At 8/23/12 05:26 PM, Mihoshi wrote:
At 8/23/12 03:13 PM, draco889 wrote:
You may not like it, but remember alcohol affects people differently. For some they can drink 6 or 7 drinks and not be affected while other will be messed up with just 1 it all depends on alcohol tolerance. However, because they know that alcohol affects people differently they went with the lowest number cause if they went any higher it would be abused big time by rapists.
At 8/23/12 02:04 PM, LittleWashu wrote:
But on the subject of rape it is also rape to sleep with someone if they had even one drink since they are under the influence of alcohol.I don't think I agree with this, simply because it implies that one isn't responsible for the decisions one makes when inebriated. Unless the alcohol was forced down you throat, you should have to live with the choices you make while drunk, and consenting to sex is one of those choices. Otherwise the argument could be made that people who commit crimes while under the influence shouldn't answer for their actions as long as they say someone told them to do the crime beforehand.
Besides what if a person says no in the beginning only to have some alcohol in their system to mess up their judgement and say yes. Then when they wake up back in right might they find out they did something they don't remember or would have never agreed to if fully sober or in right mind? The victims of rape crimes would walk away scoot free, and the victims would never get justice. So even if you don't like it this way, it is for the best. We have enough rapists as it is, we don't want to get the assholes loop holes to get way from their judgement when they commit these crimes.
I agree with what Washu said about waiting. I love seeing when guys have really drunk girls try to get in their pants but the guy is all sweet and nice and awesome and respectfully declines even though he wants it because he respects her too much to have her make that decision when she's fucked up.
If she's willing to have sex with you she'd do it sober later. If it's something she'd never do unless you got some drinks in her and coerced her, it's not really right to do.
I agree mostly with what Tarah was saying. When you're in a relationship with someone it can be nice to wake each other up to fondling/blowjobs/the like. Heavenduff mentioned if that person woke up and didn't like it definitely you need to stop. But in some cases it's safe to assume the person will wake up very happy. Depending on who's doing it though it could be incredibly creepy/unwanted.
I also think it's really sad how little care and sympathy victims of either gender get. I think besides murder it's the worst thing that can happen to a person. You think a complete loss of control is comfortable for anyone? I almost think it'd be worse for men. Saying no to something and resisting something only to have your desires ignored as someone takes advantage to you is about the most helpless feeling in the world.