At 8/14/12 02:54 PM, 24901miles wrote:
Popular belief isn't the same as fact, and it's just fiction if you oversimplify it to promote your own agenda. Barack Obama was on the radar starting in the year after I signed up for Newgrounds, 2004.
he was relatively unknown outside of illinois, as in, nothing special.
He didn't suddenly barrel out on stage and give a few speeches about being half black, earning him the nomination during his first 2 weeks as President, and the award after 10 months. He has been working in a pretense of which earned him an award for being a "champion of peace" by the standards of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
fair enough. point out his work on international peace before he became president. good luck.
See that first part ^. People around the world saw the election of a Black American President as an enormous thing. I guess you were part right in your first post, "for being a black american president" could be enough to win the prize.
it worked. the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke and has been for decades. It's really more of a feel good award than it is anything substantial.
I have been paying attention to the news since I was in Middle School. I researched all of this in 2008, and I've read about the Nobel Prizes since 2004 for my interest in Science. Yes, I know a fair bit about how the Prize is awarded. Maybe you forget what was on the news for several months after Obama took office. "Racism is Over", "Parties in the Streets", etc.
your point? there's a nobel prize in many fields of science, then you got peace. as of the time he was awarded the prize he had done very very little to earn a prize. he promised to shut down gitmo and several other things peace related and was handed the prize. did he do it for the prize? of course not. It just kinda happened.
Even Wikipedia mentions...
*shrug* he promised to shut it down and failed. He also tried moving them into the mainland and giving them civilian trials. luckily that fell through. last thing we need is to have them on America soil in a prison that is guarded by civilian guards.
That's interesting, but the article is wholly insignificant. It says that the reason Obama may not have deserved the Prize is that he hasn't mentioned an interest in abolishing the Armed Forces.
*facepalm* that wasn't the point at all. the point was the prize is a joke and that it has strayed away from what it was meant to be.
Disagree. Again. If a country were intentionally pumping greenhouse gases into another nation to kill its inhabitants, and a group of activists rallied against the aggressor, they would be working for peace. Climate Change is a result of Industrialized Nations pumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.
so exactly who was Al Gore protesting against and who was killing their neighbors inhabitants with greenhouse gases?
When you decide to argue that Climate Change isn't real, because it's being publicized by a Democrat, you should probably choke on that. The majority of scientists agree that the earth is warming, and that we are the cause.
majority of scientists have agreed on many things that have been determined to be false later on. Also, I'm not saying Climate Change isn't real because it's being publicized by a Democrat. I'm not even saying Climate Change is isn't real period. I'm saying the shit spewed out by Al Gore and those like him are doing it for the lucrative monetary benefits. Does Earth's climate change? it always has. are humans causing it? *shrug* there's evidence both ways. Also, this isn't even the topic at hand.
I was originally planning to register as an Independent when I turned 18, and at the last minute I registered Democratic Primary Vote. Two years ago, I switched to Republican for this Primary.
so you're an indecisive one. Also, who you register as has little to no bearing on your views and beliefs. Hillary Clinton could swap to the republican party (would be an interesting move) if she so chose.
Clearly that's not a "covered up stance", I do my own research, and I don't own a television. Obviously I support Barack Obama, I don't support George W. Bush, and I research both parties independent of their candidates for office.
if you say so.