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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 22:38:01 Reply

no you will never get dumb ass edit button you cant be trtusted with the dumb button now cry fool


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 22:48:01 Reply

FAQ:

At 6/15/12 03:06 PM, Klobb17 wrote: Instead of this "points" thing, I say just make a limit to how many edits you can make.

no it will not work. because still people can abuse the button.

Evading bans shouldn't be an issue. Over at GameFAQs.com, mods and admins are able to see both the original post and the edited post regardless of how much it was changed, so if the original post is something warranting a ban, they won't hesitate in dishing one out. Newgrounds mods should have the same ability.

still, it will not work because even mods and admins can abuse the button. also, giving out bans still does not stop trolls (which accounts for approxiatemly 30% of the newgrounds population) from continuing to edit posts for the sake of trolling.

As for trolls changing their posts to something else for the sake of more trolling, we'll at least know which ones to avoid should they do such a thing too frequently.

again, it does not stop them from abusing the button.

Besides, we're not supposed to feed them, anyway.

this is newgrounds. every troll attempt, no matter how pathetic the attempt is, is always successful and 100% of the time trolling attempts result in flame wars. most newgrounds users are immature after all.

please read my first post to the thread on the first page for more information.


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 23:09:22 Reply

At 6/15/12 06:47 PM, CritcalOne wrote: The people screaming abuse are fucking retarded.

We have a link function that can link people to porn/scream sites, acess to put Youtube videos on thread which can be very NSFW, and last but not least, we have the biggest fucking outlet of abuse, the ability to put any kind of image in your post.

Well thats because it's an instant ban if you post pics not related to the topic or if you don't have a point. So thats actually pretty controlled.


Mods could check the original post before the edit to check for rule breaking.

Mods aren't exactly thorough and think about how time consuming that sounds.


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 23:22:26 Reply

At 6/15/12 11:09 PM, II2none wrote:
Mods aren't exactly thorough and think about how time consuming that sounds.

of course. in every other forums that i visit, everyone edits their post at least 5 times and it is a well accepted fact that no amount of moderation can pick out almost all the abusers and kick them out.

what puzzles me is why most forums continue to have the feature even when everyone knows it does not work.


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 23:23:57 Reply

At 6/15/12 10:48 PM, i-am-ghey wrote: no it will not work. because still people can abuse the button.

Then they can be banned by a mod for such abuse. Hell, they can make a new rule for "Using the edit button" if necessary.

even mods and admins can abuse the button

If they do, they shouldn't even have been made into mods to begin with. If a mod is abusing the very site features that they are to uphold, then that is gonna be a problem for the higher ups to deal with.

again, it does not stop them from abusing the button.

Again, a mod can stop them. Works in other forums, it can work here too.

this is newgrounds. every troll attempt, no matter how pathetic the attempt is, is always successful and 100% of the time trolling attempts result in flame wars. most newgrounds users are immature after all.

Not true. And for the ones that are successful, they are soon locked/deleted before they get out of hand.

please read my first post to the thread on the first page for more information.

"At 6/15/12 11:06 AM, i-am-ghey wrote:
abusing the edit button is rarely a serious issue and i suppose people who frequent other sites besides newgrounds already know that.

nothing extra needs to be done if the staff decides to allow people to edit their posts (in an unlikely event). if they are still worried about the problem (without any supporting reasons of course), i believe that enabling moderators to see the previous edits is more than enough to prevent the implausible abuse of the editing feature."

Rather hypocritical of you, claiming that it wouldn't be a serious issue at first, then trying to convince me otherwise right now.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 23:26:23 Reply

actually, it is supposed to be sacrastic. relax!


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-15 23:45:49 Reply

At 6/15/12 07:13 AM, Trambamboline wrote: I don't even get why people WANT an edit button. I guess I can see the merit in fixing spelling errors (if you're anal like me) but aside from that...

Well, what if we post a link but it ends up either being the wrong one or the site 404s?


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-16 00:11:14 Reply

At 6/15/12 09:43 PM, The-Great-One wrote: Nobody says that an Edit Button wouldn't be useful. We all know that it would be, but the majority of the tweens and teens would abuse it and with the General forum's stupidity it would lead to chaos for the forum moderators.

I love how you're not even acknowledging the point system I proposed where only experienced users whom have earned the privilege to use it are the ones who use it and you continue acting like it would be an availability for absolutely everyone.

Sounds to me that you didn't read the opening page at all.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-16 00:54:04 Reply

At 6/16/12 12:11 AM, phsychopath wrote:
I love how you're not even acknowledging the point system I proposed where only experienced users whom have earned the privilege to use it are the ones who use it and you continue acting like it would be an availability for absolutely everyone.

How acan the points be earned in a fair manner? your OP doesn't address that.


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-16 05:59:40 Reply

At 6/16/12 12:54 AM, II2none wrote:
At 6/16/12 12:11 AM, phsychopath wrote:
I love how you're not even acknowledging the point system I proposed where only experienced users whom have earned the privilege to use it are the ones who use it and you continue acting like it would be an availability for absolutely everyone.
How acan the points be earned in a fair manner? your OP doesn't address that.

No one else has suggested any such method either. I presume it would be based on performance of how closely you follow the rules and guidelines in conjunction with your activity. Hell, this could bring an entirely new dynamic to the whistle status as it could also depend on one's ability to report infractions.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-16 07:50:16 Reply

At 6/16/12 12:11 AM, phsychopath wrote: I love how you're not even acknowledging the point system I proposed where only experienced users whom have earned the privilege to use it are the ones who use it and you continue acting like it would be an availability for absolutely everyone.

Sounds to me that you didn't read the opening page at all.

I did, I'm just telling you that the staff won't take it. Would I like to have an Edit Button? Yes. Will it happen? No. Is it even that important in the first place? No.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-16 09:34:42 Reply

The NG BBS isn't going to get an edit button and it doesn't need an edit button.

Another quality thread by physcopath.


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 04:59:13 Reply

At 6/16/12 07:50 AM, The-Great-One wrote:
At 6/16/12 12:11 AM, phsychopath wrote: I love how you're not even acknowledging the point system I proposed where only experienced users whom have earned the privilege to use it are the ones who use it and you continue acting like it would be an availability for absolutely everyone.

Sounds to me that you didn't read the opening page at all.
I did, I'm just telling you that the staff won't take it. Would I like to have an Edit Button? Yes. Will it happen? No. Is it even that important in the first place? No.

We're not here to convince the staff to implement it, we're here to debate logistics of such an implementation under a hypothetical circumstance.

At 6/16/12 09:34 AM, Halberd wrote: The NG BBS isn't going to get an edit button and it doesn't need an edit button.

Another quality thread by physcopath.

I don't understand the intent of this remark, by all means if the thread has more than one page of replies it's by definition a success. Beyond that it's a matter of subjective opinion.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 05:01:12 Reply

At 6/16/12 07:50 AM, The-Great-One wrote:
At 6/16/12 12:11 AM, phsychopath wrote: I love how you're not even acknowledging the point system I proposed where only experienced users whom have earned the privilege to use it are the ones who use it and you continue acting like it would be an availability for absolutely everyone.

Sounds to me that you didn't read the opening page at all.
I did, I'm just telling you that the staff won't take it. Would I like to have an Edit Button? Yes. Will it happen? No. Is it even that important in the first place? No.

Oh and additionally, I was just telling you to acknowledge relevant variables of an argument when making a rebuttal.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 05:11:30 Reply

At 6/17/12 04:59 AM, phsychopath wrote: We're not here to convince the staff to implement it, we're here to debate logistics of such an implementation under a hypothetical circumstance.

Yeah, I bet.

At 6/17/12 05:01 AM, phsychopath wrote: Oh and additionally, I was just telling you to acknowledge relevant variables of an argument when making a rebuttal.

You should also realize that not everybody TL;DR's threads. I have made my peace though, as I'm sure many others have as well. So I will take my leave.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 05:23:38 Reply

At 6/17/12 05:11 AM, The-Great-One wrote:\

You should also realize that not everybody TL;DR's threads. I have made my peace though, as I'm sure many others have as well. So I will take my leave.

TL;DR? Fucking seriously? The thing I was talking about was in the opening post.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 05:31:26 Reply

eh, I don't think it'd be a good idea. The forums are perfectly fine without an edit button.

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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 05:33:31 Reply

At 6/17/12 04:59 AM, phsychopath wrote: we're here to debate logistics of such an implementation under a hypothetical circumstance.

Do you talk to your mother with that mouth?


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Response to Edit button 2012-06-17 06:50:10 Reply

Preview post button > edit post button.


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