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4.20 / 5.00 15,007 ViewsI recently watched I am Sam. Everyone wanted to take this guy's kid away. But I thought he was a better parent than many of the non-retarded people. And they were arguing that he wouldn't be able to help her with schoolwork and stuff anymore. But that doesn't matter. the amazing part is he's functioning enough to take care of himself on his own and to keep a child alive and healthy for 7 years so far. I think he's more fit than most "normal" parents.
Although not sure about relating it to irl.
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At 7/6/12 02:30 PM, Piggler wrote: No retards are dumb
Buuuuurn.
I have not seen this movie, but I highly doubt there are many retarded people in real life who can take care of themselves and a child, considering the number of non-retarded people who can't even take care of themselves. Not to mention the issue of helping the child with schoolwork and such. Maybe it could work out if two married retards raise a child rather than a single retarded parent.
At 7/6/12 02:30 PM, Piggler wrote: No retards are dumb
Oh, you're clever.
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At 7/6/12 02:30 PM, Piggler wrote: No retards are dumb
We know you're dumb honey.
I'd say no based on the fact that a child's mental development in the first 5 years rely on a parent. The child wouldn't be able to reach it's full potential if it had even high function down-syndrome parents. Of course this is all in an ideal world where "normal" parents don't beat and smother their kids. So who knows, they could be better parents than 25% of the normal folk.
I don't see why not as long as they're loving and functioning members of society. Now if their mental retardation affected their parenting skills on the other hand, that would be a different story.
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I think it all depends on how "mentally challenged" one is because there are a lot of high functioning ruhtards that still get things accomplished
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At 7/6/12 04:24 PM, Swag-in-a-Bag wrote: I think it all depends on how "mentally challenged" one is because there are a lot of high functioning ruhtards that still get things accomplished
I agree with this. Some people with downs are particularly high-functioning.
Depending on how severe is the retardation in the adult. If it limits to a few communication skills, sure he can raise a kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzMAuI1vj0
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I'd say that while there are exceptions, it still just sounds like a bad idea. The thing is, everyone is saying "Well, look at them compared to normal parents," but you really shouldn't be comparing them like it was a sort of competition. The important thing is how able and willing the parents are to help their children accomplish their goals. While I'm sure that there are some retarded people that would be better at doing so than otherwise normal people, that doesn't necessarily mean that either one is an excellent choice for being a parent.
At 7/6/12 02:12 PM, Sensationalism wrote: But that doesn't matter. the amazing part is he's functioning enough to take care of himself on his own and to keep a child alive and healthy for 7 years so far.
Why does it not matter? Because it's portrayed as not mattering in the movie which is dripping with sentimental floss?
Let's face it, retards aren't capable of raising themselves, much less another person.
Quit watching terrible Hollywood films starring that piece of shit Sean Penn and start thinking realistically.
"Love" doesn't do shit for a child. It doesn't teach a child, feed them, clothe them, take them to the dentist/hospital, make them suddenly develop social skills or fill out job applications for them. It's entirely fucking useless.
If I ever find out that I live near a retard trying to a raise a child on their own, I'm calling CPS and getting the child in a new home.
Mild retardation, maybe. Severe retardation, I'd venture a snowball's chance in hell. Ultimately I think it depends on the case of the individual in question.
At 7/6/12 02:12 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I recently watched I am Sam. Everyone wanted to take this guy's kid away. But I thought he was a better parent than many of the non-retarded people. And they were arguing that he wouldn't be able to help her with schoolwork and stuff anymore. But that doesn't matter. the amazing part is he's functioning enough to take care of himself on his own and to keep a child alive and healthy for 7 years so far. I think he's more fit than most "normal" parents.
He's a fictional character. It's not intelligent to try to substantiate a claim(In this case, that mentally challenged parents can successfully raise children) using fictional examples, as they are probably not realistic. Hollywood isn't known for being realistic. I would think you'd know that.
Although not sure about relating it to irl.
You shouldn't be. If you want to substantiate your claim, it'd be in your best interest to cite scholarly journals, scientific articles, etc. etc. and not Hollywood films. Otherwise, you won't be taken seriously.
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At 7/6/12 07:11 PM, ScaryPicnic wrote: god that film was awful
You are messing with my feels right there.
At 7/6/12 06:43 PM, tox wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzMAuI1vj0
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At 7/6/12 07:13 PM, JakeDesuDesu wrote:At 7/6/12 07:11 PM, ScaryPicnic wrote: god that film was awfulYou are messing with my feels right there.
stop being a babby m8
that movie was a cliche mess that had an astronomical cringe-per-minute ratio
i'm not even a bad boi / gangsta man, but honestly i couldn't shed a tear at that film if i tried
children (mentally) should not raise children retards cannot give consent
if it is a gigantic horrible typo mah bad
Most parents can't help kids with homework anyway.
I remember once I got up to like 6th grade, my parents had no clue the hell I was doing in math.
That depends on the level of retardation. high-functioning retards can have the capacity to take care of a child.
on the other hand they may affect their kids
At 7/6/12 07:12 PM, Narcissy wrote: Forrest Gump could do it.
Oh yeah! He did a fine job. What a lucky kid, a druggie that died and a retard for parents.
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just ask yourself if you can raise a kid
At 7/6/12 02:30 PM, Piggler wrote: No retards are dumb
"No retards are dumb", or "No, retards are dumb"?
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More than likely. I meet parents on a daily basis who clearly have some level of retardation.
At 7/6/12 02:30 PM, Piggler wrote: No retards are dumb
This.
Well, it depends how the retard was raised.
Retard: a handicap or holding back of ones abilities
Mental disorder: a inability for a (human) to grasp, learn, incorporate, or change something in a mental state to be able to function
Kids: a young version of the adult version of the selected species
Kid: legal status of a youth between the ages of 2-16
1. If there is a situation that arises that a mentally challenged individual becomes the sole guardian of a healthy child, then firstly the adult must have had the child, meaning that they are capable of understanding the world around them enough to know what they want, in this case a child
2. If the child is of health then the individual may procure enough support from the world around them to function normally
3. The new child if healthy in mind and body may communicate a need for exterior help for the parent, and thusly the bond may be within judgment of a court if the parent may as they are support the basic needs of a child and them selves.
4. If the needs of the child is met, be it food, shelter, water, and all are within good standing, then by law there is nothing that can be done to seperate the guardian and the child.
The answer is... it comes down to a simple idea of,
can you fuck and understand a child? â^s
Can you provide for your self and a life? â^s
Other then that... yes, and the legal system can't do Jack shit about it if they are handicapped near or even on that line...
they need to cross the second in poor standing before we can do anything about it...
as for should? That's a social issue and under the privacy of information act and security of person act we can interfere with altering a situation to stop it...
Only talk about it
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