I'm a senior this year, so I need to start thinking about colleges (actually, I should've been thinking about this last year), but all these college search websites are kind of iffy. I want a small, traditional art school in a nice part of the country with a modest 5-15K tuition.
I know a handful of you are in art colleges, so where do you go, and why do you like it?
God help me, I'll probably wait until March next year before I actually get something accomplished
At 6/19/12 10:26 AM, Piggler wrote: I'm a senior this year, so I need to start thinking about colleges (actually, I should've been thinking about this last year), but all these college search websites are kind of iffy. I want a small, traditional art school in a nice part of the country with a modest 5-15K tuition.
I know a handful of you are in art colleges, so where do you go, and why do you like it?
God help me, I'll probably wait until March next year before I actually get something accomplished
In today's job market isn't it a little bit of a risk to take art for collage?
Also I have a philosophy; You cannot teach art, you can only point people in the proper direction to achieve art, however, art teachers are afraid to offend their students and simply avoid guiding their students significantly, this is apparent in education and on this forum, we and they want the best for each other but we don't want emotional outbursts or flamewars, so they/we tell them "It's good but it could be better" or "You should draw more" we give them vague cliche slurs, and we don't specifically tell them what they're doing wrong, education and art simply don't mix, education is structured and is wrapped in a curriculum, art is free form, it is random and is spread out with no barriers, you can't mix them without ruining one of them, and its usually the subject that gets ruined.
At 6/19/12 11:20 AM, M-Maher wrote: I have a philosophy; You cannot teach art,
Right, you cannot teach art, but you can teach technique and method
art teachers are afraid to offend their students
You obviously never met any of my art teachers...
At 6/19/12 11:54 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: > Move to Canada
> Apply to OCAD
He's not kidding, I can second that for you,They cover pretty much everything in understanding Media and film making,
It's helpful if you know anyone or have family in Canada then that's a bonus otherwise your not going to like the tuition fees.
I've known Art focussed universities based in Italy to be extremely helpful too.
Hope this helps.
At 6/19/12 11:20 AM, M-Maher wrote: In today's job market isn't it a little bit of a risk to take art for collage?
Yes it is, but I don't know exactly what I want to do. I guess I'm just naturally gravitating towards something I know I can do :(
At 6/19/12 01:36 PM, Piggler wrote:At 6/19/12 11:20 AM, M-Maher wrote: In today's job market isn't it a little bit of a risk to take art for collage?Yes it is, but I don't know exactly what I want to do. I guess I'm just naturally gravitating towards something I know I can do :(
I applied to art colleges, got into all of them, but were way too expensive. I went to my local university and went into an art major that I wasn't sure about. It gave me a lot of choices so I didn't have to stick with one specific thing, and ended up making game design my main focus. If you don't have a direction yet, it's better to go into some place cheaper and figure it out first. After 4 years, you'll have a degree and a better idea of where to go next. I could either go to an actual art school that teaches specifically what I want, or I can get a job now.
Full Sail and SCAD were one of my favorites 4 years ago, but now they're only overpriced schools that teach me things I can learn on my own.
i agree with the guy who said feel things out first. But i will also add this, if you are not 110% positive about being an art major. Then you should look for another field possibly or atleast consider it. It should be an all around decision and there should be no doubts. Its a very very very competitive field and is also a difficult one to maintain a respectable career in. Not trying to persuade you away from it im just saying. Go in undeclared major for a couple years. Take some art classes, if you like them stick to it. If not, atleast you can pick other classes of things that might be of interest to you and fish you way around different majors.
Also, when you declare no major ask for counseling on this at your university at choice. Then get it throughout up until you make you decision. This is your career your deciding on not your hobby.
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Apply to as many as you want and which ever you would want to go to. Don't worry about price. If you get in you can say no if it costs to much. If they want you bad enough you will get a scholarship.
its kinda tough to find work in art nowadays. also I find some arts schools don't think comic art or cartoons art...which doesn't make sense to me. I suppose it depends on what type of art you wanna do. there are some art school here in canada. institute of art and design and nscad in nova scotia. but nscad doesnt care for cartoon or comic art...I tried :(
At 6/19/12 11:20 AM, M-Maher wrote: Also I have a philosophy; You cannot teach art, you can only point people in the proper direction to achieve art
That's dumb, there are plenty of specific rules and concepts about art that can be taught by teachers.
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At 6/20/12 02:17 AM, Aigis wrote: That's dumb, there are plenty of specific rules and concepts about art that can be taught by teachers.
At 6/20/12 01:20 AM, Clueless-queen wrote: its kinda tough to find work in art nowadays.
That kind of depends on what TYPE of art. Because nearly every company needs good designers, marketing people, and graphic artists. The job market is almost limitless in that regard.
Animators focusing on American style anime, on the other hand, yes. Very tough if not impossible.
Most people don't go to school for that, though.
At 6/20/12 04:19 PM, JKR wrote:At 6/20/12 01:20 AM, Clueless-queen wrote: its kinda tough to find work in art nowadays.That kind of depends on what TYPE of art. Because nearly every company needs good designers, marketing people, and graphic artists. The job market is almost limitless in that regard.
Animators focusing on American style anime, on the other hand, yes. Very tough if not impossible.
Most people don't go to school for that, though.
I visited a Canadian animation studios called helix. Dunno if they are still in business but the studio director said he kinda didn't like the fact that they didn't have much creative freedom. He said a lot of the animators were thinking about trying to get into the comic field since there is more freedom. but yeah working in marketing as an illustrator of designer is a good start but then again, you have to do what client wants and your creative freedom is hindered a bit.
I'd also say you need to be 200% sure you want to do art.
If your arting all day long it might become less fun.
+ You would be competing with the best out of the art industry, and some of these guys are truly genius.
Also i too would like to go to art college in a year.
I was thinking The art center scad or fzd, but mostly because they have the best internet presence and look good.
Do any of you know really good art schools, or the best maybe.
I don't care where it is and money isnt a problem.
I just want them to teach me how to be awesome, digital preferably.
At 6/21/12 04:32 PM, Flowers10 wrote: I'd also say you need to be 200% sure you want to do art.
If your arting all day long it might become less fun.
+ You would be competing with the best out of the art industry, and some of these guys are truly genius.
Also i too would like to go to art college in a year.
I was thinking The art center scad or fzd, but mostly because they have the best internet presence and look good.
Do any of you know really good art schools, or the best maybe.
I don't care where it is and money isnt a problem.
I just want them to teach me how to be awesome, digital preferably.
I too was looking at SCAD, mostly because it's the closest to where I live. Looking into it though, I was sort of put off by the fact that they don't require a portfolio in their admissions process, only if you're applying for a scholarship. I passed on them simply because I didn't like the idea of them taking anyone in who is willing to pay for it, regardless of whether or not applicants are driven artists or just some kids who have nothing to do and money to blow.
You should look at RISD. It's the Harvard of art schools. It's about $40,000 a year, but with your body of work, you should be able to get a killer scholarship. If you live close to where a National Portfolio day is hosted, you should attend. Counselors from a lot of really awesome schools are there giving out critique and judging your work based on their school's criteria. It's an awesome opportunity if you're looking to fine tune your portfolio. It's where I found the school I'll be attending in the fall.
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