Think I'll respond to the page layout comments, since I've clearly missed the mark with my initial throw.
At 9/13/12 07:06 PM, Escalus wrote:
Oh my, the negative space D: it's murdering me!
I know, I know! I thought I was giving the pics room to breathe, but it just looks like wasted space.
Page Outline: (picture coming soon explaning wtf I'm talking about below) v
Vonschlippe's, starcraft-terran-medic, should have a page of it's own,
I hope it's clear that I posted 4 pages in that preview, but yeah I agree stuff like that needs to be bigger.
[have Vonschlippe's pic] re-sized to fit one page vertically
Oh God, no. Two reasons why I would aim to avoid that: 1) the artist wants the pic to be viewed in its correct orientation, and 2) rotating things to fit on a page looks clumsy.
That's why I've added the StarCraft pic twice, so I could experiment with how so a pic would appear in the book. They both have their downsides: one has the spine right through the focus of the pic, while the other is too small. I'm temperted to dedicate a whole page to half the pic, with a smaller full view on the following page.
At 9/13/12 08:15 PM, wreckr wrote:
What if along here you had some sort of write up from the artist?
This might be personal opinion, but I'd rather not. It certainly fills up the page a lot better, but I doubt anybody has anything interesting to say. Only art reference books can get away with it, since the author is quite knowledgeable (or full of themselves), and refer to the accompanying pics in the text.
That empty space can be better invested in other pics - it'll be a pain in the arse to make them fit, however!
At 9/13/12 09:14 PM, Aigis wrote:
Generally I think the whole black colour scheme is detrimental to readability. White on black text is uncomfortable to read and a black background just takes away from the art.
I'd prefer black to white or any other colour. White is too clean, and I don't have that readability problem for pics set upon a black void. Although the only way to find this out is to put white to the test.
Try not to feel a slave to Newgrounds's colour scheme when designing a book.
If I was being a slave it'd be a textured grey BG (which'd be crap). My initial impression is that black would work better than white with the images in the book.
At 9/13/12 10:16 PM, Captain-Carrion wrote:
I think a format that splits the art up into categories, where there will be pages dedicated to whole pieces or a few larger pictures with the pages in between consisting of a collage of a whole bunch of "lesser known" artwork and such would work nicely.
I think the same. At the moment I'm feeling that the first half/two thirds is classic images from the art portal in very broad categories (character concepts, animals, design ...), and the remainder is content produced specifically for the book during a 3 month contest.
Don't worry about lapses in quality to be the nice guy, since I favour a 100% perfect product over an untarnished conscience.
How much would it cost though? I imagine the ink costing a lot of money and we are going to want to cram as much art in there as possible, right?
The costs for printing the pages are fine, and I reckon it can produce a very affordable softback book.
My only concern is the amount of profit from the book. Not only should the profit make the price of the book reasonable, but there is also the problem of how much goes to Newgrounds specifically, and whether artists feel like they are entitled to a cut - which could come out of the initial costs or as a percentage for each book sold. I think that is one of the main issues for the book, to make sure all the contributors are on board and feel like they're getting a fair deal.
I'll have another go with some draft layout ideas tonight.