At 6/21/12 06:17 PM, Korriken wrote:
its also the kind of stupid thing people like him say because it helps get donations to his "non profits" which pay him handsomely.
Without a doubt. In the UK there are also a number of high-profile people that get paid or increase their fame by talking up racial issues.
How many companies would train a heroin addict to operate a crane or a bulldozer? How many companies would hire a cocaine addict to be a financial consultant?
Well you wouldn't hire an addict for these positions and there's a good chance an addict wouldn't apply, although an occasional user might have a shot. I hear you guys do urine tests tho.
Well, many countries have people that are even more poor than America's poor and they don't have such a high crime rate.
I know there is violent crime in the US to quite a high extent, but I have been to Eastern Europe - perhaps comparitively poor to the poorer areas of the states - and the crime is ridiculous. There would perhaps be a few factors that would go into the high crime rate of the US rather than the crime rate but I don't live there, I've only been there briefly and I don't know what it's all about really.
Yes, statistically poor people commit more crimes, but a lot of it is culture. I could point out several things I've seen that can be attributed to culture
I would think you might be right, if the US crime rate is really so high. In Prague the police seemed lazy and corrupt when we reported a tourist getting robbed around the corner to them so that might indicate why the Czech Republic has fewer crimes than the US.
This is another problem I have with the whole racial identity setup "whites have it better! they get better everything!"
That's not entirely, what I meant - I just meant that people from poorer background and who live in poorer areas are shown to be more likely to commit crime, and black people are more likely to be in these places because their parents and grandparents are likely to have had worse life chances than white people.
It's not true in all circumstances and I'm sure culture has a lot to do with it - like on my shores Indian and Chinese students are well-known to do especially well and statistics have backed this up. And all white people don't have the same background as the median white man, but the median white man is born in a better environment that is more condusive to success than the median black man, and when you're talking about statistical generalisations, this is relevant, even if personal anecdotes do not conform with this. Not all people from poor backgrounds, black or white, are going to fuck about and commit crime.
instead of getting high, smoking, buying expensive clothes, and other wasteful habits that keep you broke, I save my money to slowly get the nice things that I like.
You ever went 4 days with no food? I have. it's not fun. eventually everything begins to look delicious.
No because when I became really broke I would budget Â£5 for a week's food because I would never do that - having to spend money on public transport makes food bills look essential. But I have been broke enough for eating to be an issue. While I was in this situation, I was actively trying to better myself and had put myself in it for delayed gratification, which is a strikingly middle-class, progressive career-climber's trait that I would think is a part of my middle-class heritage. I was in education all day and was getting no assistance by way of grants - everyone else in the class was either already rich or lived off their parents.
It might be worth saying at this point that class is perhaps a bigger issue in the UK than race and I reckon perhaps it is too in the US but they don't realise it. We'll hire a black guy, but he better talk with a 'posh' accent.
if you can afford $5 packs of smokes and $40-$70 articles of clothing, you must not have it THAT bad.
yeh when you're stuck for food these instantly-gratifying goods can seem out-of-reach but with a bit of cash then you're pimping.
you mean these white people? I find a eerie similar subcultural similarity....
Well I would think there are subcultural influences at work but I don't blame Afroman in the slightest, or basically any media. You say it right at the end and the reason I responded so speedily is because of how much I agree with your final premise. But white criminally-cultured people do share a lot of similarities with those of ethnic minorities, but I think social issues are the reason behind this, rather than any racial-specific reasons. As far as the trainers briefly mentioned by the OP- it's like all the fucking white people complaining about immigrants taking their jobs and being racist and shaving their heads and getting into fights - that kind of culture can encourage this kind of dividing contempt for others. But it ain't the black's influence on the media that means culturally-averse blacks and whites love playing the race card.
Heavy metal is mainly listened to by white people
and those people tend to be just as fucked up, just in slightly different ways.
We're all fucked up.
Also I get highbetter hope to god you don't get hurt at work.
The only machinery I use is a computer and I don't get high at work. But it's a good tangenital point that if I got injured driving a forklift (which I would never do), residual cannabis in my bloodstream would impact my chances of getting compensation, but residual alcohol would not.
and I think black people get unfairly targeted because of the laws against cannabisyou mean the same laws that land people of every race in jail when they get caught? right.
As was previously mentioned, black people are more likely to get charged and sentenced and a jail term and record for these crimes than whites. Just like men are more likely to get in trouble for crimes than women. All a load of discriminatory bullshit.
Some people are so absorbed into the rappers fantasy that it's actually kind of frightening to think about. you listen to them talk and you wonder where they learned to speak like that. You later find out they're imitating a rapper.
I love a chap called Necro who is a far more gruesome, mysogynistic, violent and degrading rapper than fucking Chaggy and Afroman. You're on Newgrounds - you must realise the media you consume - for everyone with a sense of empathy - does not influence your chances of committing nasty, violent and criminal acts towards another member of society.
As far as addictive and illegal drugs are concerned, people who get hooked on heroin and crack seem to be the type that would commit suicide if they were not high all the time and are more likely to be born in the aforementioned deprived environments than people who take an opiate once or twice and don't ruin their lives on it.
Also Maury is as fake as Jerry Springer, maybe worse.
But it's great. Also Cheaters is allegedly fake. But the black women on it are always crazy.
on that note, everyone is who they choose to be.
I entirely agree, and there is no excuse for harming another person without a compelling reason. I hope all this shit does not appear like I am condoning criminalityor making excuses for it. As you said and I know, you can be starving and rationing your food and you wouldn't think of stealing from a small business - perhaps cos you were brought up in an environment that told you that if you did that you were a fucking bastard.
In conclusion, my opinions as a British person are shit because class is a bigger issue here than race probably and our racial politics are inherently linked to class. I feel the same may be true in other places, however, it's just we Brits are preoccupied with the subject.