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During a live TV panel discussion, Golden Dawn MP throws water in the face of a female Radical-Left MP and then slaps another female MP from the Communist party in the face several times. Which is totally weird, because you would never expect that kind of behavior from a Neo-Nazi.

Video.

Anyone here understand Greek? I'd love to know what they were all saying before things got out of hand.

Just an FYI for all of you, Zultra isn't from Greece, Zultra is from Britain. I know this because he was the same guy who a couple months back started spouting the same far right ideology about how "Asians countries for Asians, African countries for Africans, Muslim countries for Muslims white countries for everyone else"f and how the IRA are "Marxist baby killers".

At 6/7/12 05:59 PM, Warforger wrote: Just an FYI for all of you, Zultra isn't from Greece, Zultra is from Britain.

This.You OP don't even fucking dare say that.Greece is in a totally fucked up situation,I agree.But this doesn't mean we are going to become the first country which gives power to those retards neonazis.

Golden dawn? You mean the nazi party that got 12% of their parliament? I could care less about Greek politics, but even I have heard of these nut jobs. What is crazier is how many of them were voted into parliament. But when people are despairing, they will run to whoever has an answer. Leftist revolutionaries know this better than anyone

The fact that the two supporters that BBC interviewed say they could care less about violence towards imigrants, then accused them of having diseases and accused them of raping and hurting their people makes me a little on edge at just how much hate Golden Dawn is dishing out.

Lets not forget the grand scapegoat of the nazi party.

At 6/19/12 03:06 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: greece just elected a conservitive government outing the bailout Left and keeping the Euro. so the Eu exonomy is still safe for now

it unequivocally is not. all this means is that greece is governed by people of the same political/economic mold running the IMF and the ECB, which means they'll totally be on board for even more austerity cuts, which will do absolutely nothing except further destroy the country, and then we have other countries experiencing a crisis as well (the rest of the PIIGS, especially spain, who's bond yield are already over the critical rate of 7%). this is far from over.

At 6/19/12 10:20 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: If the Bailout left had won and ditched the euro, the Rest of the EU would be in trouble. the problem of using one currency and not under one government or using smart policies towards the EUs economic policies.

this doesnt come down to "if the left this would have happened" or "if the right won this would have happened" because the end game is still an unknown and events are still playing out. the rest of the EU is still in trouble, regardless of your partisanship. there is still a very real possibility of greece defaulting somewhere down the road and who knows what chain reaction this will set off if spain is the next country to catch fire. i personally dont think it even matters at this point for greece; of course i'm not a soothsayer and i wont pretend like i know what will happen in the future but i really think the austerity measures implemented within the PIIGS is just irreparable at this point. iceland inflated out of their crisis and they are doing quite well, greece cant do that because they're on the euro. they should never have joined in the first place.

At 6/19/12 03:06 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: greece just elected a conservitive government outing the bailout Left and keeping the Euro. so the Eu exonomy is still safe for now

I know because right wingers always know how to fix an economy and left wingers always mess it up. I mean when Left wing legend George HW Bush left office the economy was in recession so when good ol' right wing legend Bill Clinton took over it got right back up. Oh and the Great Depression! The good ol' Right winger Hoover certainly fixed the economy there!

the really funny thing about the Golden Dawn is that they are just leftists with xenophobia.

At 6/22/12 02:33 PM, Warforger wrote:

I know because right wingers always know how to fix an economy and left wingers always mess it up. I mean when Left wing legend George HW Bush left office the economy was in recession so when good ol' right wing legend Bill Clinton took over it got right back up. Oh and the Great Depression! The good ol' Right winger Hoover certainly fixed the economy there!

So did FDR!

Oh wait, he was elected 4 times and the economy didnt really recover until after his death....

Or Obama, where the average length of a recession is 1-2 years... oh wait, we're abou to go on to the 4th year with zero results.

I also like how you pretend Clinton (in '92) brought us out of a severe recession that didnt exist when he took office.

Just face it: Left wing economic policies always fail, regardless of whether or not they're carried out by left-wingers or right-wingers.

lolz

At 6/23/12 06:09 PM, Memorize wrote: So did FDR!

Oh wait, he was elected 4 times and the economy didnt really recover until after his death....

The Great Depression officially ended in March 1933, one year after Roosevelt was elected. There was another recession that lasted from May 1937 to June 1938, and from then there was a 6 year 8 month period of growth until there was a minor post-war recession in 1945 that lasted for 8 months.

Or Obama, where the average length of a recession is 1-2 years... oh wait, we're abou to go on to the 4th year with zero results.

The recession officially ended in June 2009. There has been positive economic growth ever since.

I also like how you pretend Clinton (in '92) brought us out of a severe recession that didnt exist when he took office.

Fun fact: Clinton oversaw the longest period of economic growth in American history.

Just face it: Left wing economic policies always fail, regardless of whether or not they're carried out by left-wingers or right-wingers.

Define left wing economic policy.

At 6/19/12 02:33 AM, ExecutiveCube wrote: The fact that the two supporters that BBC interviewed say they could care less about violence towards imigrants, then accused them of having diseases and accused them of raping and hurting their people makes me a little on edge at just how much hate Golden Dawn is dishing out.

Immigrants don't rape people! Sweden became the rape capital of europe overnight because teh native swedish male population all just spontaneously decided to start raping women all of a sudden.

Lets not forget the grand scapegoat of the nazi party.

jews, which has absolutely nothing to do with golden dawn's actions or philosophy

At 6/23/12 07:04 PM, Angry-Hatter wrote: The Great Depression officially ended in March 1933, one year after Roosevelt was elected. There was another recession that lasted from May 1937 to June 1938, and from then there was a 6 year 8 month period of growth until there was a minor post-war recession in 1945 that lasted for 8 months.
The recession officially ended in June 2009.

Well if the government says the depression is over I guess the depression is over.

There has been positive economic growth ever since.

Printing money does not a recovery make

Fun fact: Clinton oversaw the longest period of economic growth in American history.

Otherwise known as the 'dot-com bubble'. What an acheivement.

At 6/25/12 08:52 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 6/19/12 02:33 AM, ExecutiveCube wrote: The fact that the two supporters that BBC interviewed say they could care less about violence towards imigrants, then accused them of having diseases and accused them of raping and hurting their people makes me a little on edge at just how much hate Golden Dawn is dishing out.

Immigrants don't rape people! Sweden became the rape capital of europe overnight because teh native swedish male population all just spontaneously decided to start raping women all of a sudden.

Sadist, I like your posts, but plz dont tell me you sympathize with these nazis.

You and I both know we need a steady stream of immigrants to keep the liberty tree healthy. Natives of a country grow complacent with their rights, and grow lazy along with it. Thus they dont keep an eye on hooligans who try to steal them.

But immigrants? They "just get it" when it comes to freedom. Whatever hell hole country they escape, they are just happy to be able to drink a beer and walk across the street. They keep us in line, show us how good we have it.

At 6/23/12 06:09 PM, Memorize wrote: So did FDR!

Oh wait, he was elected 4 times and the economy didnt really recover until after his death....

Ah but the economy was recovering under his administration, sure it didn't get back until the US attained the supreme technology and production in the world after WWII, but otherwise the economy was making a comeback under him. Hence why he was elected 4 times.

Just face it: Left wing economic policies always fail, regardless of whether or not they're carried out by left-wingers or right-wingers.

lolz

If that were the case then Left Wing economists wouldn't exist nor would left wingers in general. Now the Austrian school of thought has only made a small comeback recently, it's idea's have been unpopular for a loooong time for good reason.

Overall however no single school of economics works 100% of the time, different times and conditions require different policies, this was the main idea behind Keynesian economics and why they became so popular for a time, even then the economy is so complicated you practically mock the entire field of economics by acting like it's so simple. Reagan applied many of the same ideas Hoover did but under him the economy boomed whereas under Hoover it got into critical levels, this was mainly because under Hoover the economy was so poorly diversified, it was focused in Construction and Automobiles after all, when those two industries got hit the other industries such as chemicals were not developed enough and thus the whole economy came crashing down. Under Reagan though OPEC was weakened tremendously, the 70's energy shortage resulted in businesses that were more efficient and the Federal Reserve Policies of Ford and Carter began to pay off, thus an economic boom came into the 80's (which Reagan thought would be a great time to increase spending and cut taxes, thanks Reagan!).

Since you want to forget how horrible Laisezz-faire economics were back in the late 1800's (oh shit a recession, let's drop everyone's wages by 50%, then in the economic boom raise them 2%!) they're not appropriate all the time.

At 6/25/12 08:57 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 6/23/12 07:04 PM, Angry-Hatter wrote:

There has been positive economic growth ever since.

Printing money does not a recovery make

Actually it depends, Iceland just did it and it's out of its recession. Germany did it in the 30's and that didn't end up well.

Fun fact: Clinton oversaw the longest period of economic growth in American history.

Otherwise known as the 'dot-com bubble'. What an acheivement.

Exactly, it had nothing to do with him and was all due to giving business freedom.

:Golden Dawn - Greece's only hope.
Yeah - if they take over Germany's government perhaps. Not Greece's, though.

:They also feed the homeless, They run safety patrols
And stab and beat poor immigrants on the streets, as well as legal greek citizens just because they don't share their views.

:When you start your topic like that, nobody will ever take you seriously
^ this

:Golden Dawn is a neo-Nazi group. They have a goal of eliminating immigrants, both legal and illegal, and particularly among the Muslim community. They also want land mines across the border between Greece and Turkey.

Support for them is dangerous. If they are allowed to gain power, they could eventually shift into a Fourth Reich, a regime designed for mass extermination of undesirables.
^ and this

:but again, democracy would never do this! it has never and will never elect dictators!

this is TOTALLY not an example of an old trend that we have seen in the past with Democracy!
^ and this. It's not unnoticeable that the circumstances that got our friend, Adolf, to power were exactly the same: high unemployment, global crisis, lousy economy, focusing intolerance to foreigners, exhausted workers' class (the NaZi -were- a workers' party, after all). I hate History repeating itself.

:there are already calls for Golden Dawn to be banned, and that says it all.
Yes, it does. It says it all to anyone BUT the GD.

:But which people they will mass kill? The Macedonians.
Slavomacedonians you mean. "Macedonians" involves greeks in its most part.

:We're talking about Greece and you can't remember Ioannis Metaxas?
Be fair, the only reasons even Greeks remember Metaxas is the word "No" and a brandy.

:Golden dawn? You mean the nazi party that got 12% of their parliament?
Um. 7. They got 7%. I don't know who and how "doubled" it to reach "12%" but they got 7% - and it was enough to be an outrage.

:greece just elected a conservitive government outing the bailout Left and keeping the Euro. so the Eu exonomy is still safe for now
Actually, what it elected (under firm pressures from EU & co) is the same two parties that have been ruling for the past 40 years (and are responsible for this situation). They were not "the only ones that wanted to keep the Euro", about 75% of the people want that. They were just the only ones that wanted to uphold Merkel's batshit stupid policies. As for the "radical left", believe me, they are neither radical nor left. Just like PASOK aren't socialists. They just label themselves that.

:I know because right wingers always know how to fix an economy and left wingers always mess it up.
Yeah, I mean look at Sweden and Denmark's messed up economies! Right? To get something straight: Left means full government control (think USSR). Right means zero government control. The current "left" and "right" have nothing to do with it. If anything, some "left" is central and most of the "right" are completely left. Fascism and Nazism, both tagged "far right" are utterly left - full government control.

:the really funny thing about the Golden Dawn is that they are just leftists with xenophobia.
^ this

:Immigrants don't rape people!
Oh, they do. We call that "individual liability". Because natives do too. People do. But being an immigrant doesn't -make- you a rapist. There's a big difference in "Immigrants rape people" when it means that some immigrants do and when it means that they all do -because- they are immigrants. The former is stating a fact. The latter is bigotry.

Long story short, if Germany's politics don't change course 180 degrees, expect a lot of unpleasantness - and not just because of parties like GD that gather up and harvest anger and rage.

Anyone here understand Greek? I'd love to know what they were all saying before things got out of hand.

The "radical left" (which is neither radical nor left, as I mentioned above) told the GD member that GD would take the country 500 years back.