way to get user support, with all the artwork submitted to NG, would it be possible for those that get front-paged or receive a certain amount of popularity to offer print sales of their works through NG, with NG getting a cut of the purchase?

Prints on art is quite a good idea. If you had a way to do individual prints at a low cost, then send them, that would be very impressive. The art here is astounding, and doesn't get enough praise really. It's been my top box on the front page since we could move them around.

But then, perhaps it isn't, I have no idea about the costs of that.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 05:14 PM Reply

At 9/20/12 01:05 PM, TomFulp wrote: BTW if anyone wonders, NG is totally PRO GAY and PRO GAY MARRIAGE. Just tossing it out there.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 05:49 PM Reply

That sucks. "Everything by Everyone" is double-edged. I know I wouldn't be nearly as inspired to animate today, if this site weren't here. I'd support it for that reason alone.. (y'know.. when I'm in better financial straits)
Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my post.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 07:09 PM Reply

I've illegally placed oldschool and newschool Newgrounds stickers all around Ohio and Georiga inside random phonebooths, telephone poles, corkboards, etc. I risked going to jail for this site countless times. WHERES MY FUCKING SUPPORTER BADGE? Who knows how much traffic I've driven to this site by word of mouth? No one, but I've been around for 14 years so it's likely I've made a bit of impact because I have always supported this site, in person, and on the net.


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 07:12 PM Reply

I'll go ahead and add that all the accusations against me by Mod's and staff were completely false and I've never done anything to rape the trust of the inner-community, staff or mod's and the treatment I received by certain staff and mod's months ago was completely uncalled for and you should all apologize to me for being dicks.

Who spent countless hours modding the Audio portal? Who made thousands more icons than most of the community staff and other mods? CAST DID, SO STOP BEING MEAN TO ME. >:(


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 07:56 PM Reply

is anyone else confused?


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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 08:34 PM Reply

At 9/20/12 01:05 PM, TomFulp wrote: BTW if anyone wonders, NG is totally PRO GAY and PRO GAY MARRIAGE. Just tossing it out there.

I didn't think I could respect you more Tom, but, as a bisexual male I have to say I do now. :)
Thank you so much.

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Response to Support Newgrounds! Sep. 20th, 2012 @ 08:48 PM Reply

I would rather use paypal or a gift card or something. The least exposure possible for my personal credit card information the better. I'm sure Newgrounds doesn't want a playstation network type security breach with all that credit info!

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