Is Killing Subjective?

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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:00 PM Reply

Even I don't use THAT many capitalized words.


Even the most righteous, logically sound individuals are subject to poor reasoning skills and deluded mindsets.

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I seriously think that people that have committed a murder purposely should be put to sleep. Not electrocuted. Not sent to jail. Put to sleep. What are your thoughts on this?

Put to sleep? How long are they going to sleep? When are they going to wake up? Which sleeping pills are we going to give them?

Hmm, this is the first interesting thought you have ever given to me in this forum.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:18 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 07:46 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 5/20/12 07:44 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
Why is the asshole always in charge, mhmm...? Why are those who are able to critically assess themselves always silenced by the half-dead, ignorant mass that likes to suck on society's utters.
says the one with the popular opinion.

This isn't about POPULAR opinion. In no way does my IDEOLOGY coerses with others' ideologies. KILLING is UTTERLY pointless. You are a hollow monster. There is NO justification.

and thinks it is absolute even after admitting it is an opinion

It is not AN opinion. Life DEFINES itself. You are taking away LIFE. You are not the JUDGE. Life came FIRST. Your actions are played out through your SICK POV of killing.

were you kicked out of your debate team in HS after you flunked english and then psychology simultaneously?

As crazy as you pretend to be; you'd be kicked out of asylums. :D You still are just another teenager hyped up on teenage-angst and lies to excuse your bullshit.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:24 PM Reply

god you are such a child


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:27 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:02 PM, 4761 wrote:
I seriously think that people that have committed a murder purposely should be put to sleep. Not electrocuted. Not sent to jail. Put to sleep. What are your thoughts on this?
Put to sleep? How long are they going to sleep? When are they going to wake up? Which sleeping pills are we going to give them?

Put to sleep like a sick dog. No cruel display of punishment like electrocution. A simple medicine that puts them to sleep IN PEACE.

Hmm, this is the first interesting thought you have ever given to me in this forum.

I tend to do that for every one in due time.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:32 PM Reply

Most of the confusion might be because you are classifying killing and murder as one and the same.

Replace killing with murder and your arguments will be more valid.

Be more clear because those two words hold quite different meanings.

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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:32 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:22 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 5/20/12 08:18 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
This isn't about POPULAR opinion. In no way does my IDEOLOGY coerses with others' ideologies.
yes because everyone thinks killing is A-ok

This is NOT a moral game of 'is killing wrong, right, or mutually exclusive.' tis is LIFE. There is absolutely no justification in killing. There is absolutely no justification is selfishness. There is absolutely no justification in sacrificing for comfort! You only justify it because you are a self-centered BRAT.

retard

Because making sense is being retarded - right?

It is not AN opinion.
retard

Because preserving life from idiots like you makes me a retard - huh?

As crazy as you pretend to be; you'd be kicked out of asylums.
what are you fucking rambling on about now? our opinions differ so you think I'm crazy? what a close minded look on life. YOU are actually just like everyone else, not the people who disagree with you

I think you are crazy because of HOW you attempt to JUSTIFY your retarded opinion. You are far worse than any close-minded person. You think taking another's life is JUSTIFIABLE. THROUGH YOUR SELFISHNESS and NARROW-HEADED MORALS that are IMMORAL. You are just a deluded bitch.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:37 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:27 PM, Insanctuary wrote: Put to sleep like a sick dog. No cruel display of punishment like electrocution. A simple medicine that puts them to sleep IN PEACE.

The electric chair isn't in use anymore. Lethal injection essentially puts a man to sleep in peace, or as close as we can get it now.

If you support that then you support killing. It's justified because the person that's being killed was a murderer.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:44 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:35 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote: sorry I missed some

Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (you got very mad when I downvoted your audio and started to insult me)

Idiot. Plenty of people hate faggots that 0 bomb 'just because' - or in your case - ''i am evil.''

Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)

I detest those because the mass is fucking ignorant! INCLUDING you.

Pretending to be more important than they really are(obvious)

I never play pretend in a world that is VERY serious - unlike the previously mentioned IGNORANT mass.

Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements

I do NOT brag. I share my experiences. Not my FAULT that my experiences are better than yours, child.

Claiming to be an "expert" at many things

I'm an expert at LIFE. I am a jack of all trades 2.0. Not bad or incredible at anything.

Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people(again you think your opinions are absolute)

This is an ABSOLUTE veneer. What a fictitious statement. Back it up - NOW.

Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.(you have done this to me by saying I am selfish and a judge but you are in fact the only one judging people, I have not killed in my lifetime)

Sounds like religious people or people who think that killing can be justified based off of their SELFISH reasons. Not me - fuck off.

Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves

Sounds like you are describing yourself! Way to go! You can't not simply accept how fucked up your POV is so you turn to accusations and ad hominems. You block me and run away from the truth. That the consenquences NEVER lie. That selfishness NEVER validates anything. That killing; i.e murder; does NOT constitute any benefits! Killing is murder. Go ahead and try to tell me otherwise. When you PUSH the first domino - it is MURDER. If you are defending your life - it is NOT murder. It is SELF-DEFENCE.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:49 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:37 PM, bgraybr wrote:

If you support that then you support killing. It's justified because the person that's being killed was a murderer.

There is a difference between your context of killing and Anon's type. Anon is using killing as a justification for EVEN innocent by-standers. The role of killing is the antithesis of each other. Your context of killing has to do with the cliche good guys Vs. bad guy. Anon is saying that nobody is a good guy or bad guy and killing can be justified. Meaning that a BAD guy can kill a GOOD guy in layman's terms.

I already said that we should put the threatening people to sleep. They are an endangerment to anyone's potential life. They can not function properly. When a fruit is not fed its nutrients it spoils. You can not UNSPOIL a fruit.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:51 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:44 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (you got very mad when I downvoted your audio and started to insult me)
Idiot. Plenty of people hate faggots that 0 bomb 'just because' - or in your case - ''i am evil.''

You overreacted just a bit.

Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
I detest those because the mass is fucking ignorant! INCLUDING you.

Everyone else is crazy, not me!

Pretending to be more important than they really are(obvious)
I never play pretend in a world that is VERY serious - unlike the previously mentioned IGNORANT mass.

You're just above all of the masses. Above the system.

Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
I do NOT brag. I share my experiences. Not my FAULT that my experiences are better than yours, child.

It's not my fault that I was born a genius with a godlike body.

Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
I'm an expert at LIFE.

Lol wow. You essentially repeated what he said.

Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people(again you think your opinions are absolute)
This is an ABSOLUTE veneer. What a fictitious statement. Back it up - NOW.

Your arguments speak for themselves. This has already been pointed out to you dozens of times.

Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.(you have done this to me by saying I am selfish and a judge but you are in fact the only one judging people, I have not killed in my lifetime)
Sounds like religious people or people who think that killing can be justified based off of their SELFISH reasons. Not me - fuck off.

You just projected the blame onto religious people instead of refuting his accusation. Great job Mr. Narcissy McNarcissist.

:Sounds like you are describing yourself! Way to go! You can't not simply accept how fucked up your POV is so you turn to accusations and ad hominems. You block me and run away from the truth. That the consenquences NEVER lie. That selfishness NEVER validates anything. That killing; i.e murder; does NOT constitute any benefits! Killing is murder. Go ahead and try to tell me otherwise. When you PUSH the first domino - it is MURDER. If you are defending your life - it is NOT murder. It is SELF-DEFENCE.

Holy shit he's like the textbook definition. Like so fucked up that it's impossible for him to see what a huge narcissist he is. IMPOSSIBLE.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 08:52 PM Reply

So what you are describing is murder. In that case then I agree. Murder cannot be justified which is why it is against the law universally from what I understand.

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At 5/20/12 08:49 PM, Insanctuary wrote: There is a difference between your context of killing and Anon's type. Anon is using killing as a justification for EVEN innocent by-standers. The role of killing is the antithesis of each other. Your context of killing has to do with the cliche good guys Vs. bad guy. Anon is saying that nobody is a good guy or bad guy and killing can be justified. Meaning that a BAD guy can kill a GOOD guy in layman's terms.

Well first of all good and bad are subjective.

Some ultra-nationalist types would kill someone just for being born in the wrong country. Do I agree with it? No.

But it's certainly justified in their eyes, in their morals. It's something that's shaped by their entire world view, in which they are the good guys and the "innocent bystanders" are evil or at the very least propagators of an evil system.

I already said that we should put the threatening people to sleep. They are an endangerment to anyone's potential life. They can not function properly. When a fruit is not fed its nutrients it spoils. You can not UNSPOIL a fruit.

Well that's your opinion. You're being awful judgmental of those spoiled fruits.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 09:04 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 08:51 PM, bgraybr wrote:
At 5/20/12 08:44 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (you got very mad when I downvoted your audio and started to insult me)
Idiot. Plenty of people hate faggots that 0 bomb 'just because' - or in your case - ''i am evil.''
You overreacted just a bit.

The corruption of our world begs to differ.

Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
I detest those because the mass is fucking ignorant! INCLUDING you.
Everyone else is crazy, not me!

The MASS is not EVERYONE - but MOSTLY everyone.

Pretending to be more important than they really are(obvious)
I never play pretend in a world that is VERY serious - unlike the previously mentioned IGNORANT mass.
You're just above all of the masses. Above the system.

Yea, because sucking on the teats of reality's corruption; pretending to be a judge; masturbating to all of the materials of the world while ignoring the fundamental essence of life all together; and - oh yeah - making up excuses to validate my way of living; pretending to be something I am not and overall living as some fucked up experiment that really has no core personality or character. Thank you for making my point even further. I do not distract myself. I do not hide. I do not second-guess. I do not PRETEND. I do not EXCUSE. I will rip the horns out of the beasts' head.

Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
I do NOT brag. I share my experiences. Not my FAULT that my experiences are better than yours, child.
It's not my fault that I was born a genius with a godlike body.

Someone can't take it when someone knows life better than they do!

Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
I'm an expert at LIFE.
Lol wow. You essentially repeated what he said.

I am an expert; everything I say and do only reflects off of that much.

Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people(again you think your opinions are absolute)
This is an ABSOLUTE veneer. What a fictitious statement. Back it up - NOW.
Your arguments speak for themselves. This has already been pointed out to you dozens of times.

Your way of taking everything I say the wrong way speaks for itself that what you heard in my words were LIES like everythign else in your life.

Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.(you have done this to me by saying I am selfish and a judge but you are in fact the only one judging people, I have not killed in my lifetime)
Sounds like religious people or people who think that killing can be justified based off of their SELFISH reasons. Not me - fuck off.
You just projected the blame onto religious people instead of refuting his accusation. Great job Mr. Narcissy McNarcissist.

What? They always want perfection . why else do they hide away from corruption and chaos? They are like flower children in suits. ''Save the world!'' ''Peace and love!'' I'm just going to sit here on my knees while I expect you to do one of the GREATEST responsibilities in the world instead of standing up and DOING IT WITH MY OWN HANDS. They want perfection but they are too fucking weak to fight for it without using guns and other childish procedures. WE HAVE A VOICe. We should USE it. PROPERLY!

Sounds like you are describing yourself! Way to go! You can't not simply accept how fucked up your POV is so you turn to accusations and ad hominems. You block me and run away from the truth. That the consenquences NEVER lie. That selfishness NEVER validates anything. That killing; i.e murder; does NOT constitute any benefits! Killing is murder. Go ahead and try to tell me otherwise. When you PUSH the first domino - it is MURDER. If you are defending your life - it is NOT murder. It is SELF-DEFENCE.
Holy shit he's like the textbook definition. Like so fucked up that it's impossible for him to see what a huge narcissist he is. IMPOSSIBLE.

Holy shit. You are just seeing what you WANT to see. Just like your pseudo homosexuality. Just like Anon's psychopathy. Just like Christian's God. Just like superstitious people and ghosts and aliens. You only CONVINCE yourself a FACADE. While I'm over here uncovering all of the fundamental truth that nobody can deny.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 09:08 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 09:04 PM, Insanctuary wrote: What? They always want perfection . why else do they hide away from corruption and chaos? They are like flower children in suits. ''Save the world!'' ''Peace and love!'' I'm just going to sit here on my knees while I expect you to do one of the GREATEST responsibilities in the world instead of standing up and DOING IT WITH MY OWN HANDS. They want perfection but they are too fucking weak to fight for it without using guns and other childish procedures. WE HAVE A VOICe. We should USE it. PROPERLY!

He wasn't talking about religious people though. He was talking about you. Instead of addressing his question, you started attacking religious people. Very off topic.


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At 5/20/12 08:57 PM, bgraybr wrote:
At 5/20/12 08:49 PM, Insanctuary wrote: There is a difference between your context of killing and Anon's type. Anon is using killing as a justification for EVEN innocent by-standers. The role of killing is the antithesis of each other. Your context of killing has to do with the cliche good guys Vs. bad guy. Anon is saying that nobody is a good guy or bad guy and killing can be justified. Meaning that a BAD guy can kill a GOOD guy in layman's terms.
Well first of all good and bad are subjective.

EVERYTHING WE DO OR SAY IS SUBJECTIVE. The thing is; I speak for the WORLD. I speak for LIFE. NOT MYSELF. THAT is what makes what I do and say OBJECTIVE.

Some ultra-nationalist types would kill someone just for being born in the wrong country. Do I agree with it? No.

This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing. This is LIFE for fucking sake! This isn't some 50/50 game! These are LIVEE we are JUDGING the fate of!

But it's certainly justified in their eyes, in their morals. It's something that's shaped by their entire world view, in which they are the good guys and the "innocent bystanders" are evil or at the very least propagators of an evil system.

NOTHING is justified. Interpretation is NEVER objective! If they can not see through the eyes of the world; then they can not JUDGE. The world SPEAKs; if you just LISTEN. It doesn't need a mouth; it has a LANGUAGE.

I already said that we should put the threatening people to sleep. They are an endangerment to anyone's potential life. They can not function properly. When a fruit is not fed its nutrients it spoils. You can not UNSPOIL a fruit.
Well that's your opinion. You're being awful judgmental of those spoiled fruits.

No. It is NOT an opinion. They are not beneficial. People who are threats to our lives should be put to sleep just like any other animal that has gone mad like those pitbulls that were put to sleep. WHY would you EVER keep them alive somewhere locked up? That is THE CRUELEST PUNISHMENT. Putting them to sleep is the ONLY WAY.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 09:27 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 09:08 PM, bgraybr wrote:
At 5/20/12 09:04 PM, Insanctuary wrote: What? They always want perfection . why else do they hide away from corruption and chaos? They are like flower children in suits. ''Save the world!'' ''Peace and love!'' I'm just going to sit here on my knees while I expect you to do one of the GREATEST responsibilities in the world instead of standing up and DOING IT WITH MY OWN HANDS. They want perfection but they are too fucking weak to fight for it without using guns and other childish procedures. WE HAVE A VOICe. We should USE it. PROPERLY!
He wasn't talking about religious people though. He was talking about you. Instead of addressing his question, you started attacking religious people. Very off topic.

You mean the accusation of me? Of course. Except - the symptoms of narcissism only reminded me of the real narcists in the world. You'd think that loving a God would eliminate narcissism, but it doesn't, them saying they love God is the compensation for them saying they love themselves. They are in denial of their god shaped ego. So it wasn't as irrelevant as you make it out to be.


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At 5/20/12 09:27 PM, Insanctuary wrote: So it wasn't as irrelevant as you make it out to be.

Yes it is. Attacking others doesn't defend your faults.


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At 5/20/12 09:30 PM, bgraybr wrote:
At 5/20/12 09:27 PM, Insanctuary wrote: So it wasn't as irrelevant as you make it out to be.
Yes it is. Attacking others doesn't defend your faults.

Accusative faults - that are as justified as any murder in the world.

Where is the evidence? Don't have any? Not very surprising. Can you be any more predictable?


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 09:39 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 09:37 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 5/20/12 09:33 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
Where is the evidence? Don't have any? Not very surprising. Can you be any more predictable?
I gave more than several SELFISH examples. Your web of lies can't change that.

I fixed that for you. Thank you for - again - pointing out how much more I understand life - as a whole - than you do.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 09:42 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 09:41 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote:
At 5/20/12 09:39 PM, Insanctuary wrote: Thank you for - again - pointing out how much more I understand life - as a whole - than you do.
Well time to hit the old dusty trail.....

While you are at it, you should uncover all of those skeletons you've buried.


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Murder as a whole does cause more harm then good but killing is subjective. Killing for our safety is subjective killing to avenge is sunjective, killing for the sake of killing isn't.


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At 5/20/12 09:44 PM, II2none wrote: Murder as a whole does cause more harm then good but killing is subjective. Killing for our safety is subjective killing to avenge is sunjective, killing for the sake of killing isn't.

You do realise - you are subjectively stating the subjectivity in each context of killing - yes?

You do realise - when I said killing was never justifiable - I said it through the world's eyes; not mine?


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 10:00 PM Reply

Im gunna feel like a cunt for doing this but

mfw I dont know what subjective means :O


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At 5/20/12 10:00 PM, MrPercie wrote: Im gunna feel like a cunt for doing this but

mfw I dont know what subjective means :O

Subjective (adj.):
Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.


Even the most righteous, logically sound individuals are subject to poor reasoning skills and deluded mindsets.

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At 5/20/12 10:00 PM, MrPercie wrote: Im gunna feel like a cunt for doing this but

mfw I dont know what subjective means :O

Sit down here, and let me explain.

When someone comes up to you and calls you a fag - they are being subjective.

When someone says the cloud looks more like a penis - they are being subjective.

When someone says they are smarter - they might be smarter - but it could also be subjectivity in general terms. They can't be better than you at everything - right?

When you make posts like ''You don't know what subjectivity is'' - or imply it in any clever way - you are being a subjective fuck.

When someone stabs you - that is not subjective.

When someone farts and you hate the smell - that is not subjective.

When you stomp on someone's art piece - that is not subjective by action; but subjective for why it lead to the action.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 10:08 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 10:00 PM, MrPercie wrote: I dont know what subjective means :O

Objective: Based on facts.

Subjective: Based on personal opinion.

Example: Right/wrong or justice/vengeance are subjective ways to describe the death penalty.

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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 10:12 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 09:59 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
You do realise - you are subjectively stating the subjectivity in each context of killing - yes?

Yeah.


You do realise - when I said killing was never justifiable - I said it through the world's eyes; not mine?

I don't understand what that means.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 10:16 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 10:07 PM, AnonymousOfCali wrote: when you have a set of morals, those are subjective

Attempting to validate killing is a moral stance. Which goes against your stance that morals don't exist - hypocrite.

Attempting to validate your selfish reasons for killing is sheer stupidity.


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Response to Is Killing Subjective? May. 20th, 2012 @ 10:18 PM Reply

At 5/20/12 07:46 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
At 5/20/12 07:41 PM, SolidToad wrote:

So you're NGMAN7 now? Yeah, speaking in RANDOM CAPS is GOOD for your SOUL. I am a PHILOSOPHER and I can LOLCAPS words to seem like I'M MAKING a POINT.
It is called EMPHASIZING.

And I make HELL of a POINT.

I'm sure EMPHASIZING is done with ITALICS. I mean COME on, there's a HONKING big BUTTON above your text BOX that says EMPHASIS.


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