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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 12:19 PM Reply

At 7/20/12 12:14 PM, jjjkuk wrote:
At 7/20/12 12:08 PM, Travis wrote: Tom Hardy plays an incredible and silly Bane.
Fixed. The way he spoke like an English gentleman, I couldn't take him seriously.

I remember when the first audio of his voice leaked on the internet.

Everybody thought it sounded stupid, and thought it was fake.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 12:32 PM Reply

So many dumb things in this movie.

How does Alfred just suddenly know Bane's backstory? About how he was kicked out of hte LOS and all that?

John Blake just KNOWS that Bruce is Batman because of a look on his face?

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 09:44 PM Reply

I know this is my first post, but hear me out.

So by now most people know what happened in the Dark Knight Rises. And while the movie had some technical problems (example: Talia switched seats in the truck and the dude in the truck vanished), some plot holes, and some inconsistances (Bruce was not Batman for the whole 8 years, then how did the orphan kid remember him? That kid was only 12 or so.), despite all of that the film was actually pretty good.

We had amazing performances from Ann Hathaway and Tom Hardy. I really think they both nailed their characters for sure. As did Bale, Oldman, and Caine.

But after the movie ended I was really, really upset that the ending. I know it had been predicted months ago, and that many people loved the ending, but I just could not get over the fact that John Blake (or shall I say Robin.....Seriously, that was another extremely stupid choice on Nolan's part to make that his name) was going to become Batman and Bruce Wayne went on to live a home life with Selina. (The finding of the Cave was a nice touch but I think it was too ambiguous and open ended.)

So I took some time and I really thought about it and one of the first things that really got me through it was that this was Nolan's universe, and he had always planned on having Bruce give it up. That was made clear from the Second Film.

However I was still bothered that Bruce would simply abandon Gotham. It was his city, and his one true love besides Rachel. I just kept thinking Bruce has to come back.

And then it hit me.

1. Bruce obviously wants Blake to take the mantle. Bruce is done, his body is broken.
2. Bruce therefore wants Blake to succeed at becoming Batman.
3. Blake has limited knowledge, training, money, and equipment.
3a. Blake does not have the money or resources to maintain the cave, the tumbler, the pod, the Bat, the suits, or the equipment.
3b. Without proper training Blake is going to die.
3c. Without proper training Blake cannot fly the Bat or use the Tumbler
4. Bruce has vast knowledge, training, resources, and equipment.
4a. Obviously Bruce has money still because he was able to get from the Prison to Gotham and then at the end escape, and fly to Florence.
5. Blake is unlikely to go to Gordon for help and money, and also unlikely to go to Fox.

Conclusion: Blake needs Bruce to come back and train him and finance everything. Bruce has to come back and show Blake the ropes. Though Bruce will not resume the mantle of Batman, he has to come back.

This fits in Nolan's universe, because with his realism, Blake cannot survive on his own, especially with his extremely limited resources. It would be next ti impossible, even when we factor in the other unrealistic elements of the film.

What do you guys think?

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:01 PM Reply

At 7/19/12 10:30 AM, Darthdenim wrote: Bruce Wayne just fakes his death so he can run off to paris and have coffee with Catwoman? Batman's a fucking quitter!

So he should have to stay being fucked over forever rather than move on and actually learn to enjoy his life and try to get laid with Catwoman? I fail to see the logic there. This actually sounds great for Batman it is good that he can let his past go after moping about it his whole life.

I'm supposed to believe some rookie cop with no training is gonna became the new Batman? Forget about it!

Bruce Wayne started off with full training and ability to kick arse then?


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:08 PM Reply

Why did Alfred suddenly know who Bane was and his backstory?

What the hell happened between the time Bruce got out of the hole, and the time he got back to Gotham?

Show stuff, movie! You could have totally cut out Matthew Modine and showed important plot stuff!

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:12 PM Reply

At 7/20/12 09:44 PM, ErikRegnauld wrote: I know this is my first post, but hear me out.

THANKSYOU! Brilliant post.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:14 PM Reply

At 7/20/12 10:05 PM, Travis wrote:
At 7/20/12 10:01 PM, Ragnarokia wrote:
At 7/19/12 10:30 AM, Darthdenim wrote: Bruce Wayne just fakes his death so he can run off to paris and have coffee with Catwoman? Batman's a fucking quitter!
So he should have to stay being fucked over forever rather than move on and actually learn to enjoy his life and try to get laid with Catwoman? I fail to see the logic there. This actually sounds great for Batman it is good that he can let his past go after moping about it his whole life.
I agree, it's the realism factor. Bruce Wayne has AGED. This isn't the comic books, this is a realistic take. Quit nitpicking.

I don't quite get what you are complaining about here. Is it not liking the fact it is realistic? I find it amusing also that I am apparently nitpicking for approving of him getting on with his life while you obviously aren't nitpicking being the one complaining about such a thing.

I'm supposed to believe some rookie cop with no training is gonna became the new Batman? Forget about it!
Bruce Wayne started off with full training and ability to kick arse then?
And this is also assuming that absolutely no cops go through the police academy... lol.

So...I really don't get your continued complaints here either, it seems you are just randomly saying things. My point stands that you can't complain someone without training becomes Batman when Bruce himself started off without training, he made himself into Batman as all others who take the name also do and have done in the past.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:32 PM Reply

At 7/20/12 10:30 PM, Travis wrote:
At 7/20/12 10:14 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: stuff
I was agreeing with you lol.

Ah my applogies, I thought it was the OP replying for some reason so that's why it didn't seem to make much sense, makes a lot more sense that it was a different person.

I will blame a mix of being tired and not giving a shit.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:39 PM Reply

Did it bother anybody else that Gotham is a different city again?

I loved the way Gotham looked in Batman Begins, and I didn't like how they just turned Gotham into Chicago in TDK.

Then they go and change the city again! Now it's New York.

Why does Gotham have to look like a totally different place in every damn movie?

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:47 PM Reply

At 7/20/12 12:14 PM, jjjkuk wrote: Fixed.

seriously, dude?


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:48 PM Reply

This is what you get for seeing a Nolan film.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 10:50 PM Reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hen0ZIhmL04&feature=g-all-u

The Cinema Snob thought it was a mess too.

I'm kind of glad It's not just me.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 11:01 PM Reply

Technically these are not "spoilers" because you cannot spoil a plot hat is already rotten.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 20th, 2012 @ 11:14 PM Reply

At 7/20/12 10:58 PM, e-lord wrote: banes voice was goddamn hilarious

in the comics he was supposed to be hispanic

as opposed to whatever the fuck that is

And I thought Batman's voice was unintentionally funny. Bane took that to a whole new level.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 12:05 AM Reply

At 7/20/12 10:12 PM, TrevorW wrote:
At 7/20/12 09:44 PM, ErikRegnauld wrote: I know this is my first post, but hear me out.
THANKSYOU! Brilliant post.

Thank you as well.

I just thought I would share my opinion.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 12:11 AM Reply

The whole realism thing goes out the window when Bruce Wayne teleports back to Gotham from fucking India.

If this were any other superhero franchise I would let it go, but these movies are supposed to have a sort of pseudo realism to them. This movie damn near shattered that concept.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 12:43 AM Reply

At 7/21/12 12:11 AM, Darthdenim wrote: The whole realism thing goes out the window when Bruce Wayne teleports back to Gotham from fucking India.

If this were any other superhero franchise I would let it go, but these movies are supposed to have a sort of pseudo realism to them. This movie damn near shattered that concept.

He didnt teleport. It was a matter of days. The whole time period between the activation of the bomb and its detonation was 5 months.

So Bruce got out of the Prison and it took him several days to get back to Gotham. International flights take a day or two, so its not a huge stretch to think that he got back in time.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 12:50 AM Reply

There is no guards at that prison. They seriously have not figured out how to get out of there?

The Robin name drop was the worst thing of all. Robin is not the characters name! That's like finding out that the Joker's christian name actually is Joker.

Is Bruce Wayne's legal name Baterson Manfred?

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 08:50 AM Reply

At 7/21/12 12:50 AM, Darthdenim wrote: The Robin name drop was the worst thing of all. Robin is not the characters name! That's like finding out that the Joker's christian name actually is Joker.

I don't know anything about comics of Batman or anything, but the Robin part made me go what the fuck. I loved the movie (except Bane's voice), but the ending left me baffled. Does he become Batman? Or Robin? Does Bruce Wayne come back? Did he leave a Robin suit? Where do we even go from here? Will there be a new movie?

Fucking open endings man.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 09:10 AM Reply

The bom thing was so fucking cliche, I clocked out when that came around.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 09:51 AM Reply

there's nothing wrong with the ending, just your taste in films


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 11:51 AM Reply

What part of Robin = Robin do you people not understand?

HE'S NOT BECOMING THE NEXT BATMAN

Why the hell would his name be Robin if he became the next Batman? This movie was too smart for you people.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 11:53 AM Reply

I thought that was Alferds imagination, he see's that all the time when he eat at that cafe.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 11:56 AM Reply

The one with joker in was great, fucking intense as shit aswell.
I'll go back to reading the old comics and watching the old cartoon movies, those are the shit.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 21st, 2012 @ 03:06 PM Reply

At 7/21/12 11:51 AM, jjjkuk wrote: What part of Robin = Robin do you people not understand?

HE'S NOT BECOMING THE NEXT BATMAN

Why the hell would his name be Robin if he became the next Batman? This movie was too smart for you people.

Actually he is not becoming Robin, that was just Nolan making a nod to the fans and to signify that he was Batman's successor.

The Robins from the CB are Jason Todd, Tim Drake, and Dick Grayson. Not Robin John Blake.

Robin Blake is going to become Batman, but as I said on the previous page, Bruce is going to come back and help.

In reality it doesnt matter because Nolan's series is done, and WB will do a reboot in a few years anyway to fit Batman into the Justice League movies.

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 06:55 PM Reply

The only thing I didn't like about the ending was how Bane ended up dying, and not a single fucking nod towards the Joker at all. They could have had some throwaway line about what happened to. Vigilante taking him out. Angry mob people in prison. Anything. I mean shit, they had Jonathan fucking Crane have a cameo, but not one single line for the Jokers fate?


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 07:00 PM Reply

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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 09:48 PM Reply

DC has the most boring generic superheros ever.


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 09:59 PM Reply

dont worry, the MOVIE is BETTER then NG


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Response to Dark Knight Rises ending sucks! Jul. 23rd, 2012 @ 12:14 AM Reply

At 7/19/12 01:19 PM, Darthdenim wrote: I had hoped that Morgan Freeman might actually get to act in this one, but no.

It's just Morgan Freeman being Morgan Freeman...again.

And thats means what exactly?


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