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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:12 PM Reply

I agree with this decision.

Curse words can not be tolerated.

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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:14 PM Reply

While that is complete and total bullshit, she shouldn't have said hell in her valedictorian speech, I mean, that should be apparent. I wouldn't have taken a chance like that on a speech that all of the teachers and staff take so seriously.

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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:15 PM Reply

David Nootbaar said his daughter was inspired by the movie âEUoeThe Twilight Saga: Eclipse" when she wrote the speech.

I think they did nothing wrong


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:17 PM Reply

The principle needs to grow a pair.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:17 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:14 PM, Skaren wrote: While that is complete and total bullshit, she shouldn't have said hell in her valedictorian speech, I mean, that should be apparent. I wouldn't have taken a chance like that on a speech that all of the teachers and staff take so seriously.

My teachers in high school have said "hell" and "damn" before, and they've allowed small, meaningless curses by. And according to the article, she'd written that she was to say "heck" and just slipped.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:18 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:15 PM, Brain-Damage wrote:
David Nootbaar said his daughter was inspired by the movie âEUoeThe Twilight Saga: Eclipse" when she wrote the speech.
I think they did nothing wrong

Yes, judge her because of a movie that she likes


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:21 PM Reply

Hell is not a "curse word". Even tv censors and the bible don't think it is


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:23 PM Reply

Lol, and schools go on and on about how important it is to finish your education, to move forward in life.

School isn't a test of whether or not you are perfect and never slip up.

I think these nigg@s forgot the true meaning of education.

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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:25 PM Reply

They're just using it as a cover, the principle secretly despises the Twilight saga.

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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:26 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:11 PM, Ryanson wrote: Girl has a 4.0 average, valedictorian of her class, about to start college... but was denied her diploma apparently because she used "hell" in her graduation speech.

I don't see how this makes sense, but whatever.

I never saw the prohibition of using profanity in school as a good thing. It accomplishes nothing significant. Just about everyone curses. Few, if any, are harmed by it, and yet profanity is consistently prohibited in schools all over the country and around the world. It's not reasonable. Not that I care very much, though.

The word "hell", when used in a profane manner, is so laughably mild that few people really get in trouble for using it in conversation, even with people of authority. When I was in high school, I did try not use profanity around teachers, administrators, etc. but I occasionally did say "damn," and "hell" without suffering any of the consequences associated with using such words around people of authority. It was never a big deal as long as you didn't say the big curse words. I guess I'm rambling now.

Withholding a diploma from a valedictorian for using "hell" in a speech for humorous effect is ludicrously unreasonable. Demanding an apology is even more ludicrously unreasonable.

That kind of strict adherence to a rule that isn't very defensible reflects poorly on the administrators of her school.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:29 PM Reply

Conan said much worse in the speech to the grads of Dartmouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELC_e2QBQMk


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:32 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:15 PM, Brain-Damage wrote:
David Nootbaar said his daughter was inspired by the movie âEUoeThe Twilight Saga: Eclipse" when she wrote the speech.
I think they did nothing wrong

I also see nothing wrong with their decision after this.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:33 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:26 PM, Light wrote:
Withholding a diploma from a valedictorian for using "hell" in a speech for humorous effect is ludicrously unreasonable. Demanding an apology is even more ludicrously unreasonable.

That kind of strict adherence to a rule that isn't very defensible reflects poorly on the administrators of her school.

Wow did they really demand an apology? What a bunch of pussy little fucktards. As if they or anyone were truly hurt by the use of this word. My God. Jesus himself would tell them to calm the fuck down and get over themselves.
And if they still denied her her deploma after asking for an apology she should tell them to fuck off. Why?


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:39 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:17 PM, II2none wrote: The principle needs to grow a pair.
principle needs to grow a pair.
principle

Someone needs to go back to school.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:42 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:39 PM, Boomstick wrote:
At 8/20/12 10:17 PM, II2none wrote: The principle needs to grow a pair.
principle needs to grow a pair.
principle
Someone needs to go back to school.

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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:43 PM Reply

There's no good reason this should be allowed to happen anywhere. I hope she sues the hell out of her school and maybe even the entire district if the higher-ups continue to remain steadfast in their decision to withhold her diploma. Anyone good enough to earn the coveted title of high school valedictorian should be allowed to say pretty much whatever they want.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:43 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:39 PM, Boomstick wrote:
At 8/20/12 10:17 PM, II2none wrote: The principle needs to grow a pair.
principle needs to grow a pair.
principle
Someone needs to go back to school.

Yes, making a spelling mistake constitutes requiring complete reeducation


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:44 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:42 PM, TurkeyBased wrote:
At 8/20/12 10:39 PM, Boomstick wrote:
At 8/20/12 10:17 PM, II2none wrote: The principle needs to grow a pair.
principle needs to grow a pair.
principle
Someone needs to go back to school.
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ooooooooooooooooooh No he didn't!


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 10:53 PM Reply

If she'd said "who the fuck knows?" instead of "who the hell knows?" I could maybe see a point. After all, "fuck" is generally acknowledged to be a curse word, whereas "hell" is not as widely accepted to be such. These Oklahoma administrators are imposing their religious value structure to an extent far beyond what is allowed by the US government. Given that "hell" is really only a curse word for christians -- and a mild one at that -- these administrators are quite incorrect to withhold the girl's diploma.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:04 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 10:11 PM, Ryanson wrote: Girl has a 4.0 average, valedictorian of her class, about to start college... but was denied her diploma apparently because she used "hell" in her graduation speech.

Oklahoma; that makes sense now.

I'm sure the school board will bend to giver her diploma. She can have her transcripts and is already in college, but still it bad to have the school to be so moral about a word that isn't even one of the seven dirty words.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:11 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 11:07 PM, Ilssm wrote: If you don't include it, it would be six.

Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits... nope, still seven.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:12 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 11:07 PM, Ilssm wrote:
but still it bad to have the school to be so moral about a word that isn't even one of the seven dirty words.
If you don't include it, it would be six.

#Thatdouchewhocorrectseveryone

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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:18 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 11:11 PM, Ryanson wrote:
At 8/20/12 11:07 PM, Ilssm wrote: If you don't include it, it would be six.
Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits... nope, still seven.

Cunt, cocksucker, and tits aren't major, except maybe cocksucker, but it's still not all that bad, you're just implying that a given person enjoys giving fellatio

And motherfucker is just fuck with another word added to it


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:19 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 11:18 PM, Xenomit wrote: Cunt, cocksucker, and tits aren't major, except maybe cocksucker, but it's still not all that bad, you're just implying that a given person enjoys giving fellatio

And motherfucker is just fuck with another word added to it

Those are the official seven, take it or leave it.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:19 PM Reply

This is really stupid.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:22 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 11:19 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: This is really stupid.

I boy was expelled in 1998 for wearing a Yankee shirt at Atlanta Braves day. Being that it was 1998 and the Braves didn't even make it past the Padres, the kid got the last laugh.


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:23 PM Reply

At 8/20/12 11:22 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 8/20/12 11:19 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: This is really stupid.
I boy was expelled in 1998 for wearing a Yankee shirt at Atlanta Braves day. Being that it was 1998 and the Braves didn't even make it past the Padres, the kid got the last laugh.

That's BEYOND stupid.


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At 8/20/12 11:22 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: I boy was expelled in 1998 for wearing a Yankee shirt at Atlanta Braves day. Being that it was 1998 and the Braves didn't even make it past the Padres, the kid got the last laugh.
I boy was expelled

I...

This....

But....

Huh?


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Response to Student says hell, denied diploma Aug. 20th, 2012 @ 11:33 PM Reply

"Hell"? She should have said inferno, abyss or sheol. Hell is a lowly word.


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