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At 6/6/12 02:39 PM, Flowers10 wrote: This thread lack nude men!
Not for long!
The art contest is over now. Cheers for the submissions guys, we had some great submissions and a reasonable turnout for the flood! A fair few of you had a go at practising anatomy, or painting something that you'd never dream of creating normally due to the content, and I think you guys are real brave for doing that. With any luck it'll help you on your way for developing great pics.
Review contest is still on! The deadline is 11:59pm EST on the 8th of June 2012, and there's a few entries that could do with some guidance.
If I had to give a little suggestion to a decent review, it's to give guys a wee ego boost for the effort they've put in, but also some criticism in pics that may provide some guidance on future pics.
Orn and I will be making our picks for the art and review contest after Saturday, and will aim to announce the results in the following few days, as always.
I'll prolly review all of them by the 8th, tho right now the reviews are pretty much half crap. We really could use at least a few review guidelines in the contest thread next time, cuz it's apparent that most of the people competing for the review award haven't actually critiqued anything until there was 40 dollars up for grabs. I know I'm being mean, but knowing how to critique art is just as much a part of this competition as creating it. On a side note, I asked for clarification on Big Jonny's review of my submission and he gave it through PM. Including the clarification, his review was probably the most useful one I'd gotten as it was the only one that addressed a problem and offered a solution. Whereas others were ambiguous about the problems and offered no solutions.
Remember that when reviewing, folks: if you address a problem, offer a solution.
Overall, I was really impressed by the turnout and the pieces everyone created. I don't think I'll end up giving scores lower than a 3 in the long run. Every piece shows some degree of promise and effort. I mean it's obvious that some took this competition more seriously than others. But more power to the people who did, as they ended up creating more polished work. Right now I'm debating whether to vote for Orange or Flowers.
An, excuse, the double post, but I rescind my first point of criticism on Ultimamasher's piece. I looked at it again in the morning and realized the knee wasn't turned out as far as I had initially thought. Just putting it out there that it's actually quite okay. too bad you can't edit reviews.
I just wanted to point out that there are a few pieces that are in the contest that haven't been posted in this thread yet, so to make things simpler, I'll leave a list of all submissions.
I've been practicing anatomy for the past months so this M&A thing was totally up my alley. Inspirited by roman/greek art but...
Line drawn with pencil and then coloured with paint and uploaded to a computer for some light editing. Enjoy!
Sorry for the late entry. I had work until 1 AM last night, so I missed the flood deadline by a longshot.
Saw the M&A competition and figured I'd throw my hat in the ring. It's not perfect but I'm okay with it.
MAAM checklist: Penis; check Tits; check Vagina; check Microphilic Tentacle Girl; che-wait what? Looks like the Glaucus Atla...
This is my entry for the M&A contest. I have no chance in hell of winning but, It's made me draw something different so in a ...
For M&A Monday. As usual the camera butchered the picture. Size: 8 x 10 inches Media: Pencil (4h-3b) Surface: Drawing Panel
My piece for the M&A flood. Hope you all enjoy it! Sorry on the rushed shading job on the girl on the right, but I was seri...
At 6/6/12 05:58 PM, GokuVegetaGogetta wrote: I so sorry, it's just how I feel. I WANTED TO SEE THIS PIECE AS ARTISTIC AND "OOH LA LA" LIKE BUT NO, THANK YOU BRAIN.
Haha! Someone else said something along those lines as well :P I didn't even notice it when i was making it.
I think i'm late and probably won't be included in the contest but alls good, here is mine, was fun!
At 6/8/12 03:58 AM, G-F-D wrote: I think i'm late and probably won't be included in the contest but alls good, here is mine, was fun!
Did you actually draw that? Because it looks more like a photo that was run through a filter....
At 6/8/12 09:43 AM, Flowers10 wrote:At 6/8/12 08:58 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Did you actually draw that? Because it looks more like a photo that was run through a filter....yep looks like adobe illustrator live trace.
At 6/8/12 11:11 AM, G-F-D wrote: yeppp
Well, you really didn't do anything then.
All you did was press a few buttons and the computer made the image for you.
No effort involved, no work done.
At 6/8/12 12:06 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:At 6/8/12 11:11 AM, G-F-D wrote: yepppAlso, works of that nature are not allowed in the Art Portal because it's not your work.
Well someone got a little butt hurt ;p i think it did take a little more than just 2-3 buttons...
To me, if it looks good, no matter how long it took, or what way it was done, then it's all good.
At 6/10/12 12:37 PM, G-F-D wrote: To me, if it looks good, no matter how long it took, or what way it was done, then it's all good.
your always entitled to your own opinion
MAAM RESULTS INCOMING
Ornery's going to prepare some statements on why we come up with our choices on the winners,
while I thought it would be a good idea to highlight some reviews that caught our eye, to give an idea of what (in our opinion) makes a decent art review. 'Specially given the risquÃ© subject.
Generally, the decent reviews and reviewers did a few of the following things:
- Comment on the anatomy on the pic, whether it be successful or errors.
- If there are errors, pinpoint them and suggest corrections. Sometimes it helps to provide a reference, such as "the forearm is twice as thick as the waist" or "it is impossible to arc your back in that way" to send your message to the artist effectively.
- Comment on what you enjoy, such as the composition, colour or features that capture your heart. Artists will get a kick out of this, either because they've accomplished something they were attempting in the image, or they have produced a happy little mistake.
- Remember that your critique will either fix minor errors in the image, or provide food for thought in future paintings.
- Lastly, you don't have to tear apart a pic to be helpful. Artists need encouragement to keep fighting and improve. Sometimes they don't need to know the 20+ things wrong with it, but that there is somebody out there who'll support them.
TurkeyOAS (00:33:36): and that's it
Here's a few reviews which Orn and I thought were decent examples. While the winners are in this list, I decided to omit the names for some reason.
These guys will each be winning their choice of $40 worth of items from the NG store:
These guys will each be winning their choice of $20 worth of items from the NG store:
Congrats guys! I'll shoot off some PMs in a while to work out what you want, and where to ship it.
This was a hell of a contest to judge. Nice turnout and plenty of excellent submissions. But ultimately what decided the winners was who best followed the contest idea of 'tasteful anatomically correct nudes'.
Flowers was an obvious choice despite having a few anatomical issues. You can definitely see he was really trying to get the human figure down, and with little to no references apparently to boot (although maybe using a reference would have helped he correct a few wacky mistakes). The skinless look was a bit disconcerting but in the end we both felt that this one best suited what we wanted out of this round of the contest.
Ultimamasher went a slightly different route and even though his character wasnt exactly human, it still held close enough within the anatomy of one and had an interesting color and composition to go along with it. Again not anatomically perfect but I applaud his take on something that I'm sure could have easily deteriorated into an over-exaggerted fap bait anthro creature that this contest was trying to avoid.
A few other pieces worth mentioning were Aigis and Cypress who had adequate anatomy but we felt just didn't strike the same note as the winners did with us.
Ashmans piece was beautiful and was hard to not give a prize to, but too much debate about whether it was traced or not ended up making that decision for us.
Hyptosis had an excellent looking piece, but the anatomy was just so hysterical (particularly that back bend) that it didnt quite suit what we were aiming for.
Lovingthedark's piece while probably one of the most anatomically correct pieces was a bit messy and rushed looking, polish up next time lady :P
There were lots of excellent reviews, particularly on some of the less visually strong pieces. It was a refreshing change to see some low scoring reviews actually be some of the better more useful ones that were out to point out where the artist fell flat rather than just chastise them for being incompetent.
Cypress was a clear winner for his overall reviews, although the list format was a bit tiresome on some of the reviews.
Little-Eise did a great job of not only saying what a piece needed to do to be better, but also stuck his own personal reaction into the reviews in a way that would actually be helpful to the artist should they choose to acknowledge it.
Lovingthedark was a contender as well, but we felt the other two did just slightly better.
At 6/13/12 03:00 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Congrats guys! I'll shoot off some PMs in a while to work out what you want, and where to ship it.
Congrats to the artist winners, but everyone got a good anatomy workout out of this.
As for the reviewer winners, nicely done. I'm a bit surprised that Eise won, seeing as he only left 3 reviews, but hey, I'm not a judge. Just seems more like the selected decent reviews were all long stories, nothing wrong with that, but I just feel that a review can be short and concise and still help.
Regardless, congrats again to everyone.
At 6/13/12 03:00 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: ================
Congrats to the winners out there. I was very pleased with what I saw. It was a pretty good turnout. Even got a couple of nice favorites out of the deal.
And good job to not only the review winners, but everyone who reviewed. A much better turnout than I had expected their to be on this part. I know I didn't review anything myself, but that was more by my own design rather than anything else.
I hope events like these will urge many others to participate in both art and reviews in the future.
At 6/13/12 03:23 PM, ornery wrote:
:followed the contest idea of 'tasteful anatomically correct nudes'.
I guess I got disqualified for not following the unstated rule against xenomorphic porn.
Congrats to the winners and everyone who competed! I know I got the chance to meet a lot of other artists who I'm looking forward to seeing stuff from in the future.
Congrats to my fellow winners, Flowers, Cypress and Eise as well as everyone who competed.
Also, thank you everyone who sent in critique. They were really helpful and pointed out alot of things I overlooked.
Last but not least, thank you TurkeyOnAStick and Ornery for giving me yo moneh.
I'm a strong, Independent hentai artist who don't need no man in my life.
Yo I don't have a pay pal or anything, so can I just ask that whatever I won be sent to a charity of your choice. I'm kind of a dumbass for entering a competition without any means of claiming the rewards.
At 6/14/12 05:50 AM, CypressDahlia wrote: Yo I don't have a pay pal or anything, so can I just ask that whatever I won be sent to a charity of your choice. I'm kind of a dumbass for entering a competition without any means of claiming the rewards.
The prize isn't cash, it's store credit.
When can we do this again?
At 6/13/12 03:23 PM, ornery wrote: Lovingthedark's piece while probably one of the most anatomically correct pieces was a bit messy and rushed looking, polish up next time lady :P
Aye aye, cap'n! Still working on it.
At 6/13/12 10:42 PM, DeliciousOrange wrote: stuff
I'm pretty sure it's not that they mind xenomorphic porn so much as it is that there is no right anatomy to judge you against.
I wouldn't call that an unstated rule- when the point of a contest is to promote anatomical accuracy, there's no reason to think made-up anatomy would be allowed.
At 6/14/12 10:31 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:At 6/14/12 05:50 AM, CypressDahlia wrote: Yo I don't have a pay pal or anything....The prize isn't cash, it's store credit.
The prize isn't store credit, it's store items delivered to you.
At 6/14/12 07:30 PM, J-qb wrote:At 6/14/12 10:31 AM, big-jonny-13 wrote:The prize isn't store credit, it's store items delivered to you.At 6/14/12 05:50 AM, CypressDahlia wrote: Yo I don't have a pay pal or anything....The prize isn't cash, it's store credit.
Good work everyone, grats to the winners!