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Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Aug. 1st, 2012 @ 11:43 PM Reply

Hello, everybody!
I am composing a list of explanations for plotholes in the Sonic franchise. Go ahead, ask me about anything! I'll be sure to give you an answer.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Aug. 1st, 2012 @ 11:45 PM Reply

Sonic CD. One big huge plot hole.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Aug. 1st, 2012 @ 11:46 PM Reply

At 8/1/12 11:45 PM, majormelthesackboy wrote: Sonic CD. One big huge plot hole.

Explain.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Aug. 1st, 2012 @ 11:48 PM Reply

At 8/1/12 11:46 PM, oobooglunk wrote:
At 8/1/12 11:45 PM, majormelthesackboy wrote: Sonic CD. One big huge plot hole.
Explain.

Are you asking about how it fits in the timeline? It's a prequel to Sonic 2. This is evident because the Sonic sprite is from Sonic 1 and because Sonic has not met Tails yet.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Aug. 1st, 2012 @ 11:54 PM Reply

At 8/1/12 11:48 PM, oobooglunk wrote: Are you asking about how it fits in the timeline? It's a prequel to Sonic 2. This is evident because the Sonic sprite is from Sonic 1 and because Sonic has not met Tails yet.

The Sonic sprite means nothing. Sonic 2 uses the same Sonic sprites as Sonic 1.

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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Aug. 2nd, 2012 @ 12:04 AM Reply

At 8/1/12 11:54 PM, ZeldaFan64DS wrote:
At 8/1/12 11:48 PM, oobooglunk wrote: Are you asking about how it fits in the timeline? It's a prequel to Sonic 2. This is evident because the Sonic sprite is from Sonic 1 and because Sonic has not met Tails yet.
The Sonic sprite means nothing. Sonic 2 uses the same Sonic sprites as Sonic 1.

Check again! The Sonic 2 sprite of Sonic is taller and has a smile on his face.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 12:01 AM Reply

OK, from now on, I'm broadening the spectrum from just the continuity to anything that doesn't add up or make sense in the games. Go!


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 01:10 AM Reply

i really dont play sonic for the plot
i play it to go fast

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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 01:31 AM Reply

At 9/28/12 12:01 AM, oobooglunk wrote: OK, from now on, I'm broadening the spectrum from just the continuity to anything that doesn't add up or make sense in the games. Go!

It's better to just make a new thread.

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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 04:19 AM Reply

The (darker) second cartoon series is a reboot of the lighthearted/childish original series.

So in other words, no continuity.

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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 07:03 AM Reply

There's a Sonic continuity?


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 03:06 PM Reply

Sonic 06

Sonic Rush made it out that Blaze the Cat was from another dimension while in 06, she was from the future.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 03:20 PM Reply

What happened was after sonic and knuckles they started making our friend into a 3 d and problems arose because he didnt do anything but just run and slide in one position.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 28th, 2012 @ 04:23 PM Reply

At 8/1/12 11:43 PM, oobooglunk wrote:

Where The Hell did Chaos come from?

Why the fuck is Shadow based on sonic's design when tthe protoype of the ultimate lifeform was a lizard?

Where the hell was BIG between Adventure and Heroes?


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:27 PM Reply

At 9/28/12 04:19 AM, Painbringer wrote: The (darker) second cartoon series is a reboot of the lighthearted/childish original series.

So in other words, no continuity.

The two cartoons have nothing to do with each other. The SatAM series is a loose adaptation of the Archie comics, while the AoSTH series is a separate story or, as the comics would put it, "another Zone".


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:31 PM Reply

When did Robotnik change his name?

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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:34 PM Reply

"Sonic Rush made it out that Blaze the Cat was from another dimension while in 06, she was from the future."

Formerly unbeknownst to our heroes, that other dimension IS the future.

"Where The Hell did Chaos come from?"

He's a god. You tell me where gods come from.

"Why the fuck is Shadow based on sonic's design when tthe protoype of the ultimate lifeform was a lizard?"

Prof. Gerald Robotnik was performing his tests on different animals.

"Where the hell was BIG between Adventure and Heroes?"

He made a cameo appearance in SA2. If you put in a special code during the scene where Knuckles saves Rouge, he runs into the background.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:35 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 03:31 PM, Shade wrote: When did Robotnik change his name?

I'm guessing near the end of adventure.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:41 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 03:35 PM, TheMajormel wrote:
At 9/29/12 03:31 PM, Shade wrote: When did Robotnik change his name?
I'm guessing near the end of adventure.

Indeed. Also, FYI, he was always called Eggman in Japan, which is why the inscription "EGG-01," as opposed to, say, "ROBO-01," can be found in Wing Fortress Zone in Sonic 2.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:45 PM Reply

Do the events of Sonic Spinball and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine fit into the continuity of the Sonic Universe?


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 29th, 2012 @ 03:50 PM Reply

At 9/29/12 03:45 PM, ZJ wrote: Do the events of Sonic Spinball and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine fit into the continuity of the Sonic Universe?

No. Spinball takes place in the Archie comics universe, making it a game based on a comic based on a game, and Mean Bean Machine is part of the AoSTH continuity.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 12:02 PM Reply

I don't play Sonic

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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Sep. 30th, 2012 @ 07:45 PM Reply

At 9/30/12 11:22 AM, MikeyS9607 wrote:
At 9/29/12 03:27 PM, oobooglunk wrote: The SatAM series is a loose adaptation of the Archie comics,
Wrong! The comics are based of SatAM. It just so happened that the cartoon took longer to produce and the comic came first.

http://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/faq/archie/

Huh. I guess you're right. The more you know!


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 12:49 AM Reply

At 9/30/12 07:45 PM, oobooglunk wrote: http://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/faq/archie/
Huh. I guess you're right. The more you know!

Wait I'm having trouble comprehending this. A Sonic fan who will admit when he's wrong? I am intrigued. Could you perhaps give us this Sonic Continuity in FULL?


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 01:40 AM Reply

At 10/1/12 12:49 AM, The-Great-One wrote:
At 9/30/12 07:45 PM, oobooglunk wrote: http://www.saturdaymorningsonic.com/faq/archie/
Huh. I guess you're right. The more you know!
Wait I'm having trouble comprehending this. A Sonic fan who will admit when he's wrong? I am intrigued. Could you perhaps give us this Sonic Continuity in FULL?

1. Well, I'm flattered. 2. "In full" as in describe the entire chronological progression of the Sonic games? Sorry, but I don't have enough years to spare.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 05:38 AM Reply

At 10/1/12 01:40 AM, oobooglunk wrote: Sorry, but I don't have enough years to spare.

Humor me then.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 09:31 PM Reply

At 10/1/12 05:38 AM, The-Great-One wrote:
At 10/1/12 01:40 AM, oobooglunk wrote: Sorry, but I don't have enough years to spare.
Humor me then.

*WARNING! WALL OF TEXT AHEAD!*

It would be faster to say which games don't fit into the continuity e.g. prequels and spinoffs: Sonic Triple Trouble and Sonic Drift 2 both come before Sonic CD, since Metal Sonic hasn't been killed and revived yet (see Sonic CD and Sonic 4: Episode 2). Thus, Sonic Chaos and Sonic Drift (the respective prequels to the above games) also come before Sonic CD. The latter game, in turn, comes before Sonic 2 due to reasons that I previously mentioned on this thread, although it spans a vast area of the continuity due to time travel. There's a bunch of spinoffs, too, but they are far too numerous to mention. Also, Classic Sonic jumps from Sonic 2 to either Sonic Adventure, Sonic 3D Blast, or Sonic 4: Episode 1 (I'm not sure). The latter game, incidentally, occurs sometime after Sonic & Knuckles. I won't say it comes directly after Sonic & Knuckles, since it already refers to Dr. Robotnik as Dr. Eggman, but it's somewhere around there, I think. Sonic Pocket Adventure, a spinoff game for the SNK Neo Geo Pocket Color (this website started as a Neo Geo fan page, so give it respect), has Classic Sonic gain green eyes and Eggman change from his old design to his new design throughout the course of the game, so it's safe to assume that it takes place right after Sonic Generations (from Classic Sonic's perspective). That's enough for now, but I might continue later.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 09:43 PM Reply

How is it that Shadow died in SA2 but came back in the other games?


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 10:27 PM Reply

I was mostly kidding with my questions except for the last one.

At 9/29/12 03:34 PM, oobooglunk wrote: He's a god. You tell me where gods come from.

Actually he's a mutated chao, and that's not even explained.


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Response to Plotholes in the Sonic Continuity Oct. 1st, 2012 @ 10:52 PM Reply

At 10/1/12 09:43 PM, Chdonga wrote: How is it that Shadow died in SA2 but came back in the other games?

He didn't really die, he just went into a coma and lost his memory. Dr. Eggman found his unconscious body and put him in cryostasis, where he was discovered by Rouge the Bat and E-123 Omega in Sonic Heroes.


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