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Liven the community 2012-06-09 21:27:19 Reply

So some days the animation forum seems kind of dead, hardly anyone posts in new threads and most new threads are people looking for animators for there new comedy that they have written which is lol so funneh.

Does anyone have any opinions on what could be done to liven the community a bit more?


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-10 08:21:44 Reply

At 6/9/12 09:27 PM, Blounty wrote: So some days the animation forum seems kind of dead, hardly anyone posts in new threads and most new threads are people looking for animators for there new comedy that they have written which is lol so funneh.

Does anyone have any opinions on what could be done to liven the community a bit more?

contests like Nata, pico day, robot day are a neat ideas to get people involved and post up some of their work, even for non contestants to critique and take part too. Other challenges like the 11 second club and the loop activities elsewhere too.

In the art forum having your own sketch thread keeps the place livened up, I saw a few threads here like that but you kind of just end up posting lots of wips and tests and stuff like that which is cool but I guess that's what the wip/showcase thread is for.

Even smaller mini challenges like the COW and CHOW in the art thread get some decent participation, maybe it could translate here with an animation theme per week less than 20 seconds type thing then users vote on their favorite, tho with no real prizes it's hard to get a lot of people motivated to take part.

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-10 18:14:28 Reply

Maybe weekly contests with a small prize. Or maybe the winner of the weekly contest could get featured on the front page.

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-10 18:38:37 Reply

At 6/10/12 06:14 PM, ExtremeFudgeMaster wrote: Maybe weekly contests with a small prize. Or maybe the winner of the weekly contest could get featured on the front page.

Weekly may be too little time as people often have work and there own projects, but monthly could work.

any other ideas?

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-10 19:28:15 Reply

I'm not sure if monthly would be frequent enough to provide a lot more discussion than there is right now. What about bi-weekly?

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 03:06:10 Reply

I'd love to see some more seasoned or established talent/creators get involved. Maybe we could appoint somebody to set up a weekly event where we get a more popular animator to start a thread and people can ask them questions. I think it would be more successful than the typical streaming session or TheInterviewer review, as not all the questions people want are answered. Also this way the thread will be around and the content will be available forever. I for one am always interested in seeing people's processes and hearing their own feedback on a project and this might be a great way for other people to see and feel involved.

Also, all the posts in here are always: "How do I animate?", "What version of flash is best", "what iz best tablit?". Perhaps there should be some general rules against it or general thread for that kind of thing.

We could also start tutorial threads or animate (blank) and post results threads.

Just some thoughts.

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 04:00:31 Reply

Also, all the posts in here are always: "How do I animate?", "What version of flash is best", "what iz best tablit?". Perhaps there should be some general rules against it or general thread for that kind of thing.

I'll do some work on writing a starting post for this today.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 04:32:15 Reply

Didn't this forum used to run weekly/fortnightly animation challenges, such as walking loops? Did they get a decent turn out?

Luis has also suggested linking the animation activities with Creature of the Week contests in the past - say the winning creature concept in one week is the topic for the animation activity in the next.

Maybe you could cut out the middleman, and produce an animated creature/character concept. For example, say the topic for a character concept was "Gunslinger". You could either
- Focus your attention on details, and draw a cowboy resting in an alley, only animating a loop with a pistol being flicked casually in his hand, or
- Focus on dynamics, and create a fast paced scene where he's turning round to race a foe behind him.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 04:39:49 Reply

I could probally start running these, but I have no way of giving prizes. Maybe winning is enough of a prize already.

If I was to do this I would need some help with judging and rule setting, If anyone is interested we could talk via PM and maybe work over the week to do a test run starting friday night?


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 05:02:09 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:39 AM, Blounty wrote: I could probally start running these, but I have no way of giving prizes. Maybe winning is enough of a prize already.

Yeah, you don't need prizes. You're after people whose incentive is to participate, plus these things shouldn't be back-breaking.

If I was to do this I would need some help with judging ...

If you're after community activity, a voting thread would be your best bet, since it gets everyone in the forum involved. Even those who didn't join in.

and rule setting

Rules are best kept simple, so that it's easier on the organiser and the entrants. Stuff like "You have 2 weeks to make it" and "Don't submit old stuff" is enough.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 11:16:56 Reply

At 6/9/12 09:27 PM, Blounty wrote: Does anyone have any opinions on what could be done to liven the community a bit more?

We tried creating an Animation Forum Lounge ...that didn't last long, but that doesn't mean it can't be revived.

Techno also tried making the Looking for Animators Thread! ...didn't work very well. Maybe your attempt will have better luck... but people don't typically look for threads like that, they just make their own.

Weeklies would be fantastic (without prizes). I think a key to making them work (same for the art forum), is starting with instructions/examples/a demo. I don't have the skills to do that, so if someone with actually ability was up for hosting them, that would be great!

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 12:10:07 Reply

Less boards would help a lot! When you spread people out over so many different boards, some of the boards suffer a lot. Of course, that's not really something we can change ourselves, but I think that has a lot to do with it.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 12:47:26 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:32 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Didn't this forum used to run weekly/fortnightly animation challenges, such as walking loops? Did they get a decent turn out?

Luis has also suggested linking the animation activities with Creature of the Week contests in the past - say the winning creature concept in one week is the topic for the animation activity in the next.

Maybe you could cut out the middleman, and produce an animated creature/character concept. For example, say the topic for a character concept was "Gunslinger". You could either
- Focus your attention on details, and draw a cowboy resting in an alley, only animating a loop with a pistol being flicked casually in his hand, or
- Focus on dynamics, and create a fast paced scene where he's turning round to race a foe behind him.

I really like this idea, especially if it were implemented on a weekly or biweekly basis. I do agree that it would make sense to do it more frequently like that rather than once per month.

We could set something up like a sort of 'Miniature NATA' per se, where every two weeks, everyone is given a theme and they must create something that is between 10 - 30 seconds long. Perhaps at some point if possible, we could find a way to give out small prizes (money, store credit, small merchandise). Incentive definitely helps get people to participate, as does the 'contest' aspect of it, though really it would probably be more of a practice or show and tell type thing.

While in theory the animation lounge thread seems like a good idea, I feel that for a medium like animation, it kind of flounders. The animation practice thread has conversely had a lot of activity over time, though, so it is clear that everyone likes showing others their practice work and sharing their tips and ideas.

I think competitions like NATA definitely draw this forum a lot of attention, so rather that have one competition that draws a lot of attention once a year, having an ongoing competition or smaller ones sprinkled in throughout the whole year would keep this forum fairly active.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 13:43:29 Reply

Well in the audio nac contests they offer reviews from all judges as a prize and also 1st, 2nd and 3rd place sigs for the forums. Maybe Tom could even be persuaded to give the winners some store credit. If the audio forum can do it I can't see why this board can't

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 15:03:40 Reply

I've been wanting to see more regular animation challenges going on in this forum so I'd happily hook up some store credit prizes for those! I would also love to see some AMAs with popular artists, I need to just do outreach on that front.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 16:05:32 Reply

At 6/11/12 11:16 AM, ReNaeNae wrote:
We tried creating an Animation Forum Lounge ...that didn't last long, but that doesn't mean it can't be revived.

I'll see what I can do about that.

Techno also tried making the Looking for Animators Thread! ...didn't work very well. Maybe your attempt will have better luck... but people don't typically look for threads like that, they just make their own.

I had no Idea this had been done before, I'll see if I can try to get people to post more looking4's in the right thread.

Weeklies would be fantastic (without prizes). I think a key to making them work (same for the art forum), is starting with instructions/examples/a demo. I don't have the skills to do that, so if someone with actually ability was up for hosting them, that would be great!

I'm speaking to Luis on this front I'll try and get something sorted out, I don't mind hosting things if it makes the community better.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 16:08:33 Reply

At 6/11/12 03:03 PM, TomFulp wrote: I would also love to see some AMAs with popular artists, I need to just do outreach on that front.

What's an AMA?

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 16:11:06 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:08 PM, ExtremeFudgeMaster wrote:
At 6/11/12 03:03 PM, TomFulp wrote: I would also love to see some AMAs with popular artists, I need to just do outreach on that front.
What's an AMA?

It's an ask me anything, otherwise known as Q and A session.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 16:11:32 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:08 PM, ExtremeFudgeMaster wrote:
At 6/11/12 03:03 PM, TomFulp wrote: I would also love to see some AMAs with popular artists, I need to just do outreach on that front.
What's an AMA?

Ask Me Anything - a popular format on Reddit. So if the thread was an Adam Phillips AMA, people would post questions and Adam would answer as many as possible.


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 16:28:38 Reply

I'm liking all of these ideas. Perhaps we should designate some people to organize some of these?


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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 16:53:13 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:28 PM, Emrox wrote: I'm liking all of these ideas. Perhaps we should designate some people to organize some of these?

Well, Blounty said he's working on the weekly things, and AMA's would be done by each person individually, so... what else needs designating?

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 17:01:42 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:53 PM, ReNaeNae wrote: Well, Blounty said he's working on the weekly things, and AMA's would be done by each person individually, so... what else needs designating?

Hehe, whoops, I guess I missed that-

At 6/11/12 04:05 PM, Blounty wrote: I'll try and get something sorted out, I don't mind hosting things if it makes the community better.

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-11 17:06:31 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:53 PM, ReNaeNae wrote: Well, Blounty said he's working on the weekly things, and AMA's would be done by each person individually, so... what else needs designating?

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-12 22:46:09 Reply

At 6/11/12 04:53 PM, ReNaeNae wrote:
At 6/11/12 04:28 PM, Emrox wrote: I'm liking all of these ideas. Perhaps we should designate some people to organize some of these?
Well, Blounty said he's working on the weekly things, and AMA's would be done by each person individually, so... what else needs designating?

It's all exciting to see if these get started, would definitely bring out some lurkers on the thread.

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-13 16:04:07 Reply

I agree with having contests. I have one suggestion: the winner from each previous contest picks the topic for the next contest. I also kind of like the idea of having judges, simply because communities are often non-objective/unfair. Maybe we could have different winners like "judge's pick" and "community's pick."

and no, we don't need real prizes; anyone worth her/his salt knows that winning contests means publicity which means more fans, and honestly, who's really here for anything but honer?

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Response to Liven the community 2012-06-13 16:50:32 Reply

and honestly, who's really here for anything but honer?

I sometimes come here for porn.


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