Pyrince Art

[pyrince]

Just got a new USB drawing pad for my computer, so this is the very first time i ever drawn anything on a computer, so what do you think? Modern Reaper I am new so keep that in mind but ant help on what i could of done to be better or change please let me know :D

[pyrince]

At 6/9/12 12:09 AM, pyrince wrote: Just got a new USB drawing pad for my computer, so this is the very first time i ever drawn anything on a computer, so what do you think? Modern Reaper I am new so keep that in mind but i want help on what i could of done to be better or change please let me know :D

sry typo :D

[pyrince]

Just a angel i drew at 3 in the morning before bed, i admit i was tired but i don't think i could of done much better anyways, i was trying to practice (faces,blood,more shadows XD,women,hands) i think i AM better than before, but i think i still suck XD plz rate and comment, constructive criticism welcomed :D AOD 1

[NiteCrow]

At 6/9/12 05:12 AM, pyrince wrote: Just a angel i drew at 3 in the morning before bed, i admit i was tired but i don't think i could of done much better anyways, i was trying to practice (faces,blood,more shadows XD,women,hands) i think i AM better than before, but i think i still suck XD plz rate and comment, constructive criticism welcomed :D AOD 1

Right, first of, could you post your pictures in the forum, please? It would save some time for us, and some people just don't check it out if you don't post the thing in here.

Now, for critique.
You have to work on anatomy and proportions. Alot. The body compared to the head is huge and too long, the legs look even bigger.The whole piece overall is muddy, and in some places, it isn't even finished. The halo caught my attention, it doesn't look like one, just some barb wire made into a circle. Wings need more refining, as right now they are flat and don't even gave any addition colors, just black. You blood is really light, should be a bit darker, and it really doesn't look like a fluid but more of like paint. And lastly, what is the black smeared thing in both sides of his/her body? Also, the overall piece looks really flat, because there is no shading. So i'd work on that first. Just draw something basic and shade it properly. An example from life is a perfect way to do this. Look how light affect the shading of the item, and try to remember it. There are a lot of great tutorials around newgrounds and the web, but i'm not able to provide the links to them, sorry bout that

[TurkeyOnAStick]

At 6/9/12 05:53 AM, NiteCrow wrote: Right, first of, could you post your pictures in the forum, please? It would save some time for us, and some people just don't check it out if you don't post the thing in here.

^ This. I didn't mention this in your previous thread, but art threads are SO MUCH BETTER if the art is visbile, rather than a link.
Also one of the art forum rules (well, the only one which isn't out-of-date) (... almost) is:
"Post your art IN THE FORUM, do not simply link to another site for people to view your art. You are welcome to link to another site to view a hi-res version of your picture, but please link to it with a smaller version of the image that fits within our guidelines."

[pyrince]

Thanks for all the info, and help. I will remember to post the pictures on the forum and i will work on my shading and proportions! I no i suck right now, and honestly debating to even keep trying. Also, NiteCrow, what did you think of the reaper picture????

[Lintire]

At 6/9/12 03:51 PM, pyrince wrote: Also, NiteCrow, what did you think of the reaper picture????

I'm going to assume you were talking to me. That's what everyone should be doing.

Thing is, the idea wasn't all that bad. Some people manage to do nearly nothing but grim reapers and skellingtons and whatnot. Execution was pretty terrible though.

It's actually a challenge for me to articulate everything that's wrong with this picture because of the sheer amount of them. Here are a few tips, though:

- Don't shade for shading's sake. Light is there to indicate volume and mass, not there to simply add noise to a picture.

- Same thing with the folds - clothing folds and stretches in very particular patterns, and try to detail a picture for the sake of it (noise) is going to go nowhere fast.

- Draw people. Like, just learn to draw them. Then draw them in poses and whatnot. That order. I can't tell wether or not the bugger is standing at attention or slouching like a teen.

Here's the part where you, the little orphaned boy on the side of the road, glances up at my mighty figure and pleads "But Lintire, i am but a mortal!! Please tell me where and how I can get better??? XD XD ROFL".

Turns out that I'm fucking awesome, so here's how:

lovingthedark's basic art tips
Tutorial compilation 1
Tutorial compilation 2

Now you're going to want to do one thing: draw from life. It will help you in ways that you would not have imagined. Your drawing quality will increase exponentially. Your dick will gain inches. Several small communities in Africa will start worshipping you.

I mean just grabbing some random shit, piling it on a desk and drawing what you see. Then once youve done that for a bit, draw faces and bodies and tits.

Course not all of us are so lucky as to have a harem on hand with all the faces and tits that you could possibly need to draw. In that case, you use photos (but only AFTER YOU'VE LEARNED HOW TO DRAW WHAT YOU SEE, else it's just tracing). I've got some dainty freshly squeezed sources for you.

Artsy Poses
The Drawing Script

Now go. Improve. Then strike back with the force of a million suns in your improvement.

Here I sketched the reaper guy using a few of my pointers. Took liberties which the hood.

[pyrince]

Thanks lintire, that's all awesome and i will remember what you said about shading just to shade, but i find it funny at the smallest things, even though your picture is awesome the lines on the pants are inverted XD

[pyrince]

Well here is another crappy drawing of mine XD i am still learning but i think i got a tiny, ditsy bit better :S i think? This is to go to the picture :D

[Flowers10]

At 6/10/12 05:32 AM, pyrince wrote: Well here is another crappy drawing of mine XD i am still learning but i think i got a tiny, ditsy bit better :S i think? This is to go to the picture :D

Looks better yes, do one of the tutorials Lintire posted and progress will be a sure thing.

[pyrince]

At 6/10/12 01:36 PM, Flowers10 wrote:

At 6/10/12 05:32 AM, pyrince wrote: Well here is another crappy drawing of mine XD i am still learning but i think i got a tiny, ditsy bit better :S i think? This is to go to the picture :D

Looks better yes, do one of the tutorials Lintire posted and progress will be a sure thing.

I'm actually debating to even keep drawing, someone said a lot of hurtful things not to long ago and i just don't care to hear it!

[EnactJudo]

poor baby

[pyrince]

At 6/10/12 04:26 PM, EnactJudo wrote: poor baby

Point proven, immature, misguided, and simple minded responses and criticism with no intellectual value of any level! and i was not complaining i just said i may stop doing this, and i decided not to quit.

[pyrince]

A little doodle i made in about a hour that is just CUTE AS HELL!!!!!!!! 404 ERROR oh and also i still need to watch those tutorials, sorry i have not had the attention span to do it yet D:

[pyrince]

Anyone have a idea for a drawing?

[pyrince]

I was hoping for a idea by tonight, it's 1:30 now, in the morning D:

[bigjonny13]

At 6/12/12 03:36 AM, pyrince wrote: I was hoping for a idea by tonight, it's 1:30 now, in the morning D:

Here's an idea.
Stop asking for ideas, and check out and follow those tutorials.
You say you don't have the attention span to watch them, yet you somehow how the attention span to lurk the forum for hours waiting for someone to tell you what to draw.

[pyrince]

At 6/12/12 10:48 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 6/12/12 03:36 AM, pyrince wrote: I was hoping for a idea by tonight, it's 1:30 now, in the morning D:

Here's an idea.
Stop asking for ideas, and check out and follow those tutorials.
You say you don't have the attention span to watch them, yet you somehow how the attention span to lurk the forum for hours waiting for someone to tell you what to draw.

I didn't sit here refreshing the page, i just came back to it later. I am just drawing before bed to help calm me down to go to sleep, and FYI i did watch some of the tutorials, so thanks -.-

[bigjonny13]

At 6/12/12 03:15 PM, pyrince wrote: I didn't sit here refreshing the page, i just came back to it later. I am just drawing before bed to help calm me down to go to sleep, and FYI i did watch some of the tutorials, so thanks -.-

You watched some tutorials?
Then show us what you learned.

[pyrince]

At 6/12/12 03:37 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:

At 6/12/12 03:15 PM, pyrince wrote: I didn't sit here refreshing the page, i just came back to it later. I am just drawing before bed to help calm me down to go to sleep, and FYI i did watch some of the tutorials, so thanks -.-

You watched some tutorials?
Then show us what you learned.

I will watch them a little more extensively before i would say i am done with them, but that being said i also have very bad learning skills so i don't expect much of a difference, although i do think i will draw a light source for my next pic to make it a little bit easier to make shadowing look more real. Other than that any tips you think may not be covered?

[pyrince]

Well like i said, I've read the tutorials more exstensivly and tonight will put some basic shape with basic shadowing but i "think" i found a way to improve my shadowing :( i hope!

[Larwick]

At 6/10/12 02:29 PM, pyrince wrote: I'm actually debating to even keep drawing, someone said a lot of hurtful things not to long ago and i just don't care to hear it!

You must learn not to be afraid of critique. Listening to people's opinions on your work is an extremely important way to improve. Even if it seems overly harsh, take what you can from it. How can you expect to improve if you don't care to hear any negative comments at all? Getting some thick skin now will help a lot down the line.

As many have mentioned you need to focus on anatomy and lighting. I would strongly suggest doing some life-drawing with pencil - be it people or random objects in your house. Drawing a fruit bowl (with fruit in it) can help a lot with understanding lighting and shade. Don't be afraid to redraw again and again. You're only just starting, and you need to put in a lot of work if you want to be a talented artist. Good luck.

[pyrince]

At 6/13/12 01:35 PM, Larwick wrote:

At 6/10/12 02:29 PM, pyrince wrote: I'm actually debating to even keep drawing, someone said a lot of hurtful things not to long ago and i just don't care to hear it!

in and again. You're only just starting, and you need to put in a lot of work if you want to be a talented artist. Good luck.

OMG LARWICK! ^^ iv'e seen allot of your work and i love it <3, Honestly i have been taking it better, i talked to my friend and i calmed down allot from what i hear, and as for practicing i was just going to try just basic shapes first to understand how shading is effected in the most basic forms, does that sound like a good idea?

[PMMurphy]

Someone once asked me who i was drawing for. Myself, or others. So i ask you, what is your art for? You, or us? Are you trying to become a great artist because you want us to approve of it?

These are questions you should ask yourself, and reflect upon. Make a decision and then respond to it. Your reason is neither good nor bad. Its your own reason and your own fuel for art. But think carefully. Then when you come to your conclusion let our hurtful words or ways we critique your art effect and grow you to achieve those particular goals.

People say hurtful things. I've been told my art is trash and that anyone with any bit of talent would be able to see it. That is not constructive at all, its a criticism though. That was also a major factor in me not purseing art as a career but instead i chose computer science.

That is also a high driving force in my want to become a good artist. I have cracked down on all the problems with my work and begin developing better habits and ways of looking at art and i have even matured. There will be lots of people who sit down and say WOW THIS IS GREAT. GOOD JOB. KEEP IT UP. YEA IM GLAD YOU SHOWED THIS. But very few who actually say that your work is terrible. Those few and their commets will either make or break your drive as an artist and it is those things that you need to learn to live with.

Not everyone is going to enjoy your art and your not always going to get responses to your posts and feedback from people. I've had threads or artwork that i spent weeks on 6 - 7 hours a day on my art. just to get a few comments saying "Hey this is good". When i was looking for some constructive feedback. (on a website i use to get lots) So appreciate the fact people take time to look at your art. Make a comment based on your art. Then they take time to get you tips and tutorials to aid your art. THATS ALOT!!!!! Appreciate it. It wont always be there.

[pyrince]

Seriously guys i am fine and i am sorry for the negative way i took mostly honest criticism, there was just a few people that said things that was off the wall and i was a idiot to think to much on it, like my friend said this is the internet and there will always be negative things and i am going to take to honest constructive criticism allot better. After looking at my works it is PAINFULLY obvious what need improved and i hope to take care of it soon. That aside i am drawing for me, i don't wanna become a artist that's famous or even professional, that's not to say i would ever stop improving, i just wanna get good enough i feel a descent accomplishment and can get my idea's out there in a vivid manor so other people can see what's in my head, as for my shadowing practice and anatomy research things have been hectic and i have been putting them off. By far not a good work ethic but starting today i hope to not only get some improvements up but to show what i learned, they will be basic things, but like people said, that's were i should start. Thanks to everyone who has tried helping me and i only hope the time you took will not be wasted :D

[pyrince]

Well here is one of my practice sketches for shading, just some geometric shapes and a face with a crappy body. The whole point of this practice was SOLELY focused on shading so feedback would be nice! :D

[Flowers10]

At 6/18/12 05:50 AM, pyrince wrote: Well here is one of my practice sketches for shading, just some geometric shapes and a face with a crappy body. The whole point of this practice was SOLELY focused on shading so feedback would be nice! :D

You cant really practice the shadows of shapes if you dont know perspective.
Anyway, this is how i think they should be shaded, not sure though my shadows aren't 100% accurate either.

[Generations1st]

At 6/9/12 12:09 AM, pyrince wrote: Just got a new USB drawing pad for my computer, so this is the very first time i ever drawn anything on a computer, so what do you think? Modern Reaper I am new so keep that in mind but ant help on what i could of done to be better or change please let me know :D

I like reapers, but a modern reaper would just give an image a rough street gangster look. Like those in the PS3's infamous.
It's always been robes, like a symbolic figure.
A good suggestion would be to make it black and grey theme.
And trust me i know how hard it is to draw on Computer from scratch but you get use to it alot better with a wacom.
It's ironic because i wouldn't say a typical reaper is all about robes, you can bend the rules, you just need to stick with the theme and style..

[pyrince]

At 6/18/12 06:34 AM, Flowers10 wrote:

You cant really practice the shadows of shapes if you dont know perspective.
Anyway, this is how i think they should be shaded, not sure though my shadows aren't 100% accurate either.

Honestly i was thinking of the shine of the direct reflection to, also I honestly could not think of the shadows :P

[pyrince]

At 6/18/12 06:34 AM, Flowers10 wrote: You cant really practice the shadows of shapes if you dont know perspective.
Anyway, this is how i think they should be shaded, not sure though my shadows aren't 100% accurate either.

I almost forgot lol awesome sun BTW XD