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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 19:00:49 Reply

I see no porn on the front page. I only see art.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 19:55:10 Reply

At 6/30/12 07:00 PM, FatBadger wrote: I see no porn on the front page. I only see art.

To each his own.

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 19:57:10 Reply

Oh FatBadgers still making spam flashes

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 20:24:32 Reply

At 6/29/12 05:22 PM, Asperchu wrote: Let's get back to our roots.

hahahaha why is this fetured?!

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 20:31:03 Reply

At 6/30/12 05:16 PM, tarahloveshentai wrote: Anyone remember this ad? It used to be my favorite avatar in the world when I was 15.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 20:44:56 Reply

At 6/29/12 06:00 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: NG used to be all about the Adult games.

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 20:45:10 Reply

At 6/30/12 05:16 PM, tarahloveshentai wrote: Anyone remember this ad? It used to be my favorite avatar in the world when I was 15.

wow. flashback.

I remember coming on here in like 2002 and my stepdad thought I was looking at porn because of the ads. It took me a while to explain.

At 6/30/12 06:00 PM, Narcissy wrote: I just really want the sexual suggestive ads. It fits the old "Fuck you, we're Newgrounds" attitude.

I wonder if that "assholes" collection is still on the site. I mean the collection of flashes that were in extremely poor taste, making fun of people who died, tragedies like 9/11, etc.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-06-30 22:02:26 Reply

That title sounds gross.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 01:21:57 Reply

At 6/30/12 06:14 PM, tarahloveshentai wrote:
At 6/30/12 06:12 PM, tarahloveshentai wrote:
blue hentai girl for VJF

Thanks. Forgotten how hot she looked in the blue. Gonna steal that gif if you don't mind.

It's just crazy to me to see these and know that there 8-10 years old. It's somewhat nostalgic but also a realization how much NG has changed despite how minor it seems.

I know my sign-up date says 2011, but I have been coming to this site for years under other names, I just forgot their passwords, lol, and yes it is crazy how much the site changes in major and minor ways over the years. I remember the first time I found NG and watched Scrotum the puppy dying (all of the episodes) and playing Skullkid (kid with skull for head and chainsaw running around in an office killing people). Some of those Hentai ads were crazy if you know what I mean, but I sometimes miss them just because they're gone.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 01:47:26 Reply

The frontpage is temporary, the portal is eternal and the top of it is yet blemished.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 01:48:10 Reply

There have been worse things posted on the front page. Far worse things.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 02:08:05 Reply

Nah, forget that. I wish it would be taken off very quickly. Maybe there's some kind of nostalgic effect about porn on the front page, and perhaps it shows NG's kinda old "adult website" mentality. However, children do come to this site, quite often in fact. And it saddens me that one of the staff would be stupid enough to degenerate the good name of NG with something like that, joke or not. I've thought that NG can maintain it's rugged "everything by everyone" mentality without lowering the standards to such garbage. Starbarians was an amazing flash made by one of the very best flash makers I've ever known and it had tits and blood and was just funny as hell, it was vulgar but tasteful. Porn is rather simply the latter: Vulgar. Point being, porn is a disgusting, tasteless thing that can be enjoyed by people in their own privacy when they look for it, hidden away as it should be, but not out in the open like on the front page. What does that say about NG? Tasteless, vulgar, trashy, a site for horny 13 YO degenerates? More like all of the above.

I'm by and far, no prune. However, there are great pieces of art on this website. There are works that people have poured they're hearts and souls into, great pieces of art from the flash making community, So much of which slips through the portal unnoticed like sand in an hourglass. But we'd ignore this and promote such trash? Why? We are better than this, the community and artistry as a whole, is better than that. Better than cheap, poorly put together fetish anime slideshows, that's for sure. Sure, some of the material used in the flashes are cheap and tasteless, but it's at least used in a way to attract the viewer into it or used as comedy. It isn't just straight up, vulgarity that defaces the website.

The only thing I see in that picture, is a wasted spot that could have been used to showcase a much better piece such as Kagemono or Lucky Day Forever.

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 02:29:48 Reply

At 7/1/12 02:08 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote: Nah, forget that. I wish it would be taken off very quickly. Maybe there's some kind of nostalgic effect about porn on the front page, and perhaps it shows NG's kinda old "adult website" mentality. However, children do come to this site, quite often in fact. And it saddens me that one of the staff would be stupid enough to degenerate the good name of NG with something like that, joke or not.

Are you serious?

I might have an advantage since I've actually been around long enough to see how this site has evolved and what it was like back in the day. But this site was raised on hentai banners, adult themes, 18+ content, and they had a headliner that wasn't trying to be kid friendly.

I don't care how many kids come on this site, this site was never made for children. I may have found this site when I was 13 but the amount of porn ads and adult oriented stuff never ruined me or scared me or ruined my view of the site.

If anything, catering to the underage users creates a great lack in creativity. Suddenly, you're not allowed to cuss, have adult themes, or show a little nudity. If their flashes do have any of that, they are secluded to the adult section. It's like how some movies are rated R and yet those movies move on to win academy awards. But if those movies aren't hide away and it's an annoyance even for those of age to see them, the movies will never go anywhere.

Newgrounds isn't here to baby sit or cater to those underage just because their parents don't keep an eye on them. Alot of other users, including myself, grew up on this site to where were all in a general age group of 18-25. If anything, you should commend the mods for keeping their sense of humor or appreciating a flash or game, even if it isn't suited for all ages.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 03:14:32 Reply

At 7/1/12 02:29 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote:

Tarah needs to be the spokesperson of Newgrounds.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 03:40:34 Reply

At 7/1/12 02:29 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote:
At 7/1/12 02:08 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote: Nah, forget that. I wish it would be taken off very quickly. Maybe there's some kind of nostalgic effect about porn on the front page, and perhaps it shows NG's kinda old "adult website" mentality. However, children do come to this site, quite often in fact. And it saddens me that one of the staff would be stupid enough to degenerate the good name of NG with something like that, joke or not.
Are you serious?

I might have an advantage since I've actually been around long enough to see how this site has evolved and what it was like back in the day. But this site was raised on hentai banners, adult themes, 18+ content, and they had a headliner that wasn't trying to be kid friendly.

I don't care how many kids come on this site, this site was never made for children. I may have found this site when I was 13 but the amount of porn ads and adult oriented stuff never ruined me or scared me or ruined my view of the site.

If anything, catering to the underage users creates a great lack in creativity. Suddenly, you're not allowed to cuss, have adult themes, or show a little nudity. If their flashes do have any of that, they are secluded to the adult section. It's like how some movies are rated R and yet those movies move on to win academy awards. But if those movies aren't hide away and it's an annoyance even for those of age to see them, the movies will never go anywhere.

Newgrounds isn't here to baby sit or cater to those underage just because their parents don't keep an eye on them. Alot of other users, including myself, grew up on this site to where were all in a general age group of 18-25. If anything, you should commend the mods for keeping their sense of humor or appreciating a flash or game, even if it isn't suited for all ages.

You're whole counter argument wreaks of logic fallacy. One being the domino effect. Being that keeping porn off the front page would eventually lead to total censorship. Which is, of course, ridiculous. You're not cultivating "creativity" by permitting a disgusting joke of a flash to be viewed by high amounts of online traffic that includes children. It's a low brow joke to place something like that on the front page. And regardless of how NG started, it is clearly not as it once was. It now is the home to several, brilliant artists, writers, musicians and other liberal artists that deserve a spot light that takes precedence over porn. It is not to stifle, censor, or restrict these fine artists from using any form of nudity, sex, or likewise from their pieces, however, the key difference between Porn and art, is that one is cultivated in depravity while the other is crafted with an artistic vision in mind. If you sat there and told me that the flash that sits there on the front page is anything but a sad joke than I would sincerely have your mental sanity put into question. Further more, regardless of whether you're 13 YO self could handle graphic material like that displayed, it is not that which I care for, it is that more and more people would think like yourself, that NG is a site that is merely a flash dump site for what so ever enters the portal. And it can be, and is, so much more than that, and it is about time we started discriminating against mediocrity rather than cheer it on as a joke. There is a much needed raise in standards, but people like you, would rather we maintain a linear progress that leads nowhere. The site is never ok where it is, it can always improve and we, as users, must demand the progress we seek. It is much less the increase in technology that makes flash creating easier, as it is creativity, that creates great flash. And we lack that, and good story.

The days of mediocre porn slideshows is far and gone. I'm sorry if you grew accustom to a particular skill level that never rose above terrible, but it is not that time any longer. We must create the change we seek. Improvement is possible, but you would refuse it, because you don't really care about this site, about the struggle of flash makers, artists, or writers who are always seeking improvement, instead you award the mediocre who could care less, and don't try. It's time to demand more, seek more, and do more. It is the day we are satisfied with where we are, the day are ambition is lost and the passion is cooled, that we stop progressing. And above all else, we must never stop moving forward.

You may see, silly flashes, bad jokes, and crappy animation, but I see people attempting to capture a laugh, make a smile or create a masterpiece, and you can not do that through porn, not at all.

However, I do see that it is the staff's choice whether or not to place flash like that on the front page. And that it is clearly a joke, lowbrow as it is. Though I don't agree with it, though I'd much rather have someone's first attempt a tween than that, I can't oppose it. It was meant as joke, however I don't find it very funny but then again, humor has always been an IMO thing, hasn't it?

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 04:11:58 Reply

At 7/1/12 03:40 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote: You're whole counter argument wreaks of logic fallacy. One being the domino effect. Being that keeping porn off the front page would eventually lead to total censorship.

You make it sound like porn or flash/games with adult themes can't create a laugh or any emotion or use other than to jack off too. Yet you forget of all the flashes and games submitted over the years that helped NG gain popularity and helped form it.

Examples:

  • Retarded Animal Babies
    Retarded Animal Babies by Dave

    Something to watch while drunk.

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    4.26 / 5.00
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    3,738,974 Views
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    Ages 17+
  • A Punch-Out Montage
    A Punch-Out Montage by JeremyLokken

    Little Mac rises to the top of the boxing world and earns the title.

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    3.10 / 5.00
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    592,592 Views
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    Adults Only
  • Link's Quest For Ass
    Link's Quest For Ass by xritualfaminex

    Link searches for his piece of royal ass. (Princess Zelda)

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    4.10 / 5.00
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    Movie
    Popularity
    1,093,714 Views
    Rated
    Ages 17+
  • Ass N Titties
    Ass N Titties by Two-Scoops

    The title is pretty much self explanatory... nothing like some 'ass n' titties'!

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    3.86 / 5.00
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    2,824,079 Views
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    Ages 17+
  • Soft Outer Crust Ep#12
    Soft Outer Crust Ep#12 by daveteatro

    Dave is at his rope's end with Liam and decides to take action. Soft crust style.

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    3.85 / 5.00
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    Movie
    Popularity
    63,025 Views
    Rated
    Everyone
  • Ganguro Girl 1.5
    Ganguro Girl 1.5 by HSC

    Hook up with Ganguro Girls

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    4.01 / 5.00
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    21,282,684 Views
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  • Down Boner!  Down
    Down Boner! Down by Swenson

    It's still summer. Drop by and visit a nude beach and a man with a problem.

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    3.57 / 5.00
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    Movie
    Popularity
    1,970,824 Views
    Rated
    Adults Only
  • Size is Important
    Size is Important by SexyFunny

    Is size important...?

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    2.54 / 5.00
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    2,607,725 Views
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  • Miss.Dynamite I to V
    Miss.Dynamite I to V by Sirkowski

    What's this for???

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    3.47 / 5.00
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    Movie
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    3,618,691 Views
    Rated
    Ages 17+
  • How a Blonde..
    How a Blonde.. by SexyFunny

    How a Blonde..

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    1.43 / 5.00
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    Movie
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    1,615,160 Views
    Rated
    Ages 17+
  • Foamy Fucks Germaine
    Foamy Fucks Germaine by PureCarnage

    Foamy Fucks Germaine

    Score
    3.14 / 5.00
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    Movie
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    4,727,376 Views
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    Adults Only

These flashes might have been hidden away and hard to find now. They might be old but they entertained users back during these times loved these flashes, thought they were entertaining, and were more than just a dirty flash/game that should be shunned since the age limit of the site is 13+

Newgrounds might be changing but they're changing because of how big and popular they have become. Being "family friendly" or at least appeal to kids and without having hentai ads or "porn" on the front page. I understand it comes with the territory of becoming big and in order to become any bigger, they need to clean up their image.

But you can't forsake and clean out your roots. If anything, hentai appearing on the front page for the first time in probably a year is a homage to how Newgrounds used to be.

Just because I'm nostalgic and appreciate seeing something on the front page that isn't cutesy bullshit doesn't make me linear or misunderstanding of Newgrounds need to expand. I just appreciate it and having you immediately down talk it and see it as disgusting, is linear if anything. You act like in order to expand or continue in rising popularity, you have to clean up your image and be able to sell your image to all ages. Not everyone wants to go on Neopets and be told not to watch adult themes or say adult things.

Most of the Teen rated flashes/games on here are borderline adult and generally are for 16+. I don't see you patronizing these for making the front page?

I honestly don't see how you can act like hentai or porn can't have a story line or create a chuckle. I understand story line isn't something common in porn or hentai but in most cases, it's there. You can't critique adult flashes/games just because it contains what it contains. I'm not critiquing flashes/games that are for Everyone/Teen just because it doesn't have a fat cock or tits somewhere in it. Flashes/games are good by how they are, not by what is in it.

I honestly truly hope they keep putting hentai or porn themed flashes/games on the front page. You can't cater to only one age group or become so kid friendly.

Besides, most of the flashes/games the most popular animators make would be taken down or hidden if the site was in your pristine all ages appeal. Egoraptor, MasterAardvark, and Sexual-Lobster to name a few make Teen/semi-adult themed flashes yet they are the most popular, well-known artists on the site and bring alot of new people to the site.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 07:12:12 Reply

Face vaginas, guh.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 20:49:46 Reply

you need to respect people's fetish.

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 20:51:34 Reply

Hurr hurr hurr :3

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 21:40:18 Reply

Nothing on the front page was rated "A" so technically the front page is still clear of porn. No matter how hot a flash is, if it isn't rated "A", then it isn't considered pron by the community...


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-01 22:31:23 Reply

At 7/1/12 04:11 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote:
At 7/1/12 03:40 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote:

Hi, don't really have anything to the contribute to the discussion but Hollowed you sound pretentious as shit and Tarah is right. Censorship tends to never ever be a good thing.... ever (except that one time)


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-02 01:18:31 Reply

what porn i don't see any porn all i see are a few movies like pleasure island 5 which ain't porn at all and few movies and fat badger's fatty spam bs. seriously after the long speech tom made about standing against the corperate scum bags that wanted to silence the artists we know and love then came the update which was a long three days of no newgrounds hell and then the fresh new newgrounds came out all new and shit but there was something different ,Games ,Movies,audio,art,forums,channels,shop. where's the mature section?!!! all the porn is hidden,sealed away by the remodel.sopa/acta have won they have fucking silenced newgrounds and made it more mild.now if you want to find porn on newgrounds you have to travel through the rainforests of spam and shit just to find some remnant of A-rated something and all that's left is mostly shit total shit.all the juicy dating games pbbbttt-turned to crap,sex games-crap,porno animations-gone.but you couldn't truly understand if you think that on the front page is porn.

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-02 06:30:15 Reply

What gets me is that it is about fat girls, back in my day all the hentai submissions tended to feature very thin girls with large breasts. The times be changing.


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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-02 06:32:29 Reply

At 7/2/12 01:18 AM, lithiumsol wrote: all that's left is mostly shit total shit.all the juicy dating games pbbbttt-turned to crap,sex games-crap,porno animations-gone.but you couldn't truly understand if you think that on the front page is porn.

you're telling me

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Response to Porn is on the front page again 2012-07-02 06:45:32 Reply

Lol haha


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