At 7/1/12 02:29 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote:
At 7/1/12 02:08 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote:
Nah, forget that. I wish it would be taken off very quickly. Maybe there's some kind of nostalgic effect about porn on the front page, and perhaps it shows NG's kinda old "adult website" mentality. However, children do come to this site, quite often in fact. And it saddens me that one of the staff would be stupid enough to degenerate the good name of NG with something like that, joke or not.Are you serious?
I might have an advantage since I've actually been around long enough to see how this site has evolved and what it was like back in the day. But this site was raised on hentai banners, adult themes, 18+ content, and they had a headliner that wasn't trying to be kid friendly.
I don't care how many kids come on this site, this site was never made for children. I may have found this site when I was 13 but the amount of porn ads and adult oriented stuff never ruined me or scared me or ruined my view of the site.
If anything, catering to the underage users creates a great lack in creativity. Suddenly, you're not allowed to cuss, have adult themes, or show a little nudity. If their flashes do have any of that, they are secluded to the adult section. It's like how some movies are rated R and yet those movies move on to win academy awards. But if those movies aren't hide away and it's an annoyance even for those of age to see them, the movies will never go anywhere.
Newgrounds isn't here to baby sit or cater to those underage just because their parents don't keep an eye on them. Alot of other users, including myself, grew up on this site to where were all in a general age group of 18-25. If anything, you should commend the mods for keeping their sense of humor or appreciating a flash or game, even if it isn't suited for all ages.
You're whole counter argument wreaks of logic fallacy. One being the domino effect. Being that keeping porn off the front page would eventually lead to total censorship. Which is, of course, ridiculous. You're not cultivating "creativity" by permitting a disgusting joke of a flash to be viewed by high amounts of online traffic that includes children. It's a low brow joke to place something like that on the front page. And regardless of how NG started, it is clearly not as it once was. It now is the home to several, brilliant artists, writers, musicians and other liberal artists that deserve a spot light that takes precedence over porn. It is not to stifle, censor, or restrict these fine artists from using any form of nudity, sex, or likewise from their pieces, however, the key difference between Porn and art, is that one is cultivated in depravity while the other is crafted with an artistic vision in mind. If you sat there and told me that the flash that sits there on the front page is anything but a sad joke than I would sincerely have your mental sanity put into question. Further more, regardless of whether you're 13 YO self could handle graphic material like that displayed, it is not that which I care for, it is that more and more people would think like yourself, that NG is a site that is merely a flash dump site for what so ever enters the portal. And it can be, and is, so much more than that, and it is about time we started discriminating against mediocrity rather than cheer it on as a joke. There is a much needed raise in standards, but people like you, would rather we maintain a linear progress that leads nowhere. The site is never ok where it is, it can always improve and we, as users, must demand the progress we seek. It is much less the increase in technology that makes flash creating easier, as it is creativity, that creates great flash. And we lack that, and good story.
The days of mediocre porn slideshows is far and gone. I'm sorry if you grew accustom to a particular skill level that never rose above terrible, but it is not that time any longer. We must create the change we seek. Improvement is possible, but you would refuse it, because you don't really care about this site, about the struggle of flash makers, artists, or writers who are always seeking improvement, instead you award the mediocre who could care less, and don't try. It's time to demand more, seek more, and do more. It is the day we are satisfied with where we are, the day are ambition is lost and the passion is cooled, that we stop progressing. And above all else, we must never stop moving forward.
You may see, silly flashes, bad jokes, and crappy animation, but I see people attempting to capture a laugh, make a smile or create a masterpiece, and you can not do that through porn, not at all.
However, I do see that it is the staff's choice whether or not to place flash like that on the front page. And that it is clearly a joke, lowbrow as it is. Though I don't agree with it, though I'd much rather have someone's first attempt a tween than that, I can't oppose it. It was meant as joke, however I don't find it very funny but then again, humor has always been an IMO thing, hasn't it?
/highly critical analysis at the lack of poetic fervor in the common user.