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At 5/20/04 04:31 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: If religion gets banned, then what in gods name will old people do all day? Bingo is only on a couple of times a week and soap operas are just on during the day.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE OLD PEOPLE?

Kill them, recycle them and invest their money into finding a cure to the religious problem

Yes and you are free to hit you nob with a hammer to just don't make a flash movie out of it.

At 5/20/04 04:54 PM, Coop83 wrote: cure to the religious problem

What is the religious problem?!? Religion is not, was not, and will not be the source of all the world's wars!

In order to stop all the wars, you would have to eliminate the idea of race and racial supremacy, the idea of private land ownership, and any hint of personal differences. In order to solve wars, you would have to make everyone identical. Everyone would have to be the same race, the same creed, and have the same ideology and thoughts.

I think that real problem facing this world--the real problem that starts wars, that people fight--is IGNORANCE. Ignorance like yours. IGNORANCE that thinks that any religious person is an idiot, that thinks any religious person is a ritual murderer in the name of their God, that thinks any religous person is a hindrance to mankind in general.

It's IGNORANCE like yours that is the reason why hate groups exists, why the KKK exists, why terror groups exist, and so on.

What about cannibal they are almost a religion?

A coverted cannibal is one who, on Fridays, eats only fishermen.
- Emily Lotney.

There is no problem with regligion just some odd balls who follow it and are ready to fight for it.

Now time for my final thought.
lets just ban Jorman, Jehova's Witnesses, Mad preachers and bible bashers. There for old people can keep regligion instead of getting at people who still have a life worth living

It's literally impossible to ban religion.........although.........restricting it.......thats a different story.

The problem is the line between religion, philosophy, and science is EXTREMELY blurry. To truly ban one, you eventually must ban all the others because they are so entertwined.

remember in china when they got rid of religion? do we really want to go through that type of thing again? people set themselves on fire in protest. obviously there is no way we can ban religion. even though i don't believe in any religion, i feel that religion is a beautiful thing that deserves to be preserved throughout time. as long as we punish the terrible things that people do in the name of religion, we'll be fine.

It's a tempting thought because yes you're right most of the major conflict (military and intellectual) in the world is religious. But in the long run it would only make things worse. Consider the fact that some sort of religion has been formed by every group of human beings all over the world, whether it's a major organized one or old superstitions held by obscure tribes in the Amazon. It seems to be part of human nature to create some form of religion and trying to forcibly repress an innate quality is never a bright idea.

People that say religion causes intolerance, and then conclude that religion must be banned, amuse me.

At 5/21/04 12:42 AM, Jlop985 wrote: People that say religion causes intolerance, and then conclude that religion must be banned, amuse me.

So tell me then, if this preaching by Bin Laden and his cronies, trying to incite the Islamic world into a Jihad against the 'Western Infidels' is not religion causing intolerance, or using religion as an excuse for terrorism, then what is it?

I see no reason for there to be religion in the modern world - it's not like the powers that be have to use it as a way to control the populace like in the old days. If people want to believe in a God or some form of higher power, that's fine. It's perfectly possible to do that without a need for religion. Banning it would be impractical and cause more problems than it would solve though...

At 5/21/04 02:58 PM, Coop83 wrote:

So tell me then, if this preaching by Bin Laden and his cronies, trying to incite the Islamic world into a Jihad against the 'Western Infidels' is not religion causing intolerance, or using religion as an excuse for terrorism, then what is it?

It's intolerance towards others' religions., just like YOUR intolerance towards others' religions.

At 5/21/04 02:58 PM, Coop83 wrote:

At 5/21/04 12:42 AM, Jlop985 wrote: People that say religion causes intolerance, and then conclude that religion must be banned, amuse me.

So tell me then, if this preaching by Bin Laden and his cronies, trying to incite the Islamic world into a Jihad against the 'Western Infidels' is not religion causing intolerance, or using religion as an excuse for terrorism, then what is it?

Religious fanaticism does cause intolerance, but you are no less intolerant for advocating the banning of religions.

At 5/21/04 03:07 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:
It's intolerance towards others' religions., just like YOUR intolerance towards others' religions.

My grandparents wrote me out of thier will, because I renounced god, on the grounds that religion had no proof.

And people call me resentful

Why would you want to ban religion? The Soviet Communists had no religious foundation and they were one of the most ruthless, murderous examples of government gone wrong in history (that was NOT an attack on communism, so calm down pro-communist supporters).

The problem with today is that people are at the point where they think science and reason are governing hands that can solve everything, so they see no need for faith, or "faith-based government" as some would call it.

People today gripe about banning religion without even realizing that they've accepted science and reason as a whole new religion in itself.

*Shakes head and watches as the flames are fanned*

you shouldn't ban religion. That wouldn't be fair for the people that NEED it for guidance in life. America was founded by people that wanted religious freedom, and we would now just take it away? Wouldn't happen.

Religion should not be banned because in America we would have a bunch of angry Christians on our hands
But this wouldn't happen in America for in this George-Bushian nation everyone is Christian so we ban all other religions and America'll be happy

Bush is an idiot

It should not be banned anywhere, large scale rioting would break out

At 5/22/04 07:13 PM, T_Money_revenge wrote: no religion should not be banned. i think that people who hate religion should be banned in a permament way!

ok... don't most religions teach tolerance...
I don't care if a person is religious or not, as long as they are a good person

At 5/23/04 01:30 AM, ADarkerBreed wrote: Religion should not be banned because in America we would have a bunch of angry Christians on our hands

Don't we already?

At 5/23/04 02:15 AM, T_Money_revenge wrote: your right a good religion teaches you to be a good person.

Therefore Christianity is wrong, because most people who call themselves Christians have been arrested for something, own a weapon of somekind or pay no heed to the bible.

New theory: MODERNISATION. Write an 'even newer testament' where people can associate themselves with the charachters. Unlike me, most people lack the facilities to empathise

Why can't we do what they did in Starcraft?

Sometime in the 22nd century, atheism had surpassed religious thought as a majority belief(s), though many religious discussions, arguments, wars, etc. still took place. So, Earth got sick of all the religious problems around the world and signed a treaty with the religious leaders of the world for them to move to the South American continent while the rest of the world would be in the hands of the atheists. As soon as it was signed, all the religions of the world moved there.

Then the atheists launced hundreds of ICBMs simultaneously covering every square inch of South America from millions of degrees of heat to alpha radiation bouncing off anyone that still lived.

And everyone lived happily ever after (as long as the wind stays still).

What, and kill off the planet? Why don't we just all submit to communism? That would work so long as every country did it

At 5/21/04 03:07 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

It's intolerance towards others' religions., just like YOUR intolerance towards others' religions.

Well see...i have no religion. Therefore...i have no preset boundries on intolerance. I can be just as intolerant as i want. Most religions, however, do not promote intolerance. see...i'm not being hypocritical by being intolerant....religous zealots are.

At 5/22/04 07:08 PM, darkmage8 wrote:

The problem with today is that people are at the point where they think science and reason are governing hands that can solve everything, so they see no need for faith, or "faith-based government" as some would call it.

Faith, by definition, is belief without proof. I do not advocate the belief in anything that is unproved...that's why we have words like 'theory'.

People today gripe about banning religion without even realizing that they've accepted science and reason as a whole new religion in itself.

Once again...faith is a requirment for religion. Science doesn't ask me to believe things with no proof whatsoever...does it?

At 5/22/04 07:23 PM, Gooie wrote: you shouldn't ban religion. That wouldn't be fair for the people that NEED it for guidance in life. America was founded by people that wanted religious freedom, and we would now just take it away? Wouldn't happen.

Though i don't support the banning of religion (just as i do not support the banning of ANY opinion...and that's all religion is)...i would also like to point out that this country was also founded on greed, racism, sexism, and all around ignorance. Do you advocate those things as well? Do people NEED racism for guidance in life?

At 5/24/04 06:07 AM, Damien3003 wrote: Do people NEED racism for guidance in life?

Well, the KKK seem to

At 5/24/04 06:31 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 5/24/04 06:07 AM, Damien3003 wrote: Do people NEED racism for guidance in life?

Well, the KKK seem to

Are yes the Klan, they justified their racism by using religion. Haven't you seen the burning crosses.