At 5/13/12 01:09 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote:
I disagree. Communicating with some people is like communicating with a child. Does that make me arrogant?
Of course some people will never agree with you, and some people can be bigoted, but you can't generalize everyone like that. In as a speaker you must define your audience and gear your speech and words to them.
:That is your choice. Does not disregard the fact that this is true. It isn't always the speaker's fault either.
I never said it wasn't. you are confusing a speaker with a talker. a speaker has a target audience, a purpose, and directs his words and speech to a target like an archer does an arrow, a talker just talks to a general mass of people. This is why I recommended a composition class, it also teaches you what a speaker is, and how to define your audience, and purpose.
I have every right to improve my communication while saying that others aren't able to grasp my abstract philosophy due to a world that didn't teach them how to manifest the abstract imagery of their minds. So... Sorry if that makes me sound arrogant,
It only makes you arrogant when you solely blame the audience. If you can accept that you as a speaker could just be wrong and foolish, and if you can accept the possibility that your ideas are crap, then you aren't arrogant.
but at the least I do not go out there calling everyone stupid and acting like I am smarter than everyone. Go ahead and throw that term around all you may want. You are only going back on your practice of clear communication, by accusing me of being arrogant without assessing what I said with closer speculation.
I wasn't calling you arrogant, just your idea. I don't know you outside of some internet account/alt. I also never intended to make you think I'm personally attacking you.
I personally find those types of personal attacks childish.
I feel as though you are taking this personally,
I'm not taking this personally, frankly I don't care what you think. I only want to get my point in.
you only say what you did because I offended you personally and made you feel like I think I am better than you all,
I'm never really offended, I'm just calling out absurdities I see in your philosophy.
My logic is not exactly the same as today's society's logic. : )
Logic isn't like that.
John Venn defined Logic as (And I'm paraphrasing, too lazy to get get the book and find the page) the language which communicates, and connects external facts and data with human understanding.
Logic is a language, like programming.
saying "My logic is not exactly the same as today's society's logic." would be like saying Your C++ is different from my C++.
Although what one can make with this language, and how well one can use it varies greatly, the language is one in the same, and it exist independently.