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Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:37 PM

What do you think about women (or men) that whore themselves out, either through prostitution or teasing, to get what they want?

Women know that men are pigs and will do anything to tap dat ass, so they use their bodies to their advantage. This is subjective because it depends on your morals/ethics/whatever. Society gives us morals. If you think about it, there really aren't any rules in life. Nowhere in nature does it say, "It's immoral to suck a guy's penis so he'll do some ridiculous favour in return". Prostitutes/porn stars know how it goes, as well, since they completely disregard the idea that their bodies are "sacred" or whatever, so they fuck with strangers and get their hard-earned money.

Of course, this can go either way depending on the person. It could be because she's playing them all as a seductive mistress, or she's just a dumb, lazy slut that doesn't want to be productive in any way and party it up. Also, the way you think about it, the morals would only apply if you live in civilised society. You can do this shit all you want in the wild.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:43 PM

There is a difference between being intelligent and being manipulative.
And it's not the only way to get people to help you out.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:45 PM

If anything, by having to take advantage of sexual needs and desires, that shows a lack of intelligence and creativity.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:47 PM

At 8/2/12 10:43 PM, Sensationalism wrote: There is a difference between being intelligent and being manipulative.

Well, yea, I mean in the same sense. Being manipulative does requires a certain level of intelligence.

And it's not the only way to get people to help you out.

I'm not talking about getting help. That was an example and the purpose of manipulation. I'm asking for peoples' opinions on this.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:48 PM

there are many consequences for these sorts of actions

your reputation could go in the shitter for being a whore, so you'll be alone and will slowly begin to seek sex not as a tool for manipulation but as a need to feel validated

also if you fuck a lot of people, you'll become dependent on others, and when you get too ugly or too, uh, std-ridden, no one will wanna be with you and you'll have nothing, leading you to an empty life of isolation and despair


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:49 PM

They're whores because they have no other skills, women suck.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:51 PM

At 8/2/12 10:47 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 8/2/12 10:43 PM, Sensationalism wrote: There is a difference between being intelligent and being manipulative.
Well, yea, I mean in the same sense. Being manipulative does requires a certain level of intelligence.

And it's not the only way to get people to help you out.
I'm not talking about getting help. That was an example and the purpose of manipulation. I'm asking for peoples' opinions on this.

Nah I agree with PMMurphy. Shows lack of intelligence and creativity. What's intelligent about pressing your boobs together and saying you're thirsty so some virgin will bring you a drink?

When I manipulate people I use psychology and that requires you to know more than DURRR SEX PARTS EQUALS GOOD.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:53 PM

manipulation in general shows lack of intelligence and it is something you should never learn. I have worked with a sociopath (i think) before. It is not fun.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:56 PM

At 8/2/12 10:48 PM, e-lord wrote: and will slowly begin to seek sex not as a tool for manipulation but as a need to feel validated

I'm not really sure how that outcome would occur. That's only if she's doing it for the sex or if she's already lonely.

also if you fuck a lot of people, you'll become dependent on others, and when you get too ugly or too, uh, std-ridden, no one will wanna be with you and you'll have nothing, leading you to an empty life of isolation and despair

Well, that's unless you keep yourself in shape. If it's a classy lady that does a little winking now and then to get her way, all that wouldn't happen. Otherwise, this is the way of cheap hookers.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:56 PM

I don't think there is a legitimate correspondence between whoring and intelligence. However, most sluts/whores I've heard of or met seemed to have the mental capacity of a slutty 8th-grader.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:59 PM

At 8/2/12 10:51 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Nah I agree with PMMurphy. Shows lack of intelligence and creativity. What's intelligent about pressing your boobs together and saying you're thirsty so some virgin will bring you a drink?

When I manipulate people I use psychology and that requires you to know more than DURRR SEX PARTS EQUALS GOOD.

That's your opinion. Like I said in the OP, your body isn't anything special. It's your actions that matter. Our bodies are disposable for the greater goal. Teasing shows that the other person is a fool that'll fall for anything and will blindly follow his/her master.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 10:59 PM

At 8/2/12 10:56 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 8/2/12 10:48 PM, e-lord wrote: and will slowly begin to seek sex not as a tool for manipulation but as a need to feel validated
I'm not really sure how that outcome would occur. That's only if she's doing it for the sex or if she's already lonely.

but a woman like this would pretty much rely on other people to pay for things and do things for her

she may not feel useless, but i think that feeling will sink in once she loses her hotness

also if you fuck a lot of people, you'll become dependent on others, and when you get too ugly or too, uh, std-ridden, no one will wanna be with you and you'll have nothing, leading you to an empty life of isolation and despair
Well, that's unless you keep yourself in shape. If it's a classy lady that does a little winking now and then to get her way, all that wouldn't happen. Otherwise, this is the way of cheap hookers.

uhh once you reach a certain age, you stop being attractive and no one will do anything for you, no matter what


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:02 PM

It's just simple manipulation on men stupid enough to fall for it, both parties are equally stupid.
They are not intelligent, just influential. Only someone actually thinking can negate them.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:13 PM

At 8/2/12 11:02 PM, Boomstick wrote: It's just simple manipulation on men stupid enough to fall for it, both parties are equally stupid.
They are not intelligent, just influential. Only someone actually thinking can negate them.

Indeed, but knowing that fools can be fooled and being influential shows that the person is at least smarter than average.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:23 PM

At 8/2/12 11:13 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 8/2/12 11:02 PM, Boomstick wrote: It's just simple manipulation on men stupid enough to fall for it, both parties are equally stupid.
They are not intelligent, just influential. Only someone actually thinking can negate them.
Indeed, but knowing that fools can be fooled and being influential shows that the person is at least smarter than average.

I wouldn't call it fooling to be pimped and have someone buy you. Prostitution started by force, it literally doesn't take much much intelligence at all to go "hey pay me and you can fuck me or agree to be fucked and be paid.

It's like saying im smart for selling you a popsicle.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:42 PM

At 8/2/12 10:37 PM, jjjkuk wrote: What do you think about women (or men) that whore themselves out, either through prostitution or teasing, to get what they want?

Also, the way you think about it, the morals would only apply if you live in civilised society. You can do this shit all you want in the wild.
in the wild

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:43 PM

At 8/2/12 11:23 PM, TurkeyBased wrote: I wouldn't call it fooling to be pimped and have someone buy you. Prostitution started by force, it literally doesn't take much much intelligence at all to go "hey pay me and you can fuck me or agree to be fucked and be paid.

It's like saying im smart for selling you a popsicle.

That was then. Now, it's completely optional. But prostitution is just one part of this discussion. I'm trying to go deeper than just the job itself, though. Men want to have sex, especially if it's for sale, so the whore market will obviously be busy, because the women/pimp know that there are desperate people out there. The customers are the fools.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:49 PM

I don't believe women or men really put much thought into it. A whore doesn't just have a sudden epiphany to "take advantage of a mans desires". She normally gets forced into it or does it to support something. Yet, in the end; another person (pimp) finds out he/she is stealing business and ends up "recruiting" him/her.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:53 PM

Since they have chosen to objectify themselves they cannot be seen in another way. It is not intelligence, it is stupidity.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:54 PM

Manipulation is a skill. Its not a sign of intelligence.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:57 PM

At 8/2/12 11:43 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
Men want to have sex, especially if it's for sale, so the whore market will obviously be busy, because the women/pimp know that there are desperate people out there.

That's exactly the thing though. They didn't just figure that out. It's like if Microsoft stocks were still somehow low, but you could gain as much from them as when you bought them cheap and it grew as a company. Of course you would buy them now, it's just going with the situation. Like I said, the whores didn't come up with prostitution, they were first taken and made to do it and the takers were paid and kept up the whore. And only in America has that really changed, which is where I'll assume this "intelligence" is going on because in other countries they're still being bashed across the head and being made to do it or are just that poor. So when we couldn't just bash them and make them do it they picked it up themselves, but they still have the pimps who will bash them.

The customers are the fools.

Are they really? Are they anymore fools than going through the hassle of dates and bitching if all they want is a blowjob?
Like you said about the body disposable and what not. Like any other product, you pay for it. People could make their own ice cream, but it's a hassle. What's the point in shucking and jiving around when all you want is pussy?

Prostitution is one of the world's oldest professions, not because it's smart, but because it's practical.


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 11:59 PM

Any person who gets easily swayed by another throwing their bodies at them really says something about their own intelligence, as opposed to the whore's.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:00 AM

Whores and Pimping are the oldest means of human manipulation for monetary gain; then I believe came gambling in all it's forms.

I think whoring is the lowest position any person could put themselves in, but maybe they see no other way to survive,or just want a quick buck; but the mental/emotional strain is not worth it IMO


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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:01 AM

At 8/2/12 10:43 PM, Sensationalism wrote: There is a difference between being intelligent and being manipulative.
And it's not the only way to get people to help you out.

Oh please! How else do you get people to help you out? No offense, but I've been there. Asking for a hand out when I had nothing. A lot of other people who NEED help, not just WANT it, have been there too.

People will look you dead in the face no matter WHAT your "story" is and will safely assume that you are a bum, and nothing more.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:04 AM

At 8/2/12 10:45 PM, PMMurphy wrote: If anything, by having to take advantage of sexual needs and desires, that shows a lack of intelligence and creativity.

Yeah, because people are going to give you money for "knowing things" on the street, right? Let me tell you something, it doesn't matter if you are Albert Einstein. If you're broke, and need cash quick, nobody is going to give you money if you are intelligent on the street. MAYBE if you are creative. But even then, try playing guitar for cash in the suburbs. See how far that gets you.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:06 AM

At 8/2/12 10:37 PM, jjjkuk wrote: No where in Nature does it say "It's immoral to suck a guy's penis so he'll do some ridiculous favour in return".

What? Did Nature write us a book for us to read or something?

Nature is nature, nature has no form, nature doesn't 'tell us' what to do.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:07 AM

At 8/3/12 12:04 AM, Stereocrisis wrote: Yeah, because people are going to give you money for "knowing things" on the street, right? Let me tell you something, it doesn't matter if you are Albert Einstein. If you're broke, and need cash quick, nobody is going to give you money if you are intelligent on the street. MAYBE if you are creative. But even then, try playing guitar for cash in the suburbs. See how far that gets you.

ooooo we got a real OG here. The topic is does manipulation = intelligence not what is the best way to get lee roy to give me back my stolen drugs that were trafficked across brooklyn.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:15 AM

Also, about the overall question:

No, they don't. Generally prostitutes/porn stars are only in it for the drugs/money/whatever their pimp gives them anyway, so they don't really use sex to get what THEY want. They just do their job.

Also, from personal experience, the types to try to get their way by seducing you are usually pretty dumb anyway; their willingness to use sex as a strategy for everything is just shows that that's the only thing they know. If they were really smart they'd know that sooner or later somebody's gonna come along that sees right through that crap and uses it against them. It's a really exploitable habit. I remember this one slutty girl in my math class was trying to seduce the boys at our table into buying her a soda; the moment she got to me I called her out on her crap and gave her a firm "no" and she didn't have anything to say in return but "shut up". Oh yeah, and that girl was taking that freshman math class for the second time in a row. I also recall her bragging once about how she did it unprotected like it was awesome. She's just a slut who doesn't know anything beyond sex, she's not clever in the slightest. Sluts are one-trick ponies.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:18 AM

At 8/3/12 12:07 AM, PMMurphy wrote:
At 8/3/12 12:04 AM, Stereocrisis wrote: Yeah, because people are going to give you money for "knowing things" on the street, right? Let me tell you something, it doesn't matter if you are Albert Einstein. If you're broke, and need cash quick, nobody is going to give you money if you are intelligent on the street. MAYBE if you are creative. But even then, try playing guitar for cash in the suburbs. See how far that gets you.
ooooo we got a real OG here. The topic is does manipulation = intelligence not what is the best way to get lee roy to give me back my stolen drugs that were trafficked across brooklyn.

Okay, than manipulation does take intelligence. Manipulative intelligence is different form book smarts, but a complete moron can't be manipulative if he doesn't have some kind of conniving traits.

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Response to Whores = intelligent? Aug. 3rd, 2012 @ 12:18 AM

At 8/2/12 10:47 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 8/2/12 10:43 PM, Sensationalism wrote: There is a difference between being intelligent and being manipulative.
Well, yea, I mean in the same sense. Being manipulative does requires a certain level of intelligence.

It doesn't require a great deal of intelligence. That same intelligence has been exhibited in monkeys.

So no. Sluts who use sex for what they want aren't really that smart.