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Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 18th, 2012 @ 03:20 AM Reply

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/07/16/sonic-lab-akai-eie -pro-usb-audio-/

Have any of you guys seen this yet? I'm heavily considering upgrading to this. I'm currently using a M-Audio Fast Pro which I love and all but I'm looking at the 3 extra USB ports, 4 audio ins and 4 audio outs on the EIE and I'm falling in love... Just soooo many ports <3
Also have some VU meters would be lovely opposed to the fast track's very inaccurate pulsing LEDs. Let alone the layout on the front of this looks perfect. The 96khz is fine since I have to record everything I ever do at 44.1khz anyways... Oh why won't the industry standard move up even just a bit past 44.1... If we even go up to just 48khz I'll be stoked.
But that aside, what do you guys think of this one? I think she's a reeeeeeaaaaal purty one~

[I'm personally probably gonna buy it after I order a few other important things..Cubase, RAM... a working computer :(]

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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 18th, 2012 @ 03:23 AM Reply

Pretty bulky, if you ask me.

Not to mention that it looks old fashioned, in a good way.
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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 18th, 2012 @ 05:47 PM Reply

At 7/18/12 03:20 AM, Trampzy wrote: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/07/16/sonic-lab-akai-eie -pro-usb-audio-/

I bought one, but it has been in storage for the last two months due to a move. It is nice to see someone else has found it. I think it's good for the money with my limited use with it, but it takes some configuring as the 16bit version does not have any specific drivers. People have left bad reviews about noise over the 24 bit models drivers, but I have not experienced this on the 16 bit one.

I'll let you know more as I get more experience with it.


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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 18th, 2012 @ 07:21 PM Reply

At 7/18/12 05:47 PM, matvei wrote:
At 7/18/12 03:20 AM, Trampzy wrote: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/07/16/sonic-lab-akai-eie -pro-usb-audio-/
I bought one, but it has been in storage for the last two months due to a move. It is nice to see someone else has found it. I think it's good for the money with my limited use with it, but it takes some configuring as the 16bit version does not have any specific drivers. People have left bad reviews about noise over the 24 bit models drivers, but I have not experienced this on the 16 bit one.

I'll let you know more as I get more experience with it.

Sweet yeah post again once you get going with it a bit. I'm trying to decide on it because Sonic State gave it a great review, but some people on the internet have complained about it.. though from the sound of things, it doesn't sound like they know what they're doing half the time.

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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 19th, 2012 @ 09:04 PM Reply

At 7/18/12 07:21 PM, Trampzy wrote:
At 7/18/12 05:47 PM, matvei wrote:
At 7/18/12 03:20 AM, Trampzy wrote: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/07/16/sonic-lab-akai-eie -pro-usb-audio-/
I bought one, but it has been in storage for the last two months due to a move. It is nice to see someone else has found it. I think it's good for the money with my limited use with it, but it takes some configuring as the 16bit version does not have any specific drivers. People have left bad reviews about noise over the 24 bit models drivers, but I have not experienced this on the 16 bit one.

I'll let you know more as I get more experience with it.
Sweet yeah post again once you get going with it a bit. I'm trying to decide on it because Sonic State gave it a great review, but some people on the internet have complained about it.. though from the sound of things, it doesn't sound like they know what they're doing half the time.

I just got it out of storage today and will do some samples with it and post em up with specs. For now, I was successfully able to get it to split the audio channels on my desktop environment.. so like, Anything in input one went to channel one in my daw, input two went to channel two.. etc to 4 channels. It was nice because I am used to crap interfaces that go all into "general audio usb device" and unless I want to write some custom driver or put on the soldering gloves, it becomes difficult. I don't remember quality, so stay tuned and I will give you something to mull over.


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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 12:08 AM Reply

Pardon the double post, but here is some relevant information.

http://soundcloud.com/mpahrens/akai-eie-pro-test-sonar

I did a test, and if you don't want to follow the link, below is my assessment that a blurbed about on it. I hope it helps(?)

I do apologize for the lack of effort, first though, in recording it but I was just messing around so that you could get an idea of inadvertent noise over asio that some devices have. This one doesn't seem to. So yay :) there ya go.

:Here is a test I did for a newgrounder who wanted my input on using the Akai Pro EIE 16bit model. Ukulele is a cordoba electro acoustic tenor. Recording software is Sonar X1. eleasped recording time is like ~20minutes. Driver is Asio4All.

:No preamp, no effects added, no hardlimiting, pure device -&rt; application without edit

:Basically, I'm really lazy -- and am just messin around -- so no compression, no goodness, no editing, most of it is left channel only which I will explain later, so deal with it. It is both a hardware and software test because I do not know how to Sonar.
:Clip Tests:
:1) Ukulele - through powered internal piezo pickup 100% volume - high treble, med bass - ch1 gain 90% - mono on box, left on sonar - Asio4All driver
:2) ditto
:3) Ukulele - through powered internal piezo pickup 100% volume- low treble, low bass - ch1 gain 75% - mono on box, left on sonar - Asio4all driver
:4) Ukulele - through powered internal piezo pickup 75% volume - med treble, med bass - ch1 gain 85% - mono on box, left on sonar - Asio4All driver Phantom Power off
:5) Ukulele - through fantom external pieze pickup, no volume control - no balance controls - ch1 gain 95% - mono on box, right on sonar - Phantom Power on.
:6) Ukulele - internal on L channel on test 4 settings, external on right with test 5 settings. Phantom Power on.

:Ok so here are my notes. The gain controls on each channel on the EIE are tempermental in that 80% is much softer than 90%. For most limited power or non-power operations -- mics, guitars, etc -- that you are running off of phantom power (+48V) you will be in this land.

:It splits 1/2 on left and right automatically. if you set it to be mono (blended) on the front switch, it will still split on the usb. However, on most daws you can just set one audio channel as mono and direct it from the "usb device 1 - left input" which is channel 1.

:Do not leave phantom power on any non connected channels, so if there is nothing in channels 3/4 turn it off. It will get rid of any noise. Headphone and master volumes seem to only matter to the output channels in the back. Keep monitor knob centered for the most part, unless you want to cut out most of either your computer or the inputs. I kept mine on "out" to hear my computer monitoring only and limit echo feedback.

:It powered my non-powered pickup fairly well. The noise you hear in the right channel is the pick up itself, not the device -- it is a PoS pickup, so no worries.

:I reccommend this recorder. I enjoy it and with a little love it packs a good punch. I might run a preamp or mixer before it for the sake of quality control, but for the most part Device - &rt; daw is fully functional to me.

:Next, if anyone wants it, I will record with a dynamic and some condenser mics in a limited space on acoustic instruments and voice to test. For now, though, this is what you get.


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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 02:31 AM Reply

Wow, thanks! That's soo much more than I was expecting. Ya I listened to the file on soundcloud, I loved the test notes you put with it. I didn't know about the the mono -> stereo split thing you mentioned.. I thought it was pretty cool, though it made it sound a little weird, since it made the audio sound like it was behind me, opposed to if you convert the track in a DAW, where it's just flat on both sides. Also you have a piezo that can optionally take phantom power? That's new to me.
Was the noise minimal? Also how were the VU's?
So far I'm convinced I should get this up on my shopping list!

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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 22nd, 2012 @ 01:55 PM Reply

At 7/22/12 02:31 AM, Trampzy wrote: Wow, thanks!

The VU monitors are very good. You can choose whether you want them to monitor the input or the output -- input being like guitar to box or mix to box; output being computer monitoring to box/headphones, etc.

I highly suggest a preamp, or going from amp to box for any passive instruments. Possibly for mics too ( or some kind of mixer)? I am not going to say that for certain, yet, because I do not have an XLR cable to test my mics properly. But, even my active ukulele pick up needed a little boost because it was only hitting 5 to 3 on the VU meter. Still a couple notches to go.

The stereo->mono thing is that there is a switch that either lets you have channel 1 as left and channel 2 as right (same for 3 -> left and 4 -> right)(stereo), or you can have 1,2,3,4 be even between both left and right (mono). However, on the computer as a generic usb audio card, it does not do this. In either case, channel one is usb audio device 1 left, channel two is usb audio device 1 right, channel 3 is usb audio device 2 left, channel 4 is usb audio device 2 right. This is so you can record each channel on a different track if you like. ORRRRRR, if you are using it as left/Right microphone or something, you can put usb audio device 1 stereo (chan 1 and 2) on one track. The freedom is amazing.

This is exactly what I bought it for. So now I can do my multi track recording, but in one take. Split the drums up between the for channels and I have complete control while my drummer doesn't have to hurt around with it. Split up guitar and bass outputs and they can play together with a better sense of rhythm, but I have them on different tracks for editing. It's lovely.

As for noise, I was very concerned with some reviews about that. Using some triangular device driver built into sonar, I was having crazy problems. With Asio4All, it is clear and clean. No real lag, I haven't had to move the buffer zone from default values yet. As you can hear, there is noise on my external pick up. That is because that pick up was cheap. But I wanted you to see that even with ambient air interference, it doesn't get tooooo distorted (beyond reason). With my internal pickup there was no real noise.

At first, there was this awful high pitched hum and I was like - oh no! But, it turns out that is what happens when you have channels 3/4 phantom power on with nothing plugged into 3 or 4. Also don't leave dead connections, like plugging a chord into the box but then the other end hangs loose; that causes noise. Common sense I know, but worth repeating.


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Response to Akai Eie Pro Audio Interface Jul. 23rd, 2012 @ 06:35 PM Reply

I was looking into it for bass guitar and mics and stuff ;D... Akai hasn't let me down so far :)


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