At 9/13/12 03:17 AM, LemonCrush wrote:
Actually they wouldn't deny people...because they like money. And customers. Thing is, when healthcare is free or cheap because of government, people abuse it...causing the industry to raise prices.
The industry is expensive for a multitude of reasons, none of those being government involvement in insurance. It's expensive because of the archaic "unauthorized practice" rules, because of massive litigation leading to defensive medicine, because of insurance in general, and a general inability for competition to truly occur.
Nothing wrong with needing help from others. But why on earth would you want help from the government?
Because my treatment is still more expensive after my wife's insurance than most people pay in health costs (including insurance premiums) a year.
You're sure about that? How? How do you know what's in your food? How do you know that the chemicals in your ketchup or sausage are safe?
I know kethcup is ketchup because there is an oddly specific law dictating the content, color, and viscosity of what can legally be called kethcup. Thousands of these statutes dictate what can be labelled what and what can be sold. Is it foolproof? No, nothing is. But it works enough that I can trust the food my grocery store puts out is what it claims to be and is legally sanitary.
So literally eating shit, is what we have to settle for? Thanks government!
The government didn't dictate what saleable meat is, the consumer did. Do you want beef that's all tattered and tasteless? No? Then eat the shit. Hell, there's likely more actual shit on your toothbrush than any meat you eat, it's just that your shit doesn't grow salmonela or the most harmful strains of e-coli. Life is dirty, deal with it. At least we can rest assured now that Joe the clumsy fuck sausage worker isn't making up a portion of our sausage. That's what you can thank the government for.
If it can't be guaranteed safe, the FDA has no business saying it is. Just because it's "too hard" to determine the safety doesn't mean just say screw it, and call it safe.
I don't think you know what "safe" actually means. My car is rated safe. Now that doesn't mean I can't get hurt by it. If I crash on the highway going 65 mph, I could easily die. What safe means is that the risk is low enough to not be a large problem. Everyone knows the risks of taking medicine. Medicines can cause side effects. It can conflict with other medicines. It can impair the taker. These can happen immediately or pop up later. Just like driving, everyone who does it knowlingly accepts the risks because they know they're low. If you're looking for a medicine that is 100% side effect free, well you're not going to find it. I know the FDA has had some serious lapses before, I won't deny that, but for the most part they have done a pretty good job keeping medicine safe and creating a proper system to test and vet drugs before they go on the market.
You're splitting hairs. Do you think if food was truly safe, people would be suing over it?
As long as there's money to be had, people will do it.
So as long as they admit it could kill you, it's okay? Since when does that logic make sense? Would I get away with murder as long as I warned the poeple ahead of time?
No, because murder and accepting a risk are two different things. The drug companies are required by law and ethically to disclose ALL possible side effects that showed up during the test in order to let the consumer know of the risk. That way the consumer can make an informed decision as to whether they believe the benefits of any drug outweigh the risks.
And why do you think that is? Don't you think people should be able to choose what they eat and feed to their families. Who the fuck is the government to decide what's good for me?
The government isn't deciding this. The producers of GMO food and the sellers of all food decide it. The government, at most, has merely approved or disapproved of certains actions or claims regarding food. Anyone who truly cares knows there are places where they can go and get fleeced for low quality and unhealthy, but GMO free food.
That's so weird. I don't see the word "electricity" anywhere in the constitution...
When was the Constitution written? When was electricity invented? How many centuries separate those two dates?
Here's one for you: "General Welfare". Also, the Federal Government can do almost anything it wants with a carrot by using the spending clause. They could give Philadelphia money to help improve their power grid on the condition that Philly builds a new power plant of a certain type.
In the end it seems like you're just grasping at straws to find ways to blame to government for stuff.