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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:26:03 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:23 PM, Bobbybroccoli wrote:
At 7/4/12 08:21 PM, 4761 wrote: "hateyou1" is simply a naive imbecile who can't comprehend the term "identical".
Why the hell can;t anyone understand that he is a troll. Meant to ignite the rage of loyal Newgrounders in a popular thread.

Ha, you beat me too it, i was about to post the same thing

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:27:55 Reply

Why the hell can;t anyone understand that he is a troll. Meant to ignite the rage of loyal Newgrounders in a popular thread.

He is not a troll. He is an idiot.
There usually is a difference.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:28:16 Reply

Let me list another possibility that I PM'd that crybaby JonnyUtah (yes man, you're acting like a fucking baby and you look soo pathetic that I can already tell you're going to lose the lawsuit if you would even have the balls to file one):

Perhaps the owners of the site asked ANOTHER admin on the site for permission and he granted them permission to the art. How do you know that it wasn't ANOTHER admin on this site that is working with them and the owner of that site are friends with one of this site's admins. They could then reveal the papers in court that they got permission. As I have said, none of you guys have any evidence that support your case.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:34:11 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:28 PM, hateyou1 wrote: Perhaps the owners of the site asked ANOTHER admin on the site for permission and he granted them permission to the art. How do you know tha

If any of that were true, the company would not have removed links to the t-shirt page or responded claiming it to be original artwork despite all the evidence to the contrary being presented to them. Use your brain.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:34:59 Reply

Perhaps the owners of the site asked ANOTHER admin on the site for permission and he granted them permission to the art. How do you know that it wasn't ANOTHER admin on this site that is working with them and the owner of that site are friends with one of this site's admins.

Because no admin would do such a stupid thing? And even if he did, the administrators of the faded site have yet to say that an admin on this site gave permission to them in the first place. They have not given any sort of evidence supporting their case. These hypotheses and wild improbable conjectures will not get your point across.

They could then reveal the papers in court that they got permission. As I have said, none of you guys have any evidence that support your case.

The people at Faded have been shown to (in this thread) say that they had made the tankman completely originally, nothing about gaining permission from the admins of this site. It's pretty laughable when you say we haven't give evidence when we quite clearly have and all you are making is ridiculous hypotheses.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:36:31 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:34 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 7/4/12 08:28 PM, hateyou1 wrote: Perhaps the owners of the site asked ANOTHER admin on the site for permission and he granted them permission to the art. How do you know tha
If any of that were true, the company would not have removed links to the t-shirt page or responded claiming it to be original artwork despite all the evidence to the contrary being presented to them. Use your brain.

Perhaps part of the deal was to not claim that they had permission unless they were being tried in court? As I have said, nobody knows the full details.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:39:02 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:28 PM, hateyou1 wrote: gettin desperate there?

Okay guys, since we're going to unlikely hypotheticals here, let me give it a try.

What if JohnnyUtah and whoever the fuck owns F.A.D.E.D. (although I'm willing to bet it's something douchebaggy like 'Chad') both belonged to a defunct, religious, sodomy-worshiping, cult run by Space-alien-lizard-people. The tankman (or as they called it, the messiah) was the symbol of their faith. When the cult eventually broke apart over a disagreement stemming from an American Idol episode, both parties claimed the symbol as their own art. But neither can take it to court, because being under oath they would have to acknowledge the existence of the cult, and doing so would cause them to implode before they can say it, because you know, illuminati.

YOU CANNOT DISPROVE ME, YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:40:06 Reply

I've taken the trouble of archiving each and every page of the site as an image just in case someone wants to view it after it's taken down, if it is.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:40:38 Reply

I think we can all agree that hateyou1 is a moron.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:41:33 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:36 PM, hateyou1 wrote: Perhaps part of the deal was to not claim that they had permission unless they were being tried in court?

Cool facts bro.

As I have said, nobody knows the full details.

And you're dreaming up unsubstantiated theories which contradict all evidence we have.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:41:49 Reply

Perhaps part of the deal was to not claim that they had permission unless they were being tried in court? As I have said, nobody knows the full details.

Oh yes. When multiple people are currently badgering faded about the originality of the tankman design, they are going to do nothing until their being sued? Not try to explain that they had permission all along and get it over with so they would have less time wasted and less angry emails?

Use common sense please. Again, this is an extremely improbable situation that will hold no regards in court. You don't need the full details if you know what the hell is going on. If I take a knife, go to some person on the street and stab him repeatedly, stand right next to his body until that person dies, would you honestly believe me when I say "Nope. I didn't stab him. It was a super alien monster that swooped in for the kill. This bloody knife in my hand? Just a coincidence; I was chopping up some tomatoes and decided to go outside."


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:44:18 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:34 PM, 4761 wrote:
Perhaps the owners of the site asked ANOTHER admin on the site for permission and he granted them permission to the art. How do you know that it wasn't ANOTHER admin on this site that is working with them and the owner of that site are friends with one of this site's admins.
Because no admin would do such a stupid thing? And even if he did, the administrators of the faded site have yet to say that an admin on this site gave permission to them in the first place. They have not given any sort of evidence supporting their case. These hypotheses and wild improbable conjectures will not get your point across.

They could then reveal the papers in court that they got permission. As I have said, none of you guys have any evidence that support your case.
The people at Faded have been shown to (in this thread) say that they had made the tankman completely originally, nothing about gaining permission from the admins of this site. It's pretty laughable when you say we haven't give evidence when we quite clearly have and all you are making is ridiculous hypotheses.

If he read through the entire thread then he would know that when one player complained they replied by saying the work is 100 percent theirs. Don't bother with this idiot. The funniest thing is that the best "art" that douche bag company came up with is their logo written backwards and in some fancy font.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:48:22 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:15 PM, hateyou1 wrote: Doesn't matter. If the artist made the art before newgrounds made this "tankman", then why does the artist need to credit newgrounds? Even if it was the other way around, newgrounds would still be profiting from their art, which is still unlawful.

Because A: He isn't selling it, NG isn't selling it. Nobody is profiting, it's fanart and B: If it was his art, then why in fuck's name would he credit Newgrounds? I'm not saying he should,I'M SAYING HE DID.

Then how many posts did the admins make to stop the hate comments? The correct answer would be 0. Therefore, they WOULD be held accounted for the comments.

No. They wouldn't. Contrary to popular belief, just because you don't stop a problem doesn't make you part of the problem. It isn't Newground's problem, because Newgrounds itself did not harass them. It's users did. If you could sue a site every time it's users did something, 4chan would be ancient history.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 20:52:02 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:41 PM, Bees wrote:
At 7/4/12 08:40 PM, Slint wrote: I think we can all agree that hateyou1 is a moron.
perhaps an admin is just paying him to be a moron ?

Hmm perhaps.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:00:26 Reply

there are still people who actually expect to have a honest discussion with hateyou1?

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:02:24 Reply

At 7/4/12 08:27 PM, 4761 wrote:
Why the hell can;t anyone understand that he is a troll. Meant to ignite the rage of loyal Newgrounders in a popular thread.
He is not a troll. He is an idiot.
There usually is a difference.

If you're a good enough troll there usually isn't.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:02:33 Reply

At 7/4/12 09:00 PM, Powerage wrote: there are still people who actually expect to have a honest discussion with hateyou1?

I've been bottling a lot lately. Feels good to argue with someone, even if they are a brick wall reincarnated into the body of a slug that found a keyboard.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:05:53 Reply

Huh, if you don't check in on the BBS daily, you seem to miss important things.
Very proud of you guys for taking action against these art theives. I wish I could've helped us win this Newgrounds victory.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:08:20 Reply

ihateyou1 has taken all of you for a ride. Congratz., you have been trolled by and obvious troll.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:12:22 Reply

At 7/4/12 06:23 PM, hateyou1 wrote: It's just a guy wearing snow goggles. Newgrounds didn't invent snow goggles, did they? I swear you guys are almost as stupid as the occupy wallstreet mob and just as thuggish. If I were them, I would actually be suing this site for harassment due to admins encouraging hate. That right there, would turn the lawsuit inside out. Good job morons, good job.

Wait wait wait wait wait, wait, wait ...wait

...wait.

A guy wearing snow goggles? I thought it was a robot? Utah, you lied to me again!

Also, hateyou1, you're only making yourself look foolish by your posts here. The things you're suggesting are entirely improbable, as well as being provably false, and then you're throwing your hands in the air claiming "nobody has all the facts." A retarded monkey could do a better job defending FADED than you, and considering I'm pretty sure that's actually what you're paid to do, that's pretty sad. Please, just quite while you're not so far behind.

ANYWAY

I'm about to sign off from the Internet for 6 days, minus the occasional visit here and there to save/blam some things and keep my experience rolling. In my absence, it's the job of you fine folks to pick up where I've left off: when a new ripped-off party is revealed, contact them with a direct link to the item in question and just simply say that you've found something that's ripping off their work, that almost 100% of the company's merchandise is from stolen designs and this one happens to be theirs, and you just thought they'd want to know. Contact the various social media outlets they have accounts with and inform them of the business practices of FADED, and point out to them that this probably isn't the kind of company they want to be affiliated with. Do what you do evenly and politely - you're just providing information - and then move on.

If I somehow receive a response from one of the companies I've contacted, I'll drop in here to let you guys know, but I won't be keeping up with the thread. Always remember...


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:19:28 Reply

At 7/4/12 09:02 PM, All-American-Badass wrote:
At 7/4/12 08:27 PM, 4761 wrote:
Why the hell can;t anyone understand that he is a troll. Meant to ignite the rage of loyal Newgrounders in a popular thread.
He is not a troll. He is an idiot.
There usually is a difference.
If you're a good enough troll there usually isn't.

He'd have to be a damned good one. Usually, the easy answer is the right one. He's an idiot.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:21:46 Reply

At 7/4/12 09:08 PM, sweet21 wrote: ihateyou1 has taken all of you for a ride. Congratz., you have been trolled by and obvious troll.

Oh so apparently every person who acts like an idiot is a troll?

And like it matters? I like arguing on the internet, it's fun.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:39:35 Reply

omg guys

hateyou1 is the owner FADED


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 21:50:16 Reply

At 7/4/12 09:39 PM, Egotractor wrote: omg guys

hateyou1 is the owner FADED

it is weirdly suspicious that it's all these large company brands and then a random tankmen painting I've done.


Tom and I have been working on something hmmm????

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 22:06:03 Reply

Did you guys seriously attempt to have a discussion with hateyou1? The user that was infamous for spamming people's inbox and calling them dummies?


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 22:06:17 Reply

At 7/4/12 09:50 PM, JohnnyUtah wrote:
At 7/4/12 09:39 PM, Egotractor wrote: omg guys

hateyou1 is the owner FADED
it is weirdly suspicious that it's all these large company brands and then a random tankmen painting I've done.

Suspicious indeed, especially since his view on copyright infringement used to be quite different.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 23:30:51 Reply

Is any civil action being taken against this company?

I REALLY want them wiped off the face of this earth, and all their douche/scum-bag selves. Seriously Johnny, this is your artwork so you should really come to a decision if you want to take legal action.


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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 23:36:34 Reply

The direct link to the shirt appears to be invalid, and I cannot seem to find any instance of it in their store anymore.

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 23:41:41 Reply

we won guys!!!

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Response to Clothing co. copies Tankmen design? 2012-07-04 23:46:24 Reply

At 7/4/12 11:30 PM, DarkShadowblade wrote: Is any civil action being taken against this company?

I REALLY want them wiped off the face of this earth, and all their douche/scum-bag selves. Seriously Johnny, this is your artwork so you should really come to a decision if you want to take legal action.

legal action costs a lot of money...
but publicly harassing and shaming them into submission is FREE :)


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